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SLOHusker

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I get that news organizations have bias but anyone can see that where there is smoke there is fire when it comes to corruption inside the Trump organization. Guilty plea after guilty plea, the daily lying from Trump, the very clear ties to Russia. Stevie Wonder can see the shadiness. There doesn't seem to be any way this doesn't end poorly for those associated with this guy
The Clinton's had Russia-related dealings that were far shadier than anything uncovered by the Mueller investigation (which has been dragged out intentionally to harm Trump). I have yet to hear from a single Trump voter from any state that says they were influenced by fake news (which has always existed btw). People used to take for granted that anything posted online was questionable, and should be taken with skepicism. Now we have search engines and social networks filtering news for us to fit their agenda in the name of protecting the infantile populace from a bad voting decision. I've largely abandoned Facebook because it's tiresome and the conversations are not intelligent, unlike this board.
 

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I get that news organizations have bias but anyone can see that where there is smoke there is fire when it comes to corruption inside the Trump organization. Guilty plea after guilty plea, the daily lying from Trump, the very clear ties to Russia. Stevie Wonder can see the shadiness. There doesn't seem to be any way this doesn't end poorly for those associated with this guy

So the Strzok texts mean smoke and fire as well..

If one side is corrupt then you can bet your *** that the other side is equally corrupt.
 

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I don't necessarily see it as sides..Republican democrat whomever is running the show so be it Just not Trump.. He isn't for the troops, he isn't for the flag, he isn't for anything but himself. He makes actual Republicans look terrible and hopefully he is out of our lives soon
 

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I don't necessarily see it as sides..Republican democrat whomever is running the show so be it Just not Trump.. He isn't for the troops, he isn't for the flag, he isn't for anything but himself. He makes actual Republicans look terrible and hopefully he is out of our lives soon

What has he done to make your life so terrible?

Isn’t for the troops? Based on what?

Isn’t for the flag? Again, based on what?

Isn’t for anything but himself? Why exactly does he donate his presidential earnings to charity? Selfish people don’t do that.
 

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I don't necessarily see it as sides..Republican democrat whomever is running the show so be it Just not Trump.. He isn't for the troops, he isn't for the flag, he isn't for anything but himself. He makes actual Republicans look terrible and hopefully he is out of our lives soon

Agreed on all counts. Been feeling that way for 10 years now.
 

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What has he done to make your life so terrible?

Isn’t for the troops? Based on what?

Isn’t for the flag? Again, based on what?

Isn’t for anything but himself? Why exactly does he donate his presidential earnings to charity? Selfish people don’t do that.
Live your life around people of color and you will see how their lives are affected by his administrations policies .... Dude is a white nationalist that isn't really even up for debate... The flag controversy isn't a controversy he flat out said he is making this stance because it's what his base gets fired up about faux patriotism, hell the idiot couldn't even color it correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...sian-twist-us-president-drawing-children-ohio
As far as his treatment of the troops it's all lip service.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/trump-troops-military-army.html

As a white male I am fully aware of my privilege and realize that it doesnt matter much for me who is the President I just know our country and ALL of the people in it deserve better from a leadership standpoint
 
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I'd like to hear you debate the "white nationalist" theory...I know you said it isn't up for debate but humor me
 

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I'd like to hear you debate the "white nationalist" theory...I know you said it isn't up for debate but humor me
"It isn't up for debate" is what people say when they have no debate. I don't remember Trump being called "racist" until he ran for president.
"People of color" are better off under Trump than they were under Obama...that isn't really even up for debate...
 

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I'd also like to point out that the Chief Editor for The Guardian (your article reference) migrated from The Washington Post and ironically Slate is also owned by The Washington Post and their Deputy Managing Editor is also in charge of the LA Times...Some pretty biased references you choose to read.
 
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I think people see decency in the Bush clan now, and it's refreshing, considering our current President is a scumbag.

Not referring to any of Trump's policies, many of which I agree with. I actually think Trump is making some good, tough decisions.

But he's a scumbag. The Bush's were and are a pretty descent bunch. I think people miss that in politicians nowadays. A little class.
That is why we got him because he’s a All action and the rest just talk a big Game and steel your vote
Yea, I just don't pretend being racist, by definition, is right. And I call you out on it.

