Are we even recuiting a center?

King Kong

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For gods' sake after the past 4 weeks I hope this staff knows they need an o-line. You can have as many speedy scatt backs and wide receivers as you want but they are useless without on o-line. We haven't had a center since we played for conference championships.
 

knightwxc5000

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For gods' sake after the past 4 weeks I hope this staff knows they need an o-line. You can have as many speedy scatt backs and wide receivers as you want but they are useless without on o-line. We haven't had a center since we played for conference championships.
You should write a strongly worded letter to the staff and let them know that o-line is important. I doubt most D1 football coaches know that. Thanks for solving the code to good football.
 

Harry Caray

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It seems like other than Bland, all of the linemen we are recruiting are 6'7/6'8. Seems like we could use more interior linemen who are mobile enough for this offense.
 

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I know Farniok was a highly decorated recruit, so maybe he just needs to play a different position.
 

dinglefritz

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I know Farniok was a highly decorated recruit, so maybe he just needs to play a different position.
And he's still only a sophomore. Part of the issue is that we really didn't recruit OTs very well for the past 5 years other than Jaimes. Farniok could still develop in to a decent OT but the NFL would look at him and say he's a guard.
 
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And he's still only a sophomore. Part of the issue is that we really didn't recruit OTs very well for the past 5 years other than Jaimes. Farniok could still develop in to a decent OT but the NFL would look at him and say he's a guard.

I don't mean to call you out @dinglefritz but who cares what the NFL sees him at. At the high school level, we put the best 5 linemen on the field regardless of position and we make it work. Shouldn't we be doing the same in college?

Our job is to win high school games. If Bobby is playing tackle it is because he is our best lineman and we need him at tackle. We aren't going to sacrifice a game or a season so Bobby can look good for the college coaches. Hell he may never make it to the college level.

I do believe we need to recruit true tackles, but what the NFL sees Farniok at, would be very far down my list as a coach.

Sorry in advance if I misunderstood your point.
 

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I don't mean to call you out @dinglefritz but who cares what the NFL sees him at. At the high school level, we put the best 5 linemen on the field regardless of position and we make it work. Shouldn't we be doing the same in college?

Our job is to win high school games. If Bobby is playing tackle it is because he is our best lineman and we need him at tackle. We aren't going to sacrifice a game or a season so Bobby can look good for the college coaches. Hell he may never make it to the college level.

I do believe we need to recruit true tackles, but what the NFL sees Farniok at, would be very far down my list as a coach.

Sorry in advance if I misunderstood your point.
I think you're right. It's kind of like worrying about the point spread which has nothing to do with anything other than making money for bookies.
 

dinglefritz

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I don't mean to call you out @dinglefritz but who cares what the NFL sees him at. At the high school level, we put the best 5 linemen on the field regardless of position and we make it work. Shouldn't we be doing the same in college?

Our job is to win high school games. If Bobby is playing tackle it is because he is our best lineman and we need him at tackle. We aren't going to sacrifice a game or a season so Bobby can look good for the college coaches. Hell he may never make it to the college level.

I do believe we need to recruit true tackles, but what the NFL sees Farniok at, would be very far down my list as a coach.

Sorry in advance if I misunderstood your point.
I'm just saying that most people say that Farniok's best position is not at OT. That's all. That's from listening to the opinions of former NU linemen and commentators I respect. Personally I don't know enough about it to offer a personal opinion that means jack squat. I agree that he's playing OT because he's the best we've got to play that position right now.
 

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Qvale started off at NU as a guard and then moved to tackle, and repeated this process with the Jets (at least per Wikipedia). So it would seem that some Olinemen are routinely evaluated to see where they provide the best fit for the team, not the best fit for them. Didn't Sterup move from tackle to guard to file a need?
When a kid who plays tackle better than Farniok shows up, Farniok can move inside.
 

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Center is always a difficult position to recruit. normally you recruit a guard or a tackle and try to develop one. Let’s put it this way, for center 247 has 2 5 star, 1 4 star, and the rest are 3 stars or less. It takes a lot to be center in college football and most kids who play center in HS aren’t probably good enough to play it in college. Hard to really project someone can develop into that.

Having said that, after seeing & readying the reactions, especially coach Austin & Beckton, I think Cam is the future and the future looks amazing. Just look at the way Austin’s face lights up when he talks about him vs when he’s talking about the current guys on the line. His face lights up when he’s speaking of Cam, and in a way I don’t see when he speaks about anyone else. And I think the best thing they can do is RS him and develop him to be a 4 year starter @ center.
 
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For gods' sake after the past 4 weeks I hope this staff knows they need an o-line. You can have as many speedy scatt backs and wide receivers as you want but they are useless without on o-line. We haven't had a center since we played for conference championships.

Were going to have the baddest center in the B1G next year. HCSF talked about this.
 

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Didn’t ya read what Frost said... we have a Dave Rimmington on campus, hailing from Beatrice


Gonna pull and be a destroyer
He might be more athletic at 290 than alot of the linebackers in the BIG.
 

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Didn’t ya read what Frost said... we have a Dave Rimmington on campus, hailing from Beatrice
I’m really not sure of your point but your post reads as if it’s condescending. Almost like being from Beatrice is a problem maybe. you do realize Rimington was from Omaha himself.
 

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Hope so. I’m cooling on hyperbole, in favor of seeing it

Yeah, I agree. I read about it and a guy never lives up to his accolades bu the media and coaching staff. I always drink the koolaid. I'll try to remain skeptical next season. It will save me from looking foolish. I like to read what I like to hear.
 
