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bunny23

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Who the heck will be playing down low ? With Okie dokie gone we don't have anyone to guard 7'0 centers. Any new players going to add depth to this years team?

Starters
Watson 6'0
Copeland 6'9
Palmer 6'6
Allan 6'1
Roby 6'8
 

Redscarlet

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Brady Heiman 6-10 from Springfield Nebraska is one option at center/forward and JC Dedoch Chan..

One weakness this season is quality coming off the bench..
 
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JohnRossEwing

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Brady Heiman 6-10 from Springfield Nebraska is one option at center/forward and JC Dedoch Chan..

One weakness this season is quality coming off the bench..

I think Miles is going to keep a super short bench. I am guessing once conference starts he will be using 6 guys for the most part. The drop off behind the starters is YUGE
 

Redscarlet

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I think Miles is going to keep a super short bench. I am guessing once conference starts he will be using 6 guys for the most part. The drop off behind the starters is YUGE

Some how he needs to find at least 3 other players by the time January comes upon us.
 
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bunny23

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I think short bench lack of size down low will hurt this team in BIG 10 conference play. It will make it hard for long BIG 10 tourney run.
 

Harry Caray

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If Roby isn't healthy, this team won't be dancing. If he does stay healthy, he'll be a mismatch nightmare for teams at the 4/5 position.

Either Nana Akenten or Amir Harris has to step up to provide significant minutes off the bench. With a 20-game conference schedule, our starters will wear down if they have to play 35-40 minutes every game.
 

JohnRossEwing

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If Roby isn't healthy, this team won't be dancing. If he does stay healthy, he'll be a mismatch nightmare for teams at the 4/5 position.

Either Nana Akenten or Amir Harris has to step up to provide significant minutes off the bench. With a 20-game conference schedule, our starters will wear down if they have to play 35-40 minutes every game.

I think Roby would be better without Palmer on the team. Palmer is a true basketball alpha...Roby is very much not. It will be interesting to see how that plays out because Miles needs Roby to believe that it is his team too.

Someone mentioned finding 3 more players...that will be tough.
 
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GeorgeFlippin

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Who the heck will be playing down low ? With Okie dokie gone we don't have anyone to guard 7'0 centers. Any new players going to add depth to this years team?

Starters
Watson 6'0
Copeland 6'9
Palmer 6'6
Allan 6'1
Roby 6'8
If you played the girl in your picture down low, everyone on the opposing team would foul out!
 

chicolby

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I think Roby would be better without Palmer on the team. Palmer is a true basketball alpha...Roby is very much not. It will be interesting to see how that plays out because Miles needs Roby to believe that it is his team too.

Someone mentioned finding 3 more players...that will be tough.
No disrespect, but I disagree with your statement. I think these two work so well together for exactly the reason you stated. Palmer is an alpha and Roby isn't. Roby is great at effort plays, tip-ins, and blocked shots. He will fill up a stat sheet without shooting 20 times per game. And that's where his value lies.

Regarding the people who have concerns over size, I present the Golden State Warriors. They go most games without the big body that their opponents have, but they turn that into their advantage on the offensive side.

If Nebraska can pass the ball effectively (e.g., swing the ball and find the open man), a 7 footer would be dead against this offense.

Will be very interesting to see how it all shakes out, but I'm hopeful for a (very) successful season.
 

JohnRossEwing

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No disrespect, but I disagree with your statement. I think these two work so well together for exactly the reason you stated. Palmer is an alpha and Roby isn't. Roby is great at effort plays, tip-ins, and blocked shots. He will fill up a stat sheet without shooting 20 times per game. And that's where his value lies.

Regarding the people who have concerns over size, I present the Golden State Warriors. They go most games without the big body that their opponents have, but they turn that into their advantage on the offensive side.

If Nebraska can pass the ball effectively (e.g., swing the ball and find the open man), a 7 footer would be dead against this offense.

Will be very interesting to see how it all shakes out, but I'm hopeful for a (very) successful season.
Yeah, you bring up some good points...Roby is effective doing those things.

I do feel a bit disrespected but I will get over it, in time, I think. :)
 

dinglefritz

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Who the heck will be playing down low ? With Okie dokie gone we don't have anyone to guard 7'0 centers. Any new players going to add depth to this years team?

