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Sinomatic

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Ok so I've got this peeve I've been feeding and stroke and let out to go potty every once in a while.

Nebraska has had some great players from Texas, like Turner Gill and Chris Brown. Some good players with heart, like Tommy Armstrong and Rex Burkhead.

But who else has Nebraska recruited out of the state of Texas, while in the Big 12, who were real difference makers, that would justify saying Nebraska is weak because we are no longer in the Big 12 with 4 schools from the State of Texas?

This take just eats at me, and I don't even mind Texas.
 

HuskerHusaria

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Whenever a Texas recruit announces elsewhere, they move to put 1 second on their boards.

Screw them!! Cheater horns down forever!
 

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Nebraska depending onTexas recruiting is a myth. It’s something that’s been spouted off by nation commentators who have no idea what they’re talking about. We never depended on Texas recruiting in general and we never played in the same conference as Texas when we were a top program. There were no Texas teams in the big 8. No matter how many times it gets said, it doesn’t make it true.
 

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I’m probably in the minority, and I have zero evidence to back my opinion, it’s purely anecdotal. But of all the recruiting hot beds, I think Texas and California are the most overrated. All things being equal, I’ll take a Florida kid over a kid from Texas or Cali in a heartbeat.
 

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Aaron Graham was recruited in 92 though, wasn't he? Prior to Texas affiliation.

He was fantastic!
Sorry, wrong Aaron. I was thinking Taylor but put Graham in there. Along with Joe Walker, were on the NC team in 1997, but both were recruited before the merger to the Big 12.
 
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Ok so I've got this peeve I've been feeding and stroke and let out to go potty every once in a while.

Nebraska has had some great players from Texas, like Turner Gill and Chris Brown. Some good players with heart, like Tommy Armstrong and Rex Burkhead.

But who else has Nebraska recruited out of the state of Texas, while in the Big 12, who were real difference makers, that would justify saying Nebraska is weak because we are no longer in the Big 12 with 4 schools from the State of Texas?

This take just eats at me, and I don't even mind Texas.

I’d take it one step further and ask this. Who’d we recruit out our own state? Who’s made a difference in the past 15 years? Without Texas, Cali, where do you go? Please don’t say the 500 mike radius. Those days are over.
 

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I’m probably in the minority, and I have zero evidence to back my opinion, it’s purely anecdotal. But of all the recruiting hot beds, I think Texas and California are the most overrated. All things being equal, I’ll take a Florida kid over a kid from Texas or Cali in a heartbeat.

I have no love of Florida. I really don't care where they are from. I just want the best to play for NU. We used to be a brand name.
 

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Recruiting Texas has never been a staple of NU recruiting. The majority of people who say NU being in the Big Ten hurts them because they can't recruit Texas anymore are either trolls, butt hurt that we left their conference, or "fans" that have no idea what they're talking about.
 
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I have no love of Florida. I really don't care where they are from. I just want the best to play for NU. We used to be a brand name.

True. At the end of the day I don’t care where they’re from either, just come here to compete and win. But since the OP mentioned Texas recruiting, I just thought I would opine. I think we’ve had more high profile recruiting busts come out of Texas and California than any other state. Maybe that’s because they were more heavily recruited in the past, and maybe that’s because we’ve suffered 20 years of poor coaching and player development. Who knows. All I know is that despite the painful start, Frost is going to get it turned around and we will be a brand name once again.
 

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I’d take it one step further and ask this. Who’d we recruit out our own state? Who’s made a difference in the past 15 years? Without Texas, Cali, where do you go? Please don’t say the 500 mike radius. Those days are over.

I'll take it yet another step further and ask what does have to do with the other 48 states in the country if you're wanting to make this a Texas vs Nebraska thing?

But just as an example of a kid in the last 15 years Nebraska whiffed on that had a ton of potential to bevavdifference maker was Danny Woodhead. You know, the pro bowler..

