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GeorgeFlippin

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Not really. Do you ever watch Fox News? That's basically all they do is name-call and peddle conspiracy theories, and it has a huge, poisonous influence on our politics.
I don’t watch Fox News. But you’re the type who thinks that MSNBC and other outlets who no doubt cheer lead and name call peddle their conspiracy theories as well is good, right? And no doubt, with your leftist views, you would feel more comfortable with Che or Fidel as your leader, wouldn’t you?

If you don’t think that your favorite news organizations don’t do the same as you accuse Fox of doing, pay attention to how the Republicans took more Senate seats, or how they and other left wingers such as yourself tried to smear Kavanaugh, only to be shown what a lie it all was. You throw stones in your glass house again and again.
 

DudznSudz

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I don’t watch Fox News. But you’re the type who thinks that MSNBC and other outlets who no doubt cheer lead and name call peddle their conspiracy theories as well is good, right? And no doubt, with your leftist views, you would feel more comfortable with Che or Fidel as your leader, wouldn’t you?

If you don’t think that your favorite news organizations don’t do the same as you accuse Fox of doing, pay attention to how the Republicans took more Senate seats, or how they and other left wingers such as yourself tried to smear Kavanaugh, only to be shown what a lie it all was. You throw stones in your glass house again and again.


I don't watch MSNBC. It doesn't do anything near what Fox News does, but it's overrun with opinion journalism rather than straightforward journalism, and at this point in my life, I don't need that.

Now, let's examine what you just said:

Che Guevara and Fidel Castro were communist guerrilla leaders. One was killed by the CIA, the other led a repressive regime in Cuba until he finally kicked the bucket. Neither has anything to do with the Democratic party in America, or with social democracy as it is practiced in most other industrialized free countries.

On the Senate: The Dems were up against the worst Senate map in a generation. They were either going to, at best, net zero losses, or at worst, lose a few seats due to this. That won't happen again for 30+ years, so don't get too comfortable. The facts of the numbers on re-election (FACTS) can be seen here: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/2018_elections_senate_map.html

The House: I've already addressed gerrymandering and sorting as the chief problems with House elections right now, and that goes both ways. The concern is the most recent abusers were the Republicans, and they're doing that because they know their policies are not as popular and that they are losing ground in appealing to voters, so they are trying to over-represent their districts with rural voters and hardcore right wing areas. This is why an independent commission is the best way to draw up districts. Or do you not want to compete on an even playing field? By all means, the GOP can keep trying to win through cheating, but in the long run, it's already started to bite them in the ***.

Kavanaugh: I don't really like how all of that went down, either, but nobody found, ever, that Dr. Ford was lying. That in and of itself is a right-wing lie. Anyone watching it, including judges and lawyers, instead would have flagged him as being unfit for throwing a crazy temper tantrum. This has come out in a book just published by a journalist who interviewed the CURRENT SCOTUS members under a condition of anonymity; THEY didn't even like how he acted. And what bothers me the most about that is, the Federalist Society already had 3 more candidates who are JUST as right-wing ready to go who did not have those personal problems. Also, Neil Gorsuch's confirmation went off without a hitch, and he's actually more conservative than Kavanaugh.

So, maybe you should, I dunno, read a bit more and think a little deeper on these issues.
 

Mack In Motion

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Not really. Do you ever watch Fox News? That's basically all they do is name-call and peddle conspiracy theories, and it has a huge, poisonous influence on our politics.

All major cable news organizations are disgusting. CNN, FOX, MSNBC. I can't watch more than 2 minutes of any of them.

They exist so that the lowest common denominator (large numbers of people) on each side knows where to go to get their red meat talking points and scream at the other side over how wrong they are, how poisoned their views are, how biased the "bad" news organization supporting the other side is.
 

GeorgeFlippin

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I don't watch MSNBC. It doesn't do anything near what Fox News does, but it's overrun with opinion journalism rather than straightforward journalism, and at this point in my life, I don't need that.

Now, let's examine what you just said:

Che Guevara and Fidel Castro were communist guerrilla leaders. One was killed by the CIA, the other led a repressive regime in Cuba until he finally kicked the bucket. Neither has anything to do with the Democratic party in America, or with social democracy as it is practiced in most other industrialized free countries.