There is a segment of the right social agenda that is messed-up in a big way right now.

I'm all for low taxes and tough on borders and free, unbiased trade with intellectual property rights protected. That is all good. Just don't feed me your social agenda that denies global warming, hates on anything deemed socially "immoral" which hearkens back to some sort of 50s Americana utopia. Give me a break.
zGlobal warming is a scam to get your money. And keep the third world counties in poverty in poverty screwing manufacturing for these many countries. And is one of many reasons why the Cartell rape and Dominate in Central America. Trumps Push for industrialization and free trade can Save the Day.
 

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Sure.... The events depicted in the links happened ... Don't know what to tell you . This is just a quick search that turned up a few things . He has always been a bigoted pos but it never shaped policy. The following is just a sample

And besides, other than that time he suggested that Mexican immigrants are mostly rapists; or said he didn’t want people from “******** countries” like Haiti and countries in Africa coming to the United States; or systematically discriminated against African-Americans in his housing developments; or propagated a conspiracy theory about how the first black president wasn’t really an American; or insisted that there were “very fine people”marching with neo-Nazis in Charlottesville; or employed a personal butler who wrote on Facebook that Barack Obama should be lynched; or likened nonwhite immigrants to vermin; or called for banning Muslims from the United States; or encouraged U.S. soldiers to fire on a caravan of Central American women and children at the slightest provocation, what has the president ever done in public to suggest that he is capable of saying such bigoted things in private?
 

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I'm out.. This has veered way off course and it's partially my fault . Night
 

o_Hit

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Sure.... The events depicted in the links happened ... Don't know what to tell you . This is just a quick search that turned up a few things . He has always been a bigoted pos but it never shaped policy. The following is just a sample

And besides, other than that time he suggested that Mexican immigrants are mostly rapists; or said he didn’t want people from “******** countries” like Haiti and countries in Africa coming to the United States; or systematically discriminated against African-Americans in his housing developments; or propagated a conspiracy theory about how the first black president wasn’t really an American; or insisted that there were “very fine people”marching with neo-Nazis in Charlottesville; or employed a personal butler who wrote on Facebook that Barack Obama should be lynched; or likened nonwhite immigrants to vermin; or called for banning Muslims from the United States; or encouraged U.S. soldiers to fire on a caravan of Central American women and children at the slightest provocation, what has the president ever done in public to suggest that he is capable of saying such bigoted things in private?

You watch too much MSNBC. With the amount of times the Guardian has been fact checked and proved to be out right liars, are you really are going to link them in this thread?
 

SilentCommit

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You watch too much MSNBC. With the amount of times the Guardian has been fact checked and proved to be out right liars, are you really are going to link them in this thread?

So you reject what Mwulf posted because....something about MSNBC and the Guardian? This is why we are so divided. It's common knowledge that Trump seized on the birther conspiracy, refused to initially condemn the white supremacists in Charlottesville, and announced his candidacy by announcing Mexico was sending rapists, et. al. Don't use Whataboutism (but Clinton, Obama, etc), and stick to Trump for a second. Are you saying all that sits well with you? If so, just own it.
 
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So you reject what Mwulf posted because....something about MSNBC and the Guardian? This is why we are so divided. It's common knowledge that Trump seized on the birther conspiracy, refused to initially condemn the white supremacists in Charlottesville, and announced his candidacy by announcing Mexico was sending rapists, et. al. Don't use Whataboutism (but Clinton, Obama, etc), and stick to Trump for a second. Are you saying all that sits well with you? If so, just own it.

Trump certainly has an interesting voting base.

And real research used to mean libraries, Lexus Nexus databases, lots of data and research and interviews of very, very smart people.

Today, it's what The Kardashians and Melania Trump say on Twitter.
 

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So you reject what Mwulf posted because....something about MSNBC and the Guardian? This is why we are so divided. It's common knowledge that Trump seized on the birther conspiracy, refused to initially condemn the white supremacists in Charlottesville, and announced his candidacy by announcing Mexico was sending rapists, et. al. Don't use Whataboutism (but Clinton, Obama, etc), and stick to Trump for a second. Are you saying all that sits well with you? If so, just own it.

I fully support President Trump. Deal with it.
 

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Trump certainly has an interesting voting base.