Starters
Watson 6'0
Copeland 6'9
Palmer 6'6
Allan 6'1
Roby 6'8
FWIW, Tanner Borchardt 6-8/250 was mentioned this summer as a guy who impressed at least one basketball reporter who got to watch workouts. I can not remember who the guy was but at the time I thought it was somebody who I respected the opinion of. They voiced that they thought he is an improved player and that he's going to play more minutes than some expect. Personally I think Tanner may be an upgrade this season over our grad transfer.
 
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schuele

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I do think lack of size is a big deal, but I don't see much - if any - drop-off from last year. Okeke couldn't stay on the floor because he couldn't catch the ball or put it through a hula hoop. Tschimanga couldn't stay on the floor because of chronic foul trouble. They barely combined for 20 minutes per game.
 

HUSKERFAN66

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FWIW, Tanner Borchardt 6-8/250 was mentioned this summer as a guy who impressed at least one basketball reporter who got to watch workouts. I can not remember who the guy was but at the time I thought it was somebody who I respected the opinion of. They voiced that they thought he is an improved player and that he's going to play more minutes than some expect. Personally I think Tanner may be an upgrade this season over our grad transfer.
Thanks. I remember hearing that as well.
 

dinglefritz

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I played a lot of basketball for a lot of years and the guys I hated to match up with were the guys who outweighed me by 30 lbs and were strong. I could play with guys several inches taller than me but man you put a stout in shape guy on you and they can hurt you without trying. They make you think twice about trying to take them to the hole or elevate for a rebound. We NEED that kind of presence at times and I think Borchardt may provide enough of that to help at times.
 
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Suhrreal

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No disrespect, but I disagree with your statement. I think these two work so well together for exactly the reason you stated. Palmer is an alpha and Roby isn't. Roby is great at effort plays, tip-ins, and blocked shots. He will fill up a stat sheet without shooting 20 times per game. And that's where his value lies.

Regarding the people who have concerns over size, I present the Golden State Warriors. They go most games without the big body that their opponents have, but they turn that into their advantage on the offensive side.

If Nebraska can pass the ball effectively (e.g., swing the ball and find the open man), a 7 footer would be dead against this offense.

Will be very interesting to see how it all shakes out, but I'm hopeful for a (very) successful season.

Golden State has three of the best shooters the game has ever seen on their team. Not sure you can use that comparison...

As for a big man, we don't need a big man for offensive purposes. We need a big man to anchor the defensive end. We took a few close losses last season that would have put us in the tournament if we won them. We lost those games mainly because the opposing team's big man scored almost at will down low.
 

JohnRossEwing

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You can play small but you better have good spacing and good spacing comes from having shooters.

Playing small on defense means you better have guys at 1-3 that can pressure the ball and make entry passes difficult.
 

mgbreeze

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Weird, I was just thinking about Tanner Borchardt.... as an offensive tackle! Huh? Huh? You can thank me later Frost.

Seriously, I hope someone steps up because our tendency to get in foul trouble (Roby) could be a real achilles heel this year if the roster is thin after 6.
 
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Harry Caray

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I honestly do not think this roster is thin on the bench.

We don't have a true backup point guard. Our backup guards are Akenten and Thor, neither of which did anything last year, and true freshman Amir Harris. Another freshman, Karrington Davis, is out for the year with an injury.

Watson and Allen are going to have play a lot together at the same time, it is not ideal to have two undersized guards in your backcourt in the Big Ten. We also don't have a true post presence, Heiman is not physically ready to play and Borchardt isn't a Big Ten player. We have 4 very talented guys on the roster, but otherwise not much talent behind them.
 

chicolby

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Golden State has three of the best shooters the game has ever seen on their team. Not sure you can use that comparison...

As for a big man, we don't need a big man for offensive purposes. We need a big man to anchor the defensive end. We took a few close losses last season that would have put us in the tournament if we won them. We lost those games mainly because the opposing team's big man scored almost at will down low.
I'm not claiming Nebraska as the equivalent of Golden State for obvious purposes. I merely was explaining how a team can play small on offense and still survive defensive deficiencies due to the advantage gained on offense. I think Allen (if he starts) is going to be a significant upgrade in shooting talent over Gill last season. I believe Palmer will continue to improve his shooting along with a steady shot in Cope. While not the "big 3" for Golden State, these three are formidable. If Watson can figure out his stroke (not banking on it, but would be a nice surprise), then you're talking about having weapons everywhere on offense.