On the Senate: The Dems were up against the worst Senate map in a generation. They were either going to, at best, net zero losses, or at worst, lose a few seats due to this. That won't happen again for 30+ years, so don't get too comfortable. The facts of the numbers on re-election (FACTS) can be seen here: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/2018_elections_senate_map.html

The House: I've already addressed gerrymandering and sorting as the chief problems with House elections right now, and that goes both ways. The concern is the most recent abusers were the Republicans, and they're doing that because they know their policies are not as popular and that they are losing ground in appealing to voters, so they are trying to over-represent their districts with rural voters and hardcore right wing areas. This is why an independent commission is the best way to draw up districts. Or do you not want to compete on an even playing field? By all means, the GOP can keep trying to win through cheating, but in the long run, it's already started to bite them in the ***.

Kavanaugh: I don't really like how all of that went down, either, but nobody found, ever, that Dr. Ford was lying. That in and of itself is a right-wing lie. Anyone watching it, including judges and lawyers, instead would have flagged him as being unfit for throwing a crazy temper tantrum. This has come out in a book just published by a journalist who interviewed the CURRENT SCOTUS members under a condition of anonymity; THEY didn't even like how he acted. And what bothers me the most about that is, the Federalist Society already had 3 more candidates who are JUST as right-wing ready to go who did not have those personal problems. Also, Neil Gorsuch's confirmation went off without a hitch, and he's actually more conservative than Kavanaugh.

So, maybe you should, I dunno, read a bit more and think a little deeper on these issues.
Che and Fidel were leftists, but you can call them communists all you want.

You must watch a lot Fox, you seem to know a lot of what they say, amazing. Do you get that from your left wing sources?

I never said that Che or Fidel had anything to do with United States politics, just that you’d be more comfortable with either being your leader, learn how to read.

There was no proof that Kavanaugh was lying, just left wing gibberish trying to smear a man who you and your ilk opposed, plain and simple.

Your reading something from a journalist who interviewed under condition if anonymity is laughable at best, just plain stupid.

I know quite extensively what went on, it was nothing more than the typical left wing liberals trying every lie in the book to get their way, and failing miserably again.

And your win by cheating comment is hilarious, but you should know about cheaters, Hillary and Wasserman Schultz are part of your thinking, right? Laughing
 

dand84

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Not really. Do you ever watch ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post? That's basically all they do is name-call and peddle conspiracy theories, and it has a huge, poisonous influence on our politics.
Fixed it for you. Same kind of vapid, deranged, hysterical nonsense we've heard since before 2016 election night. My gosh, grow up. But then, you are like most on the left. You think you have things figured out then election night comes 2 years ago and Tuesday and you get a big ol' slap across the face by reality.
 

GeorgeFlippin

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You mean people who love America and the Constitution, rule of law, freedom, freedom of speech, God and Country. You sound like a fascist anarchist.
Saw on a google feed that Antifa, aka Leftist terrorists, were outside someone named Tucker Carlson’s house, guess he’s on Fox News per what was in the story. That’s something old Dudz would probably inject himself into being a leftist and all, he certainly demonstrates those traits with the anger and vitriol in his comments.
 

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So, maybe you should, I dunno, read a bit more and think a little deeper on these issues.

You’re wasting your time, dude. Do you think anyone has ever changed their political views after an argument on a message board?

Time is on your side. The nature of politics is that progressives push for faster change while conservatives resist. Change eventually comes, one way or another. Some day you’ll be old and bitter about some new idea young people are pushing, and you can tell them they’ll get their chance once they’ve put in their time like you did.
 

DudznSudz

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You’re wasting your time, dude. Do you think anyone has ever changed their political views after an argument on a message board?

Time is on your side. The nature of politics is that progressives push for faster change while conservatives resist. Change eventually comes, one way or another. Some day you’ll be old and bitter about some new idea young people are pushing, and you can tell them they’ll get their chance once they’ve put in their time like you did.


Ha ha, yeah, fair enough.
 

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Time for our country to unite. We are all Americans in the greatest nation God has ever created. The divisiveness is getting old.
I hate to inform you but very seldom has the USA been united. The problem I see today is some of these people on the losing side can't take it and they choose violence. I'll admit it I never liked oboma but I sure as hell never choose violence because my guys lost. I never disrespected him. Trump wasn't my first choice, I respect him as president. And to all the people that are still pissed because he beat Hillary, find a better candidate next time, don't ***** about trump when you had a shittier candidate. And don't tell me the freaking Russians interfered with the election, hell the Clintons sold uranium to Russia, if anyone conspired with Russia it was them!!!
 

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Just amazing that a woman would be stupid enough to attempt something like implementing Sharia Law in the U.S. Good Lord.

Yes, here's your opportunity ladies to be abused legally by your spouse and other men. Step right up and put an X in the box and sign your rights as a human being away.

And the she is a Dem. The party that pretends to care about women and minorities. Their pathetic display at the Kavanaugh hearings was sickening.

