Reap the whirlwind

[DudznSudz]

Unlike what MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, The New York Times and all the other radical liberal news outlets spew? At least Fox hasn't tried to tell me what a mob is or isn't or that a 5000 -10,000 immigrant caravan is simply normal immigration.

As far as Kavanaugh, if the "no one ever found that Ford was lying" is the new legal standard then we better start building a lot more prisons. I think what you meant to say (at least I hope) was that no one was ever able to prove that what Ford said was true. In fact all evidence seemed to the contrary. As for not liking how Kavanaugh reacted during the confirmation hearing in relation to his Judicial temperament how can anyone know how they would react in a similar situation. The mans reputation was being destroyed for political gain. I prefer to look at his accomplishments in his years prior to that farce of a confirmation hearing. Comparing the Kavanaugh and Gorsuch confirmations is like comparing apples and oranges. Much different stakes involved in each confirmation.

As to the second part of what you said, yeah, that's a common reaction from the right. Let me correct a few things you said that are flat out wrong, though:

1.) It wasn't a trial. There is no legal standard involved in a confirmation hearing. That's a smear meant to make him sound like a victim, which he isn't. Also, he got confirmed.

2.) Gorsuch: Actually, I would have thought that the Dems would have made a way bigger fuss about this, because that seat was supposed to be for Merrick Garland, Obama's last nominee, but was for the first time ever simply not even given a hearing at the Senate because Mitch McConnell is an *******.

By the way, Garland is thought of very highly for his centrist, by-the-numbers rulings. Despite his obvious right-wing politics, the second-most highly thought of judge from the D.C. Circuit was Kavanaugh.

 

[8th Street]

Wait til the old lady gets replaced . . .

 

[DudznSudz]

I'm being played? How naive to believe that just because Fox sucks (I rarely watch any FOX News) that CNN, MSNBC and the like don't. Likewise you might want to check on the political bias of the site your linking. Business Insider has been found to have a very left of center bias themselves.

They are citing a study. Studies are peer reviewed and independent. If you can't acknowledge the findings of studies, and I cited one survey and two studies there, as having merit and needing to be taken seriously and discussed, then you don't know how to accept information and think clearly.

 

[DudznSudz]

Here's another resource. My thinking is if you're in Left-Center, Least, or Right-Center bias, you're probably ok in your news consumption as long as you're thinking critically.

Where is Fox News? RIGHT BIAS.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

 

[Huskerlife39]

Yup, it was a he-said she-said. This is why I cited his behavior at the hearing as being weird and the thing that should have probably disqualified him, not the accusation itself. Like I said, there were plenty of other arch-conservative judges who didn't have these personal problems waiting in line for a nomination. This is why Mitch McConnell indicated to Trump he really didn't want Kavanaugh as the nominee because he thought it would cause too many problems.

What is your point?

So Trump nominates a justice. The Democrats conduct the ugliest smear campaign in the history of politics after stating they will do anything to stop the confirmation. The nominee vocally defends himself against the ugliest smear campaign in the history of politics. And your response is that the smear shouldn't have disqualified him but his vocal defense should have? I don't know how any logical thinking person can believe that.

 

[Huskerlife39]

They are citing a study. Studies are peer reviewed and independent. If you can't acknowledge the findings of studies, and I cited one survey and two studies there, as having merit and needing to be taken seriously and discussed, then you don't know how to accept information and think clearly.

And your belief that because you have a study, its information can not be challenged, influenced or biased is troubling.

 

[DudznSudz]

So Trump nominates a justice. The Democrats conduct the ugliest smear campaign in the history of politics after stating they will do anything to stop the confirmation. The nominee vocally defends himself against the ugliest smear campaign in the history of politics. And your response is that the smear shouldn't have disqualified him but his vocal defense should have? I don't know how any logical thinking person can believe that.

"Ugliest smear campaign in the history of politics." Ha ha ha, oh boy.

BIRTHERISM.

Second, that was the opinion of lawyers, AND CURRENT AND FORMER SUPREME COURT JUSTICES. I happen to agree with it. It's about temperment, not qualifications, crimes, or even bias. He literally launched into a crazy notion that the Clintons were behind it, and he did that because he was a grimy little pimp of gross information when he worked for Kenneth Starr on the Starr Report.

