Could we see Top 5 classes?

[Ewooc]

I would say coming off a 4-8 year. We all have to be very happy with the class Frost was able to put together. We are the only school coming off of a 4-8 year that has a top 20 class. Tenn ,USC, Fl st are the only ones coming off 5-7 and in top 20. All others were 6+. Most 9 wins or more.
My question is if we can put together a good season next year, say that 9 or 10 win mark. Would that pull us in a top 10 class next year? Looking even further down the road. If success builds does it create a domino effect for recruiting, no matter the school or location? Could we consistently see top 5 classes down the road if this thing gets rolling? Or does our lack of local talent hurt us.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

I would say coming off a 4-8 year. We all have to be very happy with the class Frost was able to put together. We are the only school coming off of a 4-8 year that has a top 20 class. Tenn ,USC, Fl st are the only ones coming off 5-7 and in top 20. All others were 6+. Most 9 wins or more.
My question is if we can put together a good season next year, say that 9 or 10 win mark. Would that pull us in a top 10 class next year? Looking even further down the road. If success builds does it create a domino effect for recruiting, no matter the school or location? Could we consistently see top 5 classes down the road if this thing gets rolling? Or does our lack of local talent hurt us.

It will be tough for us to see Top 10 classes consistently, in my opinion.

To get top 10 you are going to have to have a 2-3 5 star players in a class. That will be tough to do.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

I think you could but a lot of stuff would have to fall into place.

1. There would need to be 1 or 2 five star kids that are very close to Lincoln, geographically speaking.

2. There would need to be major recruiting down by the players in that class.

3. You might need some luck with a package deal.

 

[SnohomishRed]

I would say coming off a 4-8 year. We all have to be very happy with the class Frost was able to put together. We are the only school coming off of a 4-8 year that has a top 20 class. Tenn ,USC, Fl st are the only ones coming off 5-7 and in top 20. All others were 6+. Most 9 wins or more.
My question is if we can put together a good season next year, say that 9 or 10 win mark. Would that pull us in a top 10 class next year? Looking even further down the road. If success builds does it create a domino effect for recruiting, no matter the school or location? Could we consistently see top 5 classes down the road if this thing gets rolling? Or does our lack of local talent hurt us.

IMO yes - too much is made of the location problems yet with technology the recruiting world has shrunk imo - We saw this year what kids want and what a driven charismatic young coach can do. Now if we start winning and beating the tougher teams things just get easier

 

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

I would say coming off a 4-8 year. We all have to be very happy with the class Frost was able to put together. We are the only school coming off of a 4-8 year that has a top 20 class. Tenn ,USC, Fl st are the only ones coming off 5-7 and in top 20. All others were 6+. Most 9 wins or more.
My question is if we can put together a good season next year, say that 9 or 10 win mark. Would that pull us in a top 10 class next year? Looking even further down the road. If success builds does it create a domino effect for recruiting, no matter the school or location? Could we consistently see top 5 classes down the road if this thing gets rolling? Or does our lack of local talent hurt us.

Isn't ole Barnstache on that staff?

 

[marlo81]

I would say coming off a 4-8 year. We all have to be very happy with the class Frost was able to put together. We are the only school coming off of a 4-8 year that has a top 20 class. Tenn ,USC, Fl st are the only ones coming off 5-7 and in top 20. All others were 6+. Most 9 wins or more.
My question is if we can put together a good season next year, say that 9 or 10 win mark. Would that pull us in a top 10 class next year? Looking even further down the road. If success builds does it create a domino effect for recruiting, no matter the school or location? Could we consistently see top 5 classes down the road if this thing gets rolling? Or does our lack of local talent hurt us.

In my opinion, yes. If the next three years you see development, winning, and consistency with same coaches I could see a top 5-7 class by 2021-2022. I think it's easier to grab a couple of 5 star skill position players after an established relationship and proof that it works at Nebraska. I think after success you will see more interest in 5 star QB's, APB, DUCK R type players. I also think that Midwest recruiting will be perceived differently by then if the local talent that is recruited produce well on the field. It will change the perception of the instate talent so you will see local players get ranked a little higher than in the past.

 

[TheBeav815]

I don't see why it's impossible. I wouldn't expect it on an annual basis, but to be around the Top 10 mark consistently and jump up toward that Top 5 once in a while seems reasonable if you are in fact a championship program.

 

[DudznSudz]

I would say it is entirely possible to land Top 10 classes with this staff and with Frost as our head coach, so long as we're consistently winning 9-10 games a year, and, most especially, beating Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, and other marquee matchups regularly.

Frost's offense sells itself, and we'll be decent to sometimes good on defense.

As far as the rankings go, I'm completely fine with consistent Top 20 classes. Every few years, I would imagine us landing in the Top 10. Top 5? That would have to be, as was previously stated, a lucky year where we land more than 1 5 star player AND get a package deal on a few 4 stars and have a great crop of 4 stars interested in the program.

I agree that "recruiting grounds" are a little less relevant now, with communication technology being what it is, and the fact that almost all power 5 games are televised now. That only helps us!

The big thing is, start putting some serious ***-whompings on good teams. This staff can recruit, clearly, and develop talent, clearly. We already have a dusty but still marquee name, and plenty of resources.

The future looks great, in my opinion!