Have you noticed how gerrymandering and sorting problems work? No? That's because you're an ignorant dumbass. The only good news out of this is, the 2020 census is coming up and Dems picked up enough gubernatorial seats to ensure that the gerrymandering committed after the 2010 census, mostly by Republicans, is reversed. Personally, I think districts should be drawn 100% by independent commissions in every state so that partisan influence would not be a part of it at all, because both sides will abuse that power. I single out Republicans because they were the ones that did it the most recently, and very egregiously.

@Tuco Salamanca, about that post from the thread that got locked: No, you don't "write off" debt from China; if the U.S. tried to do anything like that, it would crash the world economy. Your answer makes no sense at all.

Also, nobody who should be taken seriously wants Sharia law here. Also also, did any of you ignorant, frothing Republican-voting fools watch that press conference yesterday? And you think that bloated, unstable mess is Presidential material? That's inexcusable, and frankly, if you think that, you shouldn't vote. That kind of performance makes me, a pretty leftist voter, wish that GOP politicians like the recently deceased John McCain and Mitt Romney were the worst things we had to deal with. I don't vote Republican, but I would HAPPILY vote for Romney with a huuuuge smile on my face compared to this nightmare.

By the way, if you don't like Obamacare, it is now called Trumpcare, even though he did nothing to it other than try to gut it. "Beautifully covered?" The guy lies so much, and so regularly, even supporters of his would have a hard time keeping what he says straight. He's a snake oil salesman.

Lastly, I lived in Massachusetts when Romney introduced the same exact idea prior to the Obama presidency; force coverage or pay a fine, lower premiums. It was a mostly-Republican idea!

I think that you may want to quit watching "The View" and educate yourself on how this country was founded, i.e. checks and balances.
 

DudznSudz

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And the she is a Dem. The party that pretends to care about women and minorities. Their pathetic display at the Kavanaugh hearings was sickening.



I think that you may want to quit watching "The View" and educate yourself on how this country was founded, i.e. checks and balances.


Duhhhhh whaaaaat?
 

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Just pure data from AP and electoral boards (below)...looking ONLY at senate races, not the house at all. Democrats did actually turn out and vote, and vastly outvoted republicans in terms of raw votes cast, it's just that they tend to cluster in city centers and in fewer states so they end up over-voting for fewer seats. But in terms of % of the voting population, the democrats represent a much larger % of the population.

Votes Cast for Democrat Candidates: 46,296,655 votes (56.9%)
Votes Cast for Republican Candidates: 33,678,739 votes(41.4%)
 

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Just pure data from AP and electoral boards (below)...looking ONLY at senate races, not the house at all. Democrats did actually turn out and vote, and vastly outvoted republicans in terms of raw votes cast, it's just that they tend to cluster in city centers and in fewer states so they end up over-voting for fewer seats. But in terms of % of the voting population, the democrats represent a much larger % of the population.

Votes Cast for Democrat Candidates: 46,296,655 votes (56.9%)
Votes Cast for Republican Candidates: 33,678,739 votes(41.4%)
And what were the popular vote totals in the last presidential election?
 

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Thankfully that doesn't matter! You have some huge **** hole cities that are dem for reasons I still don't understand fully but they lose. 2+ Senate seats gained for mid term Pres since JFK. The race to socialism by the left will continue their demise. With the dems candidates performance during Kavanaugh hearing they have zero chance against Trump in 2020, Harris, Booker, Warren that will be a blast to watch.
 

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Have you noticed how gerrymandering and sorting problems work? No? That's because you're an ignorant dumbass. The only good news out of this is, the 2020 census is coming up and Dems picked up enough gubernatorial seats to ensure that the gerrymandering committed after the 2010 census, mostly by Republicans, is reversed. Personally, I think districts should be drawn 100% by independent commissions in every state so that partisan influence would not be a part of it at all, because both sides will abuse that power. I single out Republicans because they were the ones that did it the most recently, and very egregiously.

@Tuco Salamanca, about that post from the thread that got locked: No, you don't "write off" debt from China; if the U.S. tried to do anything like that, it would crash the world economy. Your answer makes no sense at all.

Also, nobody who should be taken seriously wants Sharia law here. Also also, did any of you ignorant, frothing Republican-voting fools watch that press conference yesterday? And you think that bloated, unstable mess is Presidential material? That's inexcusable, and frankly, if you think that, you shouldn't vote. That kind of performance makes me, a pretty leftist voter, wish that GOP politicians like the recently deceased John McCain and Mitt Romney were the worst things we had to deal with. I don't vote Republican, but I would HAPPILY vote for Romney with a huuuuge smile on my face compared to this nightmare.

