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This sucks, if true.

Devastating.

As much as I loved Frost for flipping Wandale I thought this kid was in the bag.

Jesus Christ. Break out the Xmas bag.

With your infinite knowledge and talent I’m surprised you’re not on staff as lead recruiter yet.
 

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Mo will likely be the lead but if not feature back.
 

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I agree. Washington has potential but he's less Space Cowboy and more Taco Bell right now, the way he likes to "run for the border(sidelines)". We need someone that can hammer the middle. They don't have to be big...one of may favorites was that little back KSU had some years back...weighed about 185 and ran twixt the Tackles like a boss. Sproles?
What? He’s just fine and was a frost. I suppose you want the option back as well
 

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This sucks, if true.

Devastating.

As much as I loved Frost for flipping Wandale I thought this kid was in the bag.

Jesus Christ. Break out the Xmas bag.
 
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timnsun

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This. We can’t depend on AM to make of for any potential lack of a true run threat out of the backfield. Ultimately I would like to see us use him much the way the Chiefs use Mahomes. Yes, call his number on occasion to keep the defense honest and call plays that will net 10 yards or so, but give him an “out” so that he’s not taking a bunch of hits. What should really make him a threat is not just his ability to run, but his ability to avoid pressure, extend plays, and get something done because of his elusiveness. If we use him in that manner, then he’ll have a better chance to avoid injury and still be a huge threat. That’s why Mills is a crucial get for this season. Need some added depth.

Also with AM, we can’t forget, he’s a pretty big guy. He’s bigger than some of our running backs and probably bigger than a few of the other feature backs around the conference, so I think he could be a guy who could give as much as he gets when it comes to hits.
This is assuming we lack a big play threat at RB, which is a bit premature I think. I think Washington will be even better, and we have guys like Miles Jones who will see some playing time, as well as other talented backs (including some incoming freshmen)... if Washington can come in and play after only qualifying way late in the process, what about some of these freshmen who will be here an entire summer?

I guess I’m not ready to sound the alarm just yet.
 

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This is assuming we lack a big play threat at RB, which is a bit premature I think. I think Washington will be even better, and we have guys like Miles Jones who will see some playing time, as well as other talented backs (including some incoming freshmen)... if Washington can come in and play after only qualifying way late in the process, what about some of these freshmen who will be here an entire summer?

I guess I’m not ready to sound the alarm just yet.


This
 

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We don't have anything proven in the backfield right now. Mills was the closest thing to a proven back, so not getting the signature right now does throw some uncertainty on the position next year.

Maurice needs to keep working in the weight room and will be fine down the road, but certainly it would be better with a known upperclassman back there.

Just like Ozigbo this year, and no one saw that coming from him, but we really needed that. I'm def hoping Mills can make it here.
 

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This is assuming we lack a big play threat at RB, which is a bit premature I think. I think Washington will be even better, and we have guys like Miles Jones who will see some playing time, as well as other talented backs (including some incoming freshmen)... if Washington can come in and play after only qualifying way late in the process, what about some of these freshmen who will be here an entire summer?

I guess I’m not ready to sound the alarm just yet.

I do tend to agree. No doubt we have talent and I too think Washington is going to be special. And I’m excited to see what Jones can do. I look at Mills much like Bell last year. Is he a crucial, must get? I would say no, it’s not crucial. Is he needed? Yes. The RB position has depth and talent, but does lack some experience. Washington is essentially the most experienced guy in the room. Would be nice to have another option with significant snaps at the college level.
 
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The RB position has depth and talent, but does lack some experience. Washington is essentially the most experienced guy in the room.

What depth and talent? Oh, you mean Jones who is coming off of surgery and is a speed guy who played very little this year? The reality is the guys that are there now have proven to be paper tigers with injuries and didn't see the field so how does anyone know? The talent you remember is from their glory HS days, not starting in the Frost or any other college system. There are numbers, that is different than proven college talent.
 

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What depth and talent? Oh, you mean Jones who is coming off of surgery and is a speed guy who played very little this year? The reality is the guys that are there now have proven to be paper tigers with injuries and didn't see the field so how does anyone know? The talent you remember is from their glory HS days, not starting in the Frost or any other college system. There are numbers, that is different than proven college talent.