 

[Dicky Broseph]

YES , we can pull top 10 classes but maybe not every year. Our geographical location is working against us. I believe classes like this year are good enough to compete for a national championship. Classes around 12-15 will be just fine. 3 teams currently in the top 10 only have 1 5 star..so its a matter of how they rank your guys, and grabbing 1 guy they value highly. We are basically on track with our 4 star guys.
For instance..Xavier Betts is 44 ranked prospect in the country 8th wr... 5 star wilson 22nd(3rd ranked wr)..if betts can make a push he could become a 5 star. Corcoran has a chance as well. You just need 1 to make a top 10 push.

 

[vs540husker]

Top 15 should be every year.
Top 10 should be expected if Nebraska is consistently finishing with ~11 wins or more.
Top 5 to me would be very rare unless it just happens to be a great year on the field and we luck into the right recruits.
Top 5 consistently won't happen unless we're greasing some palms.

 

[DudznSudz]

Top 15 should be every year.
Top 10 should be expected if Nebraska is consistently finishing with ~11 wins or more.
Top 5 to me would be very rare unless it just happens to be a great year on the field and we luck into the right recruits.
Top 5 consistently won't happen unless we're greasing some palms.

Sounds about right, but I would allow that most years top 20 is normal and fine, not always top 15.

However that is all things being equal now. If we start kicking asses on the field, that bumps up.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

The thing some of you aren't taking into account is that Frost and staff have been very consistent in getting the right fit. In some cases, some of those elite 5 stars won't be a cultural fit. At which point you are reducing your selection pool by that number. When you reduce the selection pool, you have to increase your hit %. If you have 50, you can hit on 2 or 3, and be at like 4% to 6% ratio. If you reduce that pool to 25 that are a fit, in order to get to 2 or 3 you have to hit on closer to 10%.

 

[DudznSudz]

The thing some of you aren't taking into account is that Frost and staff have been very consistent in getting the right fit. In some cases, some of those elite 5 stars won't be a cultural fit. At which point you are reducing your selection pool by that number. When you reduce the selection pool, you have to increase your hit %. If you have 50, you can hit on 2 or 3, and be at like 4% to 6% ratio. If you reduce that pool to 25 that are a fit, in order to get to 2 or 3 you have to hit on closer to 10%.

Good point as always!

 

[Headcard]

I think we will see consistent too 15 classes. With improved player development and roster management, the talent improvement should be huge.

 

[TarheelHuskerFan_rivals]

Once we are consistently a top 15 team, i think so.
Our coaching staff is going to make this a FUN team to be on. When you're winning and having fun, people want to join.
And it'll put a positive light on the fan support in Lincoln.

 

[big red23]

I honestly think Frost and Co feel the higher rated the recruit is, the bigger their ego is. I feel pretty confident in saying he continues to just recruit the same level of players with finding level headed good players

 

[TheBeav815]

The thing some of you aren't taking into account is that Frost and staff have been very consistent in getting the right fit. In some cases, some of those elite 5 stars won't be a cultural fit. At which point you are reducing your selection pool by that number. When you reduce the selection pool, you have to increase your hit %. If you have 50, you can hit on 2 or 3, and be at like 4% to 6% ratio. If you reduce that pool to 25 that are a fit, in order to get to 2 or 3 you have to hit on closer to 10%.

I'm curious to see to what extent that line of "we want guys who fit what we wanna do" stays in play as they realize they can get double-digit blue chip guys in a class at NU.

I get the need to sell that whole underdog line at UCF where you were never going to ink a Top-15 class. I have a hard time imagining that they're going to ignore 5* kids if they genuinely want to play for NU unless there are serious red flags.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

I'm curious to see to what extent that line of "we want guys who fit what we wanna do" stays in play as they realize they can get double-digit blue chip guys in a class at NU.

I get the need to sell that whole underdog line at UCF where you were never going to ink a Top-15 class. I have a hard time imagining that they're going to ignore 5* kids if they genuinely want to play for NU unless there are serious red flags.

I hear ya. I just don’t think Frost wants to deal with players who don’t fit his style and culture

 

[inWV]

Math is such that on average, recruits are +5.9 4* to be a top 5. Top player bonus points might lower that a bit. To be top 10, NU would need to average mid 4* for the top 20 guys. I think the current recruiting trajectory will produce classes in the teens.

 

[Nebfan]

Simple answer. No

 

[HuskerO58]

I would say it is entirely possible to land Top 10 classes with this staff and with Frost as our head coach, so long as we're consistently winning 9-10 games a year, and, most especially, beating Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, and other marquee matchups regularly.

Frost's offense sells itself, and we'll be decent to sometimes good on defense.

As far as the rankings go, I'm completely fine with consistent Top 20 classes. Every few years, I would imagine us landing in the Top 10. Top 5? That would have to be, as was previously stated, a lucky year where we land more than 1 5 star player AND get a package deal on a few 4 stars and have a great crop of 4 stars interested in the program.

I agree that "recruiting grounds" are a little less relevant now, with communication technology being what it is, and the fact that almost all power 5 games are televised now. That only helps us!

The big thing is, start putting some serious ***-whompings on good teams. This staff can recruit, clearly, and develop talent, clearly. We already have a dusty but still marquee name, and plenty of resources.

The future looks great, in my opinion!

I agree other than just needing to consistently win 9-10 games per year. I think in order to consistently land Top 10 recruiting classes we'll need to consistently finish in the Top 10 during the season. I don't believe Pelini results will land us Top 10 classes. Especially not consistently.