Nebraska held their own against opponents when they went to the smaller line-up because they were faster and doubled down effectively.

I'll just reiterate again, a team does not require a traditional big man to win in basketball these days.
 

JohnRossEwing

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We don't have a true backup point guard. Our backup guards are Akenten and Thor, neither of which did anything last year, and true freshman Amir Harris. Another freshman, Karrington Davis, is out for the year with an injury.

Watson and Allen are going to have play a lot together at the same time, it is not ideal to have two undersized guards in your backcourt in the Big Ten. We also don't have a true post presence, Heiman is not physically ready to play and Borchardt isn't a Big Ten player. We have 4 very talented guys on the roster, but otherwise not much talent behind them.

Exactly...Basically when Watson comes out...Palmer will have to essentially be the PG for the team.

And like you said, that Tanner cat is going to hurt more than help.
 

Headcard

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Exactly...Basically when Watson comes out...Palmer will have to essentially be the PG for the team.

And like you said, that Tanner cat is going to hurt more than help.
I don't think Palmer will the handle the ball when Watson is out. I think it will initially be Allen and eventually Harris.
 
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If Roby takes Miles advice to heart, he will be looking to score a lot more than he did last year. Roby has stated in a couple of interviews that Miles and he had a series of discussions where Miles pointed out that last year Roby was actually selfish in failing to be more offensive minded. Roby actually hurt the team by not taking advantage of the opportunities he had to score. And Roby said he is trying to apply that lesson this year to his offensive game.
 

Harry Caray

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Harris isn't really a true point guard. He's more of a wing player. We have a point guard coming next year to take over, but we don't have a true backup point guard this year.
 
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Brady Heiman 6-10 from Springfield Nebraska is one option at center/forward and JC Dedoch Chan..

One weakness this season is quality coming off the bench..
If NU has to rely on Heiman very much, either NU is in big trouble or Heiman has made huge strides in the last few months. Not saying he cant/won't be a fine D1 player someday, but he has a long way to go IMO.
 
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9and4_rivals188421

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I'll wait and see on Harris, but here's the scouting report:
Not a good shooter, but a slasher who can get to the hoop. (Not a point guard)
Good handles and ups. (Point guard plus)
Great length and lateral quickness. (A mismatch against other point guards)

Glynn's likely to see 28-30 mpg this year, with those other 10-12 minutes going to Allen (the likely starter at the 2 spot) and Harris. Harris will play a role.
 
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No disrespect, but I disagree with your statement. I think these two work so well together for exactly the reason you stated. Palmer is an alpha and Roby isn't. Roby is great at effort plays, tip-ins, and blocked shots. He will fill up a stat sheet without shooting 20 times per game. And that's where his value lies.

Regarding the people who have concerns over size, I present the Golden State Warriors. They go most games without the big body that their opponents have, but they turn that into their advantage on the offensive side.

If Nebraska can pass the ball effectively (e.g., swing the ball and find the open man), a 7 footer would be dead against this offense.

Will be very interesting to see how it all shakes out, but I'm hopeful for a (very) successful season.
Golden State is dangerous because they can spread the court and beat you anywhere. NU needs to do that too. The three point shot needs to go down this year.
 

Dean Pope

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Who the heck will be playing down low ? With Okie dokie gone we don't have anyone to guard 7'0 centers. Any new players going to add depth to this years team?

Starters
Watson 6'0
Copeland 6'9
Palmer 6'6
Allan 6'1
Roby 6'8
Miles is just like Doc. Loves the small lineup and doesn’t know the first thing about how to develop or use a good big man.
 

HUSKERFAN66

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Miles is just like Doc. Loves the small lineup and doesn’t know the first thing about how to develop or use a good big man.
Afraid you are right. I don't think you can ever be better than an above average team like that. The really good teams will expose that weakness.
 

artguy68

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Basketball is in a new era. Gone are the days of Patrick Ewing and Hakeem Olajuwon. These are the days of athletic 3-point shooters and point forwards. Of teams 6'4" to 6'8" who can run and jump. Having a small, quick point guard and a big, sky-scraping center is no longer a must. Sure, certain line ups will give us fits, but we will, in turn, give most of their line ups fits.

Just please, nobody get hurt.