Lastly, Trump nominated Gorsuch. Gorsuch got confirmed with absolutely no problems, and he's probably more right-wing than Kavanaugh.

Your information and the interpretation of it reeks of right wing ********.

 

[DudznSudz]

And your belief that because you have a study, its information can not be challenged, influenced or biased is troubling.

No, idiot, I said studies are peer reviewed before, during, and after being made available. They are not to be casually discarded as "biased" just because you don't like what they say, unless they are shown to be completely without merit, which those, so far, are not.

 

[Huskerlife39]

Here's another resource. My thinking is if you're in Left-Center, Least, or Right-Center bias, you're probably ok in your news consumption as long as you're thinking critically.

Where is Fox News? RIGHT BIAS.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

Has anyone, ever, in any of these pointless political threads, claimed that Fox was anything but far right? The problem is always that you don't believe that your news sources either lean left or are hard left.

 

[DudznSudz]

Has anyone, ever, in any of these pointless political threads, claimed that Fox was anything but far right? The problem is always that you don't believe that your news sources either lean left or are hard left.

See my post on media fact checking and left-center, center, and right-center news.

 

[Huskerlife39]

"Ugliest smear campaign in the history of politics." Ha ha ha, oh boy.

BIRTHERISM.

Second, that was the opinion of lawyers, AND CURRENT AND FORMER SUPREME COURT JUSTICES. I happen to agree with it. It's about temperment, not qualifications, crimes, or even bias. He literally launched into a crazy notion that the Clintons were behind it, and he did that because he was a grimy little pimp of gross information when he worked for Kenneth Starr on the Starr Report.

Lastly, Trump nominated Gorsuch. Gorsuch got confirmed with absolutely no problems, and he's probably more right-wing than Kavanaugh.

Your information and the interpretation of it reeks of right wing ********.

Is it possible to have a conversation with the left without being called a name or being told your stupid? As far as Gorsuch, he was voted in by Republicans the same as Kavanaugh. Gorsuch received 3 (three) democrat votes for confirmation from senators in heavy Republican states. 2 of those three were voted out largely for not voting for Kavanaugh. Tell me again how Gorsuch sailed through his confirmation again.

Your information and the interpretation of it reeks of liberal ********. But I still wont call you names.

 

[Huskerlife39]

No, idiot, I said studies are peer reviewed before, during, and after being made available. They are not to be casually discarded as "biased" just because you don't like what they say, unless they are shown to be completely without merit, which those, so far, are not.

OK, you keep citing the studies you linked. Please cite for me who peer reviewed them and what their political bias was. Likewise please list for me the political affiliation of the people who created the study, the political affiliation of the people conducting the studies, where the money for the study came from and again the political affiliation of the people drawing the conclusions from the study. Please keep in mind that 90+ percent of educators identify as being democrat.

 

[DudznSudz]

OK, you keep citing the studies you linked. Please cite for me who peer reviewed them and what their political bias was. Likewise please list for me the political affiliation of the people who created the study, the political affiliation of the people conducting the studies, where the money for the study came from and again the political affiliation of the people drawing the conclusions from the study. Please keep in mind that 90+ percent of educators identify as being democrat.

You are literally saying, "Despite how the norms of publishing information work, if I don't like what it says, I'm going to just say its liberal bias."

This is exactly why the Republican party needs to be voted out of power for a very long time, until it re-organizes itself as a center-right party that actually can deal with information and craft policy effectively.

I don't care if the bias is towards free markets and restraining government, that part is fine. I don't agree, but it's fine, because it's reasonable and can be worked with. It's this nonsense, conspiracy-theory, misrepresentation of factual information crap that has to go.

Birtherism. Denial of climate change. Saying the press is the enemy of the people. Denying factual things like gerrymandering. Denying that the gap between rich and poor has been increasing dramatically since the 90's. Denying that race is still a thing.

This stuff is less traditional Republican thought and more Trump conspiracy theory nonsense, and that's the real problem right now. Trump has remade the Republican party into an insane Trumpist party. This is why people like George Will and Max Boot say vote every Republican out of office until the thing collapses and has to be rebuilt. It is not normal anymore.