Mo has a ton of talent, but I agree that depth is questionable. Bradley probably won't ever be a meaningful contributor, Washington was slowed by injuries, and the other guys like Miles Jones & Woodhead are more Duck-R guys than they are true RBs.

We need Mills and we need him soon!
 

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Mo has a ton of talent, but I agree that depth is questionable. Bradley probably won't ever be a meaningful contributor, Washington was slowed by injuries, and the other guys like Miles Jones & Woodhead are more Duck-R guys than they are true RBs.

We need Mills and we need him soon!
I'm not ready to give up on Bradley, he showed flashes his freshman year, I understand he was injured this fall, let's see what he can do when he's completely healthy, he very well could be a bust
 

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I'm not ready to give up on Bradley, he showed flashes his freshman year, I understand he was injured this fall, let's see what he can do when he's completely healthy, he very well could be a bust
I agree, but I think what you’re supposed to say is “If Mills doesn’t make it here we will be lucky to go 4-8 again!”

At least that’s what I’m reading between the lines...
 
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I agree, but I think what you’re supposed to say is “If Mills doesn’t make it here we will be lucky to go 4-8 again!”

At least that’s what I’m reading between the lines...

The only real issue is that Bradley, possibly a 210 lb Mazour, is our only hope for a short yardage back fighting for an extra 1-2 yards. I'm confident we have plenty of talent for all other plays. So, Mills would be great but I'm not jumping off over him.
 
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I agree, but I think what you’re supposed to say is “If Mills doesn’t make it here we will be lucky to go 4-8 again!”

At least that’s what I’m reading between the lines...

Well, you're terrible at reading between the lines. Don't be a drama queen, I'm just saying that we don't have a good candidate to do what Oz did for us last year. Mills could change that, but it is pretty urgent that he gets on campus ASAP.
 

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Well, you're terrible at reading between the lines. Don't be a drama queen, I'm just saying that we don't have a good candidate to do what Oz did for us last year. Mills could change that, but it is pretty urgent that he gets on campus ASAP.
Lol, look in the mirror, drama queen... the reality is you don’t know what we have for next year because it’s all unproven. How do you know none of these guys don’t have it? Did ozigbo have it before last year? Who saw that out of him before last year? All I’m saying is that we just might be ok after all. Even if Mills doesn’t make it.

I’m not the one crying wolf here.
 

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What? He’s just fine and was a frost. I suppose you want the option back as well


You think he runs hard between the Tackles? I think he's a good back but he certainly isn't one to get past 1st contact...and he certainly, at this point, will not be mistaken for a short yardage back.
 

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Lol, look in the mirror, drama queen... the reality is you don’t know what we have for next year because it’s all unproven. How do you know none of these guys don’t have it? Did ozigbo have it before last year? Who saw that out of him before last year? All I’m saying is that we just might be ok after all. Even if Mills doesn’t make it.

I’m not the one crying wolf here.

Oh here you go drama queen. You assumed something about my previous post and got all butthurt when you were wrong. Guess you like to ***** for the sake of bitching.

We have seen Bradley play, we have seen Mo play. Are they capable of doing what Oz did last year? Most likely not, at least not right away. As for Woodhead and Miles Jones, do you think they'll fit in more at RB or the Duck-R? They certainly don't seem to fit the profile of an every-down back that can run in between the tackles reliably. If that wasn't a position of need, they wouldn't have gone hard at a JUCO with a similar skillset to what Ozigbo brought to the table.
 

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Lol, look in the mirror, drama queen... the reality is you don’t know what we have for next year because it’s all unproven. How do you know none of these guys don’t have it? Did ozigbo have it before last year? Who saw that out of him before last year? All I’m saying is that we just might be ok after all. Even if Mills doesn’t make it.

I’m not the one crying wolf here.


To be fair to SC here...it seems we are all talking different things...the original issue was Mills was to be the Hammer, getting the tough yards. EVERYONE thought that's what Ziggy was...NOBODY thought him to be the break away guy he was this year. Mo is the break away. We are arguing he certainly is NOT any sort of Hammer for short yardage. I THINK the inference we are making is we may NOT have the durable back we need if Mills doesn't come and that could become an issue, if true.
 
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Oh here you go drama queen. You assumed something about my previous post and got all butthurt when you were wrong. Guess you like to ***** for the sake of bitching.