By the way, if you don't like Obamacare, it is now called Trumpcare, even though he did nothing to it other than try to gut it. "Beautifully covered?" The guy lies so much, and so regularly, even supporters of his would have a hard time keeping what he says straight. He's a snake oil salesman.

Lastly, I lived in Massachusetts when Romney introduced the same exact idea prior to the Obama presidency; force coverage or pay a fine, lower premiums. It was a mostly-Republican idea!

The tolerant left on display folks...

Equality until you disagree with them..
 

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Have you noticed how gerrymandering and sorting problems work? No? That's because you're an ignorant dumbass. The only good news out of this is, the 2020 census is coming up and Dems picked up enough gubernatorial seats to ensure that the gerrymandering committed after the 2010 census, mostly by Republicans, is reversed. Personally, I think districts should be drawn 100% by independent commissions in every state so that partisan influence would not be a part of it at all, because both sides will abuse that power. I single out Republicans because they were the ones that did it the most recently, and very egregiously.

@Tuco Salamanca, about that post from the thread that got locked: No, you don't "write off" debt from China; if the U.S. tried to do anything like that, it would crash the world economy. Your answer makes no sense at all.

Also, nobody who should be taken seriously wants Sharia law here. Also also, did any of you ignorant, frothing Republican-voting fools watch that press conference yesterday? And you think that bloated, unstable mess is Presidential material? That's inexcusable, and frankly, if you think that, you shouldn't vote. That kind of performance makes me, a pretty leftist voter, wish that GOP politicians like the recently deceased John McCain and Mitt Romney were the worst things we had to deal with. I don't vote Republican, but I would HAPPILY vote for Romney with a huuuuge smile on my face compared to this nightmare.

By the way, if you don't like Obamacare, it is now called Trumpcare, even though he did nothing to it other than try to gut it. "Beautifully covered?" The guy lies so much, and so regularly, even supporters of his would have a hard time keeping what he says straight. He's a snake oil salesman.

Lastly, I lived in Massachusetts when Romney introduced the same exact idea prior to the Obama presidency; force coverage or pay a fine, lower premiums. It was a mostly-Republican idea!
 
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With a consolidated Senate another S.C. judge could go in with the process being less of a witch hunt....

Who cares about new laws being stymied. More liberty for us when more bills die in the barely blue house....out comes the phone and the pen...and the Harry Reid 51 vote nuclear option...

You leftists really suck at not creating a top down system you know that? You think socialism is a good idea? Consolidate money at the top, then when teddy bear Bernie or someone like him goes away in steps Stalin....now with all that consolidated power you thought would be such a great idea.

Dang you guys ever get the feeling you think too hard? Good grief how about we try electing characters who want a country with LESS power up top??? Ever think that liberty thing the founding fathers envisioned might be the way to go?
 

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And what were the popular vote totals in the last presidential election?

The electoral college.....educate yourself.

The tolerant left on display folks...

Equality until you disagree with them..

They certainly enjoy their safe place echo chambers.

Places where common sense goes to die.
 
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HuskerBruce81

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Have you noticed how gerrymandering and sorting problems work? No? That's because you're an ignorant dumbass. The only good news out of this is, the 2020 census is coming up and Dems picked up enough gubernatorial seats to ensure that the gerrymandering committed after the 2010 census, mostly by Republicans, is reversed. Personally, I think districts should be drawn 100% by independent commissions in every state so that partisan influence would not be a part of it at all, because both sides will abuse that power. I single out Republicans because they were the ones that did it the most recently, and very egregiously.

@Tuco Salamanca, about that post from the thread that got locked: No, you don't "write off" debt from China; if the U.S. tried to do anything like that, it would crash the world economy. Your answer makes no sense at all.

Also, nobody who should be taken seriously wants Sharia law here. Also also, did any of you ignorant, frothing Republican-voting fools watch that press conference yesterday? And you think that bloated, unstable mess is Presidential material? That's inexcusable, and frankly, if you think that, you shouldn't vote. That kind of performance makes me, a pretty leftist voter, wish that GOP politicians like the recently deceased John McCain and Mitt Romney were the worst things we had to deal with. I don't vote Republican, but I would HAPPILY vote for Romney with a huuuuge smile on my face compared to this nightmare.

By the way, if you don't like Obamacare, it is now called Trumpcare, even though he did nothing to it other than try to gut it. "Beautifully covered?" The guy lies so much, and so regularly, even supporters of his would have a hard time keeping what he says straight. He's a snake oil salesman.