How about Money-Leg Alex Henry?
 
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Sinomatic

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True. At the end of the day I don’t care where they’re from either, just come here to compete and win. But since the OP mentioned Texas recruiting, I just thought I would opine. I think we’ve had more high profile recruiting busts come out of Texas and California than any other state. Maybe that’s because they were more heavily recruited in the past, and maybe that’s because we’ve suffered 20 years of poor coaching and player development. Who knows. All I know is that despite the painful start, Frost is going to get it turned around and we will be a brand name once again.

What I was specifically going for was the thought that we have to be in the same conference as a Texas school in order to be good due to a tie to the state based upon recruiting said state.

I'm saying the difference makers for Nebraska from Texas came PRIOR TO conference affiliation with any university within the state of Texas and in fact not after.
 

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What I was specifically going for was the thought that we have to be in the same conference as a Texas school in order to be good due to a tie to the state based upon recruiting said state.

I'm saying the difference makers for Nebraska from Texas came PRIOR TO conference affiliation with any university within the state of Texas and in fact not after.

I think that’s the misconception of people who really don’t know Nebraska. Nebraska has always recruited well nationally regardless of conference affiliation. It’s a nice media/Big 12 homer talking point that really isn’t true.
 
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Ok so I've got this peeve I've been feeding and stroke and let out to go potty every once in a while.

Nebraska has had some great players from Texas, like Turner Gill and Chris Brown. Some good players with heart, like Tommy Armstrong and Rex Burkhead.

But who else has Nebraska recruited out of the state of Texas, while in the Big 12, who were real difference makers, that would justify saying Nebraska is weak because we are no longer in the Big 12 with 4 schools from the State of Texas?

This take just eats at me, and I don't even mind Texas.
Chris Brown?
 

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I’d take it one step further and ask this. Who’d we recruit out our own state? Who’s made a difference in the past 15 years? Without Texas, Cali, where do you go? Please don’t say the 500 mike radius. Those days are over.
I'll take it even a step further than that. What Texas recruit has made a difference in the past 12 years for Texas?? Without Texas, where does Texas go? Please don't say Texas. Those Texas days are over.
 

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Google is our friend:

https://dataomaha.com/huskers/state/TX

Some real difference makers: Aaron Taylor, Keyou Craver, Aaron Graham, Broderick Thomas, Junior Miller....

In looking at this... kind of weird to me, besides Rex Burkhead.. seems like our best players from Texas came from BEFORE we were in a conference with four Texas teams.
Yes, thank you....people keep saying how our "lost Texas connection" was the downfall.... the data doesnt say that at all. Total nonsense.
 

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Tom Osborne has made some monumental mistakes since retiring as coach. His biggest will be the part he played in moving the team from the big 12. Losing all rivalries and losing recruiting in Texas, will damage us majorly. For one, creating generational fans is so much harder without historical rivals, creating interest for an unranked game is so much harder now. We could be going against Kst..who we hate with a passion, instead we get northwestern and we mow the lawn instead. And then of course trying to recruit kansas, missouri, texas, colorado... when those families can't watch their kids easily and have no regional ties to us. How many great players came from those states? If anything dooms us in the future it will be the move to the big 10, and the catch up game we have to play against the conference dominators.
 

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Tom Osborne has made some monumental mistakes since retiring as coach. His biggest will be the part he played in moving the team from the big 12. Losing all rivalries and losing recruiting in Texas, will damage us majorly. For one, creating generational fans is so much harder without historical rivals, creating interest for an unranked game is so much harder now. We could be going against Kst..who we hate with a passion, instead we get northwestern and we mow the lawn instead. And then of course trying to recruit kansas, missouri, texas, colorado... when those families can't watch their kids easily and have no regional ties to us. How many great players came from those states? If anything dooms us in the future it will be the move to the big 10, and the catch up game we have to play against the conference dominators.