 

[Tarheelhusker]

Sam, get a couple of cube vans full of ballots to Fl. Joe, load up those ballots for Az.

Move RBG to ICU life support, now!

 

[Huskerlife39]

You are literally saying, "Despite how the norms of publishing information work, if I don't like what it says, I'm going to just say its liberal bias."

This is exactly why the Republican party needs to be voted out of power for a very long time, until it re-organizes itself as a center-right party that actually can deal with information and craft policy effectively.

I don't care if the bias is towards free markets and restraining government, that part is fine. I don't agree, but it's fine, because it's reasonable and can be worked with. It's this nonsense, conspiracy-theory, misrepresentation of factual information crap that has to go.

Birtherism. Denial of climate change. Saying the press is the enemy of the people. Denying factual things like gerrymandering. Denying that the gap between rich and poor has been increasing dramatically since the 90's. Denying that race is still a thing.

This stuff is less traditional Republican thought and more Trump conspiracy theory nonsense, and that's the real problem right now. Trump has remade the Republican party into an insane Trumpist party. This is why people like George Will and Max Boot say vote every Republican out of office until the thing collapses and has to be rebuilt. It is not normal anymore.

The norms of publishing information? Where did you come up with that doozy? If they're publishing something you agree with then they are apparently "following the norms of publishing" and if they are publishing something you disagree with then they are not? If you can not see that politics permeates everything in your life your sleeping. Left or right every aspect of your life is influenced by politics. It didn't start with Trump and it will not end with him. If you are not questioning everything your being told. If your not tracking the money. If your not questioning who benefits from the information being presented. Then you are a sheep and if your not careful being led to slaughter. If you are doing all those things then you have more time and resources than most Americans because our news media can no longer be trusted to do it for us.

 

[DudznSudz]

The norms of publishing information? Where did you come up with that doozy? If they're publishing something you agree with then they are apparently "following the norms of publishing" and if they are publishing something you disagree with then they are not? If you can not see that politics permeates everything in your life your sleeping. Left or right every aspect of your life is influenced by politics. It didn't start with Trump and it will not end with him. If you are not questioning everything your being told. If your not tracking the money. If your not questioning who benefits from the information being presented. Then you are a sheep and if your not careful being led to slaughter. If you are doing all those things then you have more time and resources than most Americans because our news media can no longer be trusted to do it for us.

Wrong. And if you think that, quit now please.

I used the phrase "critical thinking." A key indicator that your argument is BS is that you are exhibiting is called a fallacy of composition. You are asserting that because you have found one or two media sources or stories that you think are biased, that all of the newsmedia is wrong. That's untrue, and poor thinking. But, it definitely is what right wing nutjobs want you to think, so that you'll vote for their crazy-*** candidates and listen to the most paranoid, conspiracy-theory laden crap you can get ahold of.

 

[mel mains]

is coming. U.S. electorate about to discover what our toxic President & followers have caused.

Three pages of partisan bickering and not a single person has explained what in the hell the phrase “reap the whirlwind is coming” means. Reap. A whirlwind. That’s coming.

 

[DudznSudz]

Three pages of partisan bickering and not a single person has explained what in the hell the phrase “reap the whirlwind is coming” means. Reap. A whirlwind. That’s coming.

Ha ha ha, I think it had to do with the election, at least at first. I kinda forgot though.

 

[Mack In Motion]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm cool with douchebags foaming at the mouth on cable "news" so long as I agree with them and they can tell me daily what to think. It's those "other" guys who listen to the bomb-throwers I disagree with that are the problem. Its certainly not me.

Along related lines, I'm totally cool with both this president and our last president

1) acting like a full time dick toward anyone or any idea he's ideologically opposed to and

2) having zero ability -- none whatsoever -- to work with "others" falling outside his ideology on any issue facing the country.

So long as it's MY preferred dick in the white house shoving a stick into the eye of others it's all good. I will admit, however, that it bothers me when the dude I don't like is shoving a stick in my eye. Can't wait till "my guy" is back in and can shove that stick back in the eye of those "other guys" who are the problem. That'll show em.