Lastly, I lived in Massachusetts when Romney introduced the same exact idea prior to the Obama presidency; force coverage or pay a fine, lower premiums. It was a mostly-Republican idea!


Gerrymandering? You mean redistricting after the Census?

Both parties do it
 
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DudznSudz

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Gerrymandering? You mean redistricting after the Census?

Both parties do it

What have I been saying the entire posting thread? They shouldn't. They need to undo what was done and have independent commissions draw up the districts. Then we'll see who wins what.
 

Huskerlife39

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Not really. Do you ever watch Fox News? That's basically all they do is name-call and peddle conspiracy theories, and it has a huge, poisonous influence on our politics.
Unlike what MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, The New York Times and all the other radical liberal news outlets spew? At least Fox hasn't tried to tell me what a mob is or isn't or that a 5000 -10,000 immigrant caravan is simply normal immigration.

As far as Kavanaugh, if the "no one ever found that Ford was lying" is the new legal standard then we better start building a lot more prisons. I think what you meant to say (at least I hope) was that no one was ever able to prove that what Ford said was true. In fact all evidence seemed to the contrary. As for not liking how Kavanaugh reacted during the confirmation hearing in relation to his Judicial temperament how can anyone know how they would react in a similar situation. The mans reputation was being destroyed for political gain. I prefer to look at his accomplishments in his years prior to that farce of a confirmation hearing. Comparing the Kavanaugh and Gorsuch confirmations is like comparing apples and oranges. Much different stakes involved in each confirmation.
 
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Unlike what MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, The New York Times and all the other radical liberal news outlets spew? At least Fox hasn't tried to tell me what a mob is or isn't or that a 5000 -10,000 immigrant caravan is simply normal immigration.

Uhhh no.

Here's what people think of the various news outlets:

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-and-least-biased-news-outlets-in-america-2018-6

And here's a study showing that consuming Fox News makes you less informed than no news at all, simply from all of their crazy ********:

https://www.businessinsider.com/stu...-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5

And here's the results of a Pew research study I found with very little trouble at the University of Michigan that highlights that the left does not have an equivalent to Fox News:

https://guides.lib.umich.edu/c.php?g=637508&p=4462444

"These news sources are rated as "Right" by Allsides. According to the Pew survey, they are more distrusted than trusted by people who are mostly liberal and consistently liberal; and are more trusted than distrusted by people who are mixed, mostly conservative, and consistently conservative. Note that this represents a further bias leaning than the "towards the left" sources. There are no direct parallels on the right."

"Radical" liberal media my ***. You're being played.
 

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DudznSudz,Yesterday at 10:57 AM

Kavanaugh: I don't really like how all of that went down, either, but nobody found, ever, that Dr. Ford was telling the truth.


Fixed it . . .

Yup, it was a he-said she-said. This is why I cited his behavior at the hearing as being weird and the thing that should have probably disqualified him, not the accusation itself. Like I said, there were plenty of other arch-conservative judges who didn't have these personal problems waiting in line for a nomination. This is why Mitch McConnell indicated to Trump he really didn't want Kavanaugh as the nominee because he thought it would cause too many problems.

What is your point?
 

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Yup, it was a he-said she-said. This is why I cited his behavior at the hearing as being weird and the thing that should have probably disqualified him, not the accusation itself. Like I said, there were plenty of other arch-conservative judges who didn't have these personal problems waiting in line for a nomination. This is why Mitch McConnell indicated to Trump he really didn't want Kavanaugh as the nominee because he thought it would cause too many problems.

What is your point?

Lots of lies by accusers . . .
 
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Huskerlife39

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Uhhh no.

Here's what people think of the various news outlets:

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-and-least-biased-news-outlets-in-america-2018-6

And here's a study showing that consuming Fox News makes you less informed than no news at all, simply from all of their crazy ********:

https://www.businessinsider.com/stu...-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5

And here's the results of a Pew research study I found with very little trouble at the University of Michigan that highlights that the left does not have an equivalent to Fox News:

https://guides.lib.umich.edu/c.php?g=637508&p=4462444

"These news sources are rated as "Right" by Allsides. According to the Pew survey, they are more distrusted than trusted by people who are mostly liberal and consistently liberal; and are more trusted than distrusted by people who are mixed, mostly conservative, and consistently conservative. Note that this represents a further bias leaning than the "towards the left" sources. There are no direct parallels on the right."

"Radical" liberal media my ***. You're being played.
I'm being played? How naive to believe that just because Fox sucks (I rarely watch any FOX News) that CNN, MSNBC and the like don't. Likewise you might want to check on the political bias of the site your linking. Business Insider has been found to have a very left of center bias themselves.