And real research used to mean libraries, Lexus Nexus databases, lots of data and research and interviews of very, very smart people.

Today, it's what The Kardashians and Melania Trump say on Twitter.

Would you say you are more intelligent than people like James Woods or Ben Shapiro?
 

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Live your life around people of color and you will see how their lives are affected by his administrations policies .... Dude is a white nationalist that isn't really even up for debate... The flag controversy isn't a controversy he flat out said he is making this stance because it's what his base gets fired up about faux patriotism, hell the idiot couldn't even color it correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...sian-twist-us-president-drawing-children-ohio
As far as his treatment of the troops it's all lip service.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/trump-troops-military-army.html

As a white male I am fully aware of my privilege and realize that it doesnt matter much for me who is the President I just know our country and ALL of the people in it deserve better from a leadership standpoint

I grew up in north Omaha and still have some family there so spare me the “people of color” garbage because it’s not true. Which policies are responsible here? We should blame Trump for Flint while we’re at it. Black unemployment is at it’s lowest point under Trump but “The Guardian” and “The Slate” wont tell you that considering they’re both left wing media outlets.
 

barney44

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Sure.... The events depicted in the links happened ... Don't know what to tell you . This is just a quick search that turned up a few things . He has always been a bigoted pos but it never shaped policy. The following is just a sample

And besides, other than that time he suggested that Mexican immigrants are mostly rapists; or said he didn’t want people from “******** countries” like Haiti and countries in Africa coming to the United States; or systematically discriminated against African-Americans in his housing developments; or propagated a conspiracy theory about how the first black president wasn’t really an American; or insisted that there were “very fine people”marching with neo-Nazis in Charlottesville; or employed a personal butler who wrote on Facebook that Barack Obama should be lynched; or likened nonwhite immigrants to vermin; or called for banning Muslims from the United States; or encouraged U.S. soldiers to fire on a caravan of Central American women and children at the slightest provocation, what has the president ever done in public to suggest that he is capable of saying such bigoted things in private?

WOW! Liberal news overload...

Should I start with establishment coup attempts here and post a bunch of right wing articles?

There is always two sides to the story, and then theres the truth...
 
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Trump certainly has an interesting voting base.

And real research used to mean libraries, Lexus Nexus databases, lots of data and research and interviews of very, very smart people.

Today, it's what The Kardashians and Melania Trump say on Twitter.

You forgot Hillary Clinton there. You know, the lady who said all black people look alike...
 

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My 401k has sure grown under Trump. If you don't appreciate what the man is doing, send your increases to the Hildabeast, the Bern or Ocasio Cortez Macarena.
 
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What I find interesting is that HuskerFan66's claim that he talked to 2 climatologists is virtually a copy and paste from a post I saw on a site dedicated to a certain author. 66, do you post on a site dedicated to the readers of a certain author and if so, who is that author? Otherwise, I'm highly skeptical.

Now it's your turn to be skeptical. A relative's church in a suburb of Houston has an interesting collection of worshippers, from lower middle class to quite well to do. Two of the well to do types are in senior management in 2 different fossil fuel companies. If you've ever bought gas for a car, chances are you've bought it from these companies. Both men laugh at climate deniers. They both acknowledge that manmade climate change is real and that their companies have known as a scientific fact that it exists for better than a decade. According to these guys they both laugh at the scientific ignorance of those who deny climate change and thank God every day for their existence. It's the deniers who allow them to squeeze every penny from fossil fuels that they can. And they will continue to do so as long as they can, until politicians or a groundswell of the populace force them to do otherwise. In the meantime, it's not all doom and gloom as they are working on all sorts of projects that will allow them to continue as energy providers when climate change forces them to cut back on their fossil fuel profiting. No, not cars that run on water, but other pretty nifty gizmos that they barely hinted at. This will allow them to continue making large profits with hardly a hiccup after the shift, PLUS make them the good guys who, while doubting climate change, were still planning for it just in case, out of the goodness of their collective hearts.
 

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Just want to point out that "man-made" climate change is very real in weather modification programs, quit looking down at your phone and start looking up, those sun dimming programs CNN and a slew of other corrupt MSM organizations dumped on us last week is just conditioning is for accepting what they already have been doing...don't take my word for it, study the skies for a few months.
 
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