Personally, I don't care if nothing ever gets done outside of a supermajority in both Chambers of the party of the head agitator.

And if you don't like that? Get in the back of the bus, you fine people from both sides. So much winning, because elections have consequences.

 

[Huskerlife39]

Wrong. And if you think that, quit now please.

I used the phrase "critical thinking." A key indicator that your argument is BS is that you are exhibiting is called a fallacy of composition. You are asserting that because you have found one or two media sources or stories that you think are biased, that all of the newsmedia is wrong. That's untrue, and poor thinking. But, it definitely is what right wing nutjobs want you to think, so that you'll vote for their crazy-*** candidates and listen to the most paranoid, conspiracy-theory laden crap you can get ahold of.

Dude, just out of curiosity, when do you graduate. Because its obvious you have little actual life experience.

 

[DudznSudz]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm cool with douchebags foaming at the mouth on cable "news" so long as I agree with them and they can tell me daily what to think. It's those "other" guys who listen to the bomb-throwers I disagree with that are the problem. Its certainly not me.

Along related lines, I'm totally cool with both this president and our last president

1) acting like a full time dick toward anyone or any idea he's ideologically opposed to and

2) having zero ability -- none whatsoever -- to work with "others" falling outside his ideology on any issue facing the country.

So long as it's MY preferred dick in the white house shoving a stick into the eye of others it's all good. I will admit, however, that it bothers me when the dude I don't like is shoving a stick in my eye. Can't wait till "my guy" is back in and can shove that stick back in the eye of those "other guys" who are the problem. That'll show em.

Personally, I don't care if nothing ever gets done outside of a supermajority in both Chambers of the party of the head agitator.

And if you don't like that? Get in the back of the bus, you fine people from both sides. So much winning, because elections have consequences.

Lol, that was actually pretty good!

 

[DudznSudz]

Dude, just out of curiosity, when do you graduate. Because its obvious you have little actual life experience.

Ooooo ya GOT me! I'm too young to be correct!

 

[gw2kpro]

 

[Husker Todd_rivals48744]

So Trump nominates a justice. The Democrats conduct the ugliest smear campaign in the history of politics after stating they will do anything to stop the confirmation. The nominee vocally defends himself against the ugliest smear campaign in the history of politics. And your response is that the smear shouldn't have disqualified him but his vocal defense should have? I don't know how any logical thinking person can believe that.

I had to laugh at you thinking he/she could think logically or think at all. How I envisioned @DudznSudz, as I read through this thread and it got angrier and started name calling.

Edit: I put "it got angrier", because after I put he/ she in my first line, I realized given their left leaning beliefs they/them/those may not gender identify.

 

[Old_Gold_Knight]

Ooooo ya GOT me! I'm too young to be correct!

Quite honestly, you sound like someone currently going through the brainwash/indoctrination process at an "institution of higher learning."

Just an observation.

 

[DudznSudz]

Quite honestly, you sound like someone currently going through the brainwash/indoctrination process at an "institution of higher learning."

Just an observation.

Yes, education is...bad....

 

[Mr.Scary13]

"Ugliest smear campaign in the history of politics." Ha ha ha, oh boy.

BIRTHERISM.

Second, that was the opinion of lawyers, AND CURRENT AND FORMER SUPREME COURT JUSTICES. I happen to agree with it. It's about temperment, not qualifications, crimes, or even bias. He literally launched into a crazy notion that the Clintons were behind it, and he did that because he was a grimy little pimp of gross information when he worked for Kenneth Starr on the Starr Report.

Lastly, Trump nominated Gorsuch. Gorsuch got confirmed with absolutely no problems, and he's probably more right-wing than Kavanaugh.

Your information and the interpretation of it reeks of right wing ********.

If you cant figure out why the Dems and liberals treated Kavanaugh and Gorsuch different you don't know politics very well. Like someone stated in this thread, you think the sh*t they pulled on Kav was bad wait till the old lady gets replaced and Trump gets to nominate a third SCJ. The dems will go absolute apesh*t no matter who gets nominated.

 

[planored]

And I believe it will be the fine conservative lady, though can't recall her name right now!