We have seen Bradley play, we have seen Mo play. Are they capable of doing what Oz did last year? Most likely not, at least not right away. As for Woodhead and Miles Jones, do you think they'll fit in more at RB or the Duck-R? They certainly don't seem to fit the profile of an every-down back that can run in between the tackles reliably. If that wasn't a position of need, they wouldn't have gone hard at a JUCO with a similar skillset to what Ozigbo brought to the table.

Based on Oz previous playing, I didn't think Oz was capable of doing what Oz did last year.
 

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Oh here you go drama queen. You assumed something about my previous post and got all butthurt when you were wrong. Guess you like to ***** for the sake of bitching.

We have seen Bradley play, we have seen Mo play. Are they capable of doing what Oz did last year? Most likely not, at least not right away. As for Woodhead and Miles Jones, do you think they'll fit in more at RB or the Duck-R? They certainly don't seem to fit the profile of an every-down back that can run in between the tackles reliably. If that wasn't a position of need, they wouldn't have gone hard at a JUCO with a similar skillset to what Ozigbo brought to the table.
First off, my post was pretty generic, which is why you didn’t see me quoting you. You assumed it was in response to you, when in fact, it was in response to multiple posters. I only responded when you labeled me a drama queen, lol.

My greater point, which you failed to miss AGAIN, is that Ozigbo surprised us this year because these coaches transformed him. Who saw him busting off multiple 60 yard TD runs? You, Nostradamus? The answer is, no one did.

These coaches know where our holes are and they will adjust accordingly. Or were you disappointed with how the coaches adjusted the RB situation last year?

It would be great to have Mills this next year, but the doom and gloom if he doesn’t show up is unwarranted at this point.
 
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To be fair to SC here...it seems we are all talking different things...the original issue was Mills was to be the Hammer, getting the tough yards. EVERYONE thought that's what Ziggy was...NOBODY thought him to be the break away guy he was this year. Mo is the break away. We are arguing he certainly is NOT any sort of Hammer for short yardage. I THINK the inference we are making is we may NOT have the durable back we need if Mills doesn't come and that could become an issue, if true.
I hear you, and can appreciate that. But again, the coaches did an amazing job transforming Ozigbo. If Mills is a no show, are the coaches gonna just pack it in?

They showed me a lot last year from the RB position, enough to tell me we just might be ok if Mills doesn’t make it. Just my opinion.
 

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First off, my post was pretty generic, which is why you didn’t see me quoting you. You assumed it was in response to you, when in fact, it was in response to multiple posters. I only responded when you labeled me a drama queen, lol.

My greater point, which you failed to miss AGAIN, is that Ozigbo surprised us this year because these coaches transformed him. Who saw him busting off multiple 60 yard TD runs? You, Nostradamus? The answer is, no one did.

These coaches know where our holes are and they will adjust accordingly. Or were you disappointed with how the coaches adjusted the RB situation last year?

It would be great to have Mills this next year, but the doom and gloom if he doesn’t show up is unwarranted at this point.

Again, you are bitching to *****. How in the hell do you even begin to think that I was unhappy with the RB play last year? Ridiculous.
 

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Again, you are bitching to *****. How in the hell do you even begin to think that I was unhappy with the RB play last year? Ridiculous.
Again you are stupid to take it personal. I NEVER QUOTED YOU! You just jumped in all butthurt thinking this was about you.

Lighten up, Francis!
 

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I hear you, and can appreciate that. But again, the coaches did an amazing job transforming Ozigbo. If Mills is a no show, are the coaches gonna just pack it in?

They showed me a lot last year from the RB position, enough to tell me we just might be ok if Mills doesn’t make it. Just my opinion.

Yeah, last year they had Ozigbo in the RB room and did a good job elevating his game. I don't see a similar player (assuming Mills doesn't make it) with similar skills returning. Bradley wasn't impressive in his playing time and there is a reason he didn't see the field last year.
 

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Again you are stupid to take it personal. I NEVER QUOTED YOU! You just jumped in all butthurt thinking this was about you.

Lighten up, Francis!

It doesn't matter if you quoted me, you made up some bs about people being upset with the RB coaches or some crap. You bitched just to ***** and were taking shots at anybody who was concerned about Mills not being signed yet.
 