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I’m really not sure of your point but your post reads as if it’s condescending. Almost like being from Beatrice is a problem maybe. you do realize Rimington was from Omaha himself.

I think hes telling yo dampen your expectations on players success based on coachspeak. I like hyperbole too much. Let's see what happens. He has to win the job before he can do anything.
 
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I'm just saying that most people say that Farniok's best position is not at OT. That's all. That's from listening to the opinions of former NU linemen and commentators I respect. Personally I don't know enough about it to offer a personal opinion that means jack squat. I agree that he's playing OT because he's the best we've got to play that position right now.

I thought he looked pretty good against Rashan Gary (Michigan) on a couple of plays. He completely stoned him on pass pro. (I wish I had more time to watch the tapes.)
 

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I’m really not sure of your point but your post reads as if it’s condescending. Almost like being from Beatrice is a problem maybe. you do realize Rimington was from Omaha himself.
Not a thing wrong w/Beatrice or Omaha.
 

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I thought he looked pretty good against Rashan Gary (Michigan) on a couple of plays. He completely stoned him on pass pro. (I wish I had more time to watch the tapes.)


I like our tackles and Wilson.
 

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So we are going to burn the future just to win a couple games next season with a JuCo center? Not a fan of starting JuCos when freshman could get valuable experience
 
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Hope so. I’m cooling on hyperbole, in favor of seeing it
I'm sure everything possible will be done to keep you happy. Even now Frost is probably saying " Full speed ahead, cecilB IS GETTING ANTSY". Austin will double his efforts if he gets wind that you are cooling on hyperbole. My only question , what took you so long to say something ? We could have had things rolling in the right direction weeks ago if they thought cecilB was demanding results. o_O
 

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So we are going to burn the future just to win a couple games next season with a JuCo center? Not a fan of starting JuCos when freshman could get valuable experience
We better start winning some games soon. We don't really have the luxury just to start stockpiling for the future. This isn't the NFL where you get higher draft picks if you tank the season. In college football winning begets winning. Not to mention with as bad as our O line is, I think both Jurgens and Bland are going to have to play next year and I don't think it's going to be at the same position.
 
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Many of the problems on the OLine come from gaffs in communication and knowing who to block on a particular play. Both guys that have played that are playing that position are “struggling” in that aspect and have only played in the offense for 10 months. We lose both guys for next year but somehow, a JUCO Guard or a converted TE are going to pick this up in the same amount of time?
 

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I'm sure everything possible will be done to keep you happy. Even now Frost is probably saying " Full speed ahead, cecilB IS GETTING ANTSY". Austin will double his efforts if he gets wind that you are cooling on hyperbole. My only question , what took you so long to say something ? We could have had things rolling in the right direction weeks ago if they thought cecilB was demanding results. o_O
No comprende
 

BigB87

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Many of the problems on the OLine come from gaffs in communication and knowing who to block on a particular play. Both guys that have played that are playing that position are “struggling” in that aspect and have only played in the offense for 10 months. We lose both guys for next year but somehow, a JUCO Guard or a converted TE are going to pick this up in the same amount of time?

I think people underestimate the intelligence and thinking that actually goes into playing on the Oline. There's a reason that OT and C actually rank above QBs on average when it comes to Wonderlic scores at the draft.
 

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Many of the problems on the OLine come from gaffs in communication and knowing who to block on a particular play. Both guys that have played that are playing that position are “struggling” in that aspect and have only played in the offense for 10 months. We lose both guys for next year but somehow, a JUCO Guard or a converted TE are going to pick this up in the same amount of time?

A JUCO guard is more of a stretch, but Jurgens will have a ton of time. He has almost 3 months of practices now to focus on the new position in time to be ready for winter S&C and then Spring ball and all of the summer. That's a huge amount of time to get prepped and he's a smart kid to start with -- not to mention, it's clear that he's a priority for the OL coaches.

The guys who are playing now had multiple years in another blocking system with different rules, instructions and coaching, and really didn't get coaching until the spring (depending on how you view the winter scheduled workouts). IMO a few of them are also not the greatest fits for this system.
 

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So next year, the Oline starters will be Jaimes, Bland, Cam J, Wilson, and Farniok.
 

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So next year, the Oline starters will be Jaimes, Bland, Cam J, Wilson, and Farniok.
That is possible. Could also get a JUCO OT and move Farniok inside. Bland could start at center. Will Farniok, Raridon or Miller, could start at center, with Bland at OG or on the bench.

Really the only known quantities we have right now are Wilson, Jaimes and Farniok. I think they hope Bland is the real deal and can start right away, but no way to know until he gets here. I think they also hope Cam J will be a great interior OL, but no way to know yet.
 
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A JUCO guard is more of a stretch, but Jurgens will have a ton of time. He has almost 3 months of practices now to focus on the new position in time to be ready for winter S&C and then Spring ball and all of the summer. That's a huge amount of time to get prepped and he's a smart kid to start with -- not to mention, it's clear that he's a priority for the OL coaches.

The guys who are playing now had multiple years in another blocking system with different rules, instructions and coaching, and really didn't get coaching until the spring (depending on how you view the winter scheduled workouts). IMO a few of them are also not the greatest fits for this system.

So Conrad and Farmer are stupid and aren't priorities? They were here for all of spring and all summer. Both were recruited for a spread offense by Beck and Pelini.

Jurgens is going to be practicing at TE and Center, so he won't be exclusively at Center.

I think we hear the words Frost says about Jurgens being the next Rimington and everyone jumps the shark.