 

[DudznSudz]

If you cant figure out why the Dems and liberals treated Kavanaugh and Gorsuch different you don't know politics very well. Like someone stated in this thread, you think the sh*t they pulled on Kav was bad wait till the old lady gets replaced and Trump gets to nominate a third SCJ. The dems will go absolute apesh*t no matter who gets nominated.

You're referring to how a second Trump pick re-balances the courts in a much more conservative direction, rather than the first pick, which was stolen, not having that dramatic of an effect. Other than Notorious RBG, the next one likely to be replaced is Thomas. RBG is recovering quite well, by the way.

I'm not overly concerned about the supreme court. I know you conservative idiots have to be, because the policies you support (or want to get rid of) are not popular so you need an un-elected branch to carry out the action, but in my opinion, having the presidency and the legislature is more important.

Besides, if the court gets too whacked out, term limits on justices or court packing could happen next.

 

[GeorgeFlippin]

If you cant figure out why the Dems and liberals treated Kavanaugh and Gorsuch different you don't know politics very well. Like someone stated in this thread, you think the sh*t they pulled on Kav was bad wait till the old lady gets replaced and Trump gets to nominate a third SCJ. The dems will go absolute apesh*t no matter who gets nominated.

Don’t forget the chit-show Clarence Thomas had to go through.

 

[SnohomishRed]

Yes, education is...bad....

some of it actually is - The discourse mainly form the left is very rude - crude and insulting - I think everyone has a right to their opinion however the left does not agree with that why?

I say some it is the education they are getting - there is no doubt colleges are almost totally left leaning and in many cases far left same goes for the media it has been documented very well the main stream media is biased to the left.


Keep the discourse civil and keep an open mind just because you are young does not make you wrong but it is also illogical to not take into account life experiences from the older crowd

 

[DudznSudz]

Wait until the Mueller indictments come down. You chumps are going to look even dumber than you already do.

 

[barney44]

Where in the hell do these liberals find time to “protest” and “march” all the time?

 

[DudznSudz]

some of it actually is - The discourse mainly form the left is very rude - crude and insulting - I think everyone has a right to their opinion however the left does not agree with that why?

I say some it is the education they are getting - there is no doubt colleges are almost totally left leaning and in many cases far left same goes for the media it has been documented very well the main stream media is biased to the left.


Keep the discourse civil and keep an open mind just because you are young does not make you wrong but it is also illogical to not take into account life experiences from the older crowd

The first two paragraphs of your reply are nonsense. You don't get to claim the left is rude or crude when Trump is the president, and education has always been a left-leaning institution in society, because education eliminates ignorance, and conservatism thrives in ignorance. To quote John Stuart Mill, "It is not to say that all conservative people are stupid, just that stupid people tend to be conservative."

The last paragraph is a good point.

 

[barney44]

Wait until the Mueller indictments come down. You chumps are going to look even dumber than you already do.

We’ve been hearing this for how long now?

I’m sure Mueller is an honorable man...

 

[Harry Caray]

I'm not overly concerned about the supreme court. I know you conservative idiots have to be, because the policies you support (or want to get rid of) are not popular so you need an un-elected branch to carry out the action, but in my opinion, having the presidency and the legislature is more important.

LOL, remember when California voters (a Democrat state) rejected gay marriage (Prop 8), only for the Supreme Court to overrule them?

 

[planored]

Isn't it ironic that Fusion GPS, heavily involved in the fake dossier, now have characters involved in the Florida debacle on the election. Dems will stop at nothing!

 

[barney44]

To quote John Stuart Mill, "It is not to say that all conservative people are stupid, just that stupid people tend to be conservative”.

Yeah because smart people vote for Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Keith Ellison, Ilhan Omar, Alexandrea Oscaio-Cortez, etc..

Face it, both sides have their own share of idiots.

 

[DudznSudz]

LOL, remember when California voters (a Democrat state) rejected gay marriage (Prop 8), only for the Supreme Court to overrule them?

Lol, who voted for it? Conservatives led by Mormons! You do know that not everybody in California is liberal, don't you?

 

[Huskerlife39]

And I believe it will be the fine conservative lady, though can't recall her name right now!

Wonder what they will accuse her of. If I remember correctly she is to religious. Can't have religion in politics you know.