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Yeah, last year they had Ozigbo in the RB room and did a good job elevating his game. I don't see a similar player (assuming Mills doesn't make it) with similar skills returning. Bradley wasn't impressive in his playing time and there is a reason he didn't see the field last year.
You’re right, there is a reason Bradley didn’t see the playing field last year. He was injured much of the year.

And BTW, I’m not the one bitching in this thread. I am saying let the coaches figure it out. I’ve let others do the bitching.
 

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It doesn't matter if you quoted me, you made up some bs about people being upset with the RB coaches or some crap. You bitched just to ***** and were taking shots at anybody who was concerned about Mills not being signed yet.
Where did I say people were upset with the RB coaches?

After you went off on me, I asked if you weren’t satisfied with the RB coaching. So if you are satisfied with the RB coaching, why all the handwringing in December? If the coaches think we need a battering ram, and we don’t have one, they will find it for the February signing period.
 

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It doesn't matter if you quoted me, you made up some bs about people being upset with the RB coaches or some crap. You bitched just to ***** and were taking shots at anybody who was concerned about Mills not being signed yet.
And you’re complaining about my initial sarcastic comment aren’t you? God forbid that someone would use sarcasm on a message board!!! So sorry, I didn’t know you would take it personally.

My bad. Someone flew off the handle here, but I’m pretty sure it wasn’t me.
 

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1. Zig was not Zig before he was Zig. His serious uptick in play was predicted by few.
2. Mills has shown he can tote it, high probability he would be in the mix for carries.
3. Mo will be the 1 back in 2019.
4. Many think Mo has durability issues, but maybe he’s a work horse next season.
5. Maybe Jaylin becomes Jaylin (see 1)
6. Wandale and Rahmir both are capable of playing right away.
7. AMart will have his carries as well.
So it would be great if Mills makes it, but there will be a lot of competition for the football on the offensive side of the ball. Lot of explosive talent there.
 
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1. Zig was not Zig before he was Zig. His serious uptick in play was predicted by few.
2. Mills has shown he can tote it, high probability he would be in the mix for carries.
3. Mo will be the 1 back in 2019.
4. Many think Mo has durability issues, but maybe he’s a work horse next season.
5. Maybe Jaylin becomes Jaylin (see 1)
6. Wandale and Rahmir both are capable of playing right away.
7. AMart will have his carries as well.
So it would be great if Mills makes it, but there will be a lot of competition for the football on the offensive side of the ball. Lot of explosive talent there.
At the risk of incurring the wrath of SC’Sker, this isn’t what you are supposed to say.

We are sunk if Mills doesn’t make it. Try to follow along.
 

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At the risk of incurring the wrath of SC’Sker, this isn’t what you are supposed to say.

We are sunk if Mills doesn’t make it. Try to follow along.

You are a crybaby *****, for reals. Hope you get a well-deserved lump of coal from Santa.
 

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You are a crybaby *****, for reals. Hope you get a well-deserved lump of coal from Santa.
You make me laugh for real. Complaining because one player might not be coming.

I hope Santa somehow gives you thicker skin. You could use it.
 

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You are a crybaby *****, for reals. Hope you get a well-deserved lump of coal from Santa.
And what exactly am I bitching about? It isn’t the coaches. It’s not the running back room. What am I bitching about? You tell me and I’ll tell you what you are bitching about and then we’ll see who really is bitching.
 

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And what exactly am I bitching about? It isn’t the coaches. It’s not the running back room. What am I bitching about? You tell me and I’ll tell you what you are bitching about and then we’ll see who really is bitching.

Why you so triggered, babygirl?

And you were too much of a coward to quote me directly at first, you had to quote somebody that responded to me so you could ***** about me bc I was concerned about Mills.
 

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Why you so triggered, babygirl?

And you were too much of a coward to quote me directly at first, you had to quote somebody that responded to me so you could ***** about me bc I was concerned about Mills.
Einstein, there were multiple people doom and glooming at the prospect of Mills not coming. Don’t flatter yourself here.

You got out over your skis and have crashed spectacularly. Get over it.

I can’t help it if you are so triggered that one generic post causes you to fire off a drama queen response to me personally. You keep dancing around it so now I am gonna be direct. If Mills doesn’t make it, what will it be like next fall? What is your prediction?

You are sounding like we won’t have an RB without him. Tell me, what do you think will happen next fall, chicken little?
 
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