That is a wall of assumptions.
 

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Sorry, wrong Aaron. I was thinking Taylor but put Graham in there. Along with Joe Walker, were on the NC team in 1997, but both were recruited before the merger to the Big 12.
Aaron Graham graduated in 95
 

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Tom Osborne has made some monumental mistakes since retiring as coach. His biggest will be the part he played in moving the team from the big 12. Losing all rivalries and losing recruiting in Texas, will damage us majorly. For one, creating generational fans is so much harder without historical rivals, creating interest for an unranked game is so much harder now. We could be going against Kst..who we hate with a passion, instead we get northwestern and we mow the lawn instead. And then of course trying to recruit kansas, missouri, texas, colorado... when those families can't watch their kids easily and have no regional ties to us. How many great players came from those states? If anything dooms us in the future it will be the move to the big 10, and the catch up game we have to play against the conference dominators.
This was a reason I didn't want Mizzou to go to the B1G the teams you play are just not exciting.

I hated losing the rivalries we had in the Big 8 and Big 12.

At least in the SEC I'm enjoying the schedule we get to play every year. And we are slowly building some good rivalries with Arkansas, Tennessee, and South Carolina.

The B1G would have killed our recruiting. You guys at least have the national name to recruit off of. We need to be close to some fertile grounds which we are now in the SEC to survive.
 

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That is a wall of assumptions.

How? We have been on a slow decline talent and record wise since the move was made, that is quantitative and objective fact. We have barely cracked the top 25 in total revenue since the move, another quantitative fact, and we have had three coaches since the move, when in the previous 30 years we only had 4. We have had to play an unbalanced schedule, with multiple back to back road games, once to Madison and Columbus in back to back weeks...as bad as Texas was...we never had to sacrifice a season because of schedule. Had we stayed in the big 12 would have dominated recruiting in missouri, kansas, colorado, iowa, and maybe pulled some from texas still...and been decent....and at least been able to kick kst and missouri's butt every year.
 

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How? We have been on a slow decline talent and record wise since the move was made, that is quantitative and objective fact. We have barely cracked the top 25 in total revenue since the move, another quantitative fact, and we have had three coaches since the move, when in the previous 30 years we only had 4. We have had to play an unbalanced schedule, with multiple back to back road games, once to Madison and Columbus in back to back weeks...as bad as Texas was...we never had to sacrifice a season because of schedule. Had we stayed in the big 12 would have dominated recruiting in missouri, kansas, colorado, iowa, and maybe pulled some from texas still...and been decent....and at least been able to kick kst and missouri's butt every year.

The quantitative fact is that recruiting Texas was no better, in fact it was worse talent wise, being in the same conference with a host of Texas schools than it ever was while Nebraska was in the Big 8.


CFB isn't going back.

Texas and OU were threatening to leave.

CU was ALREADY GONE bro.

MU was petitioning the Big ten and with expansion limits not known it was either fire both barrels or hope to get in some other conference.

And guess what.....restructuring of CFB isn't even done yet...

Wall of assumptions is absolutely correct because the end hasn't been seen yet. But you know what has thus far.....Texas recruiting post B12 did not produce results like prior to.

That was all that I was saying, because some talking heads out there talk like Texas recruiting MADE Nebraska. Which is garbage.
 

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Weak. Conference hasn't affected Ohio State's ability to recruit Texas. Landing a lot of the top 10 players from Texas in recent years, including this years #2.
 
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Weak. Conference hasn't affected Ohio State's ability to recruit Texas. Landing a lot of the top 10 players from Texas in recent years, including this years #2.

Winning does that for the name teams..
 

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I'll take it even a step further than that. What Texas recruit has made a difference in the past 12 years for Texas?? Without Texas, where does Texas go? Please don't say Texas. Those Texas days are over.

Want to bet who’s a top 20 team first? Crickets.
 

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Want to bet who’s a top 20 team first? Crickets.