We have a winnable game ...

Harry Caray

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I'd like to see him say that to Frost's face, not behind his back as he walks away.
 

Ewooc

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Yeah, I understand what Frost is trying to do. It revolves around trying to motivate his team. Some times it also motivates the other team as well. Yes with as bad as we are, we don't need other teams to be extra motivated to beat us.
 

timnsun

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I thought we hashed this out all last week… What was Frost supposed to say? He’s trying to keep his team afloat, trying to instill confidence in them. What should he have said? And please don’t say he shouldn’t have said anything…
 

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The officials said it wasn’t.

But on a serious note, it was winnable. If you need side motivation to beat an 0-3 team, it was definitely a winnable game.
 
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jlb321_rivals110621

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I thought we hashed this out all last week… What was Frost supposed to say? He’s trying to keep his team afloat, trying to instill confidence in them. What should he have said? And please don’t say he shouldn’t have said anything…

He absolutely should have said he expects to win this game ... in the locker room, not at the podium. At the podium you can simply say we have a quality opponent this week which we need to be prepared for.

There is a difference between what you say in the locker room and what you say at the podium.
 

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OP, you speak the truth. Folks don't always like it, but you're pretty spot on most of the time.
 

timnsun

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He absolutely should have said he expects to win this game ... in the locker room, not at the podium. At the podium you can simply say we have a quality opponent this week which we need to be prepared for.

There is a difference between what you say in the locker room and what you say at the podium.
This is a good point, but I still don’t see that what he said was that big of a deal. Obviously Purdue players and coaches latched onto it and made it a big deal, so it is what it is.
 

jlb321_rivals110621

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This is a good point, but I still don’t see that what he said was that big of a deal. Obviously Purdue players and coaches latched onto it and made it a big deal, so it is what it is.

As adults it is clearly ridiculous ... kids, on the other hand have been known to draw their glocks if they perceive being “disrespected”
 
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Enjoy your stay. I’m sure it will be short-lived.

But I'm sure he'll be back. It's about his 3rd or 4th reincarnation.
 

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But I'm sure he'll be back. It's about his 3rd or 4th reincarnation.
It makes you wonder what kind of life someone has if their goal is to troll other fans’ boards.

I suppose I could understand getting banned once. But then to go back repeatedly all need to be banned again and again… I just don’t get it.
 

Headcard

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Yep they weren’t going to give any effort until the opposing coach said it was a winnable game. He should have said his team had no chance.
 
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What's missing here is the context of the statement Frost made in the post-UM game press conference. First he said, Nebraska isn't ready to compete with a good team like UM. Then he immediately followed that by saying, "next week we have a winnable game." I've never heard a Purdue coach say anything so obviously disrespectful in that context, regardless of the quality of the next opponent. For those who are challenged in terms of interpreting conversational subtlety: Frost implied his next opponent (Purdue) couldn't compete with the one that just kicked his *** (UM)! Maybe so, in truth, but saying that to the media is the definition of locker room material for the next opponent. So you don't say it unless you have zero respect for the ability of your next opponent. Did Purdue win because Frost said it? I doubt it -- Purdue probably would have won the game, regardless. But did the Purdue players and coaches use it for motivation, to help them focus and sustain effort when trying to hold the lead in the 4th Q? Absolutely!
 
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What's missing here is the context of the statement Frost made in the post-UM game press conference. First he said, Nebraska isn't ready to compete with a good team like UM. Then he immediately followed that by saying, "next week we have a winnable game." I've never heard a Purdue coach say anything so obviously disrespectful in that context, regardless of the quality of the next opponent. For those who are challenged in terms of interpreting conversational subtlety: Frost implied his next opponent (Purdue) couldn't compete with the one that just kicked his *** (UM)! Maybe so, in truth, but saying that to the media is the definition of locker room material for the next opponent. So you don't say it unless you have zero respect for the ability of your next opponent. Did Purdue win because Frost said it? I doubt it -- Purdue probably would have won the game, regardless. But did the Purdue players and coaches use it for motivation, to help them focus and sustain effort when trying to hold the lead in the 4th Q? Absolutely!

This. Not sure why Nebraska fans have had such a hard time understanding that the context, and not the statement taken out of context, made it disrespectful.
 

timnsun

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This. Not sure why Nebraska fans have had such a hard time understanding that the context, and not the statement taken out of context, made it disrespectful.
I would venture to guess many fans are like me who didn’t get the context. All I heard was frost saying it was a winnable game. I didn’t know the context.

Fair enough.
 

Ewooc

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What's missing here is the context of the statement Frost made in the post-UM game press conference. First he said, Nebraska isn't ready to compete with a good team like UM. Then he immediately followed that by saying, "next week we have a winnable game." I've never heard a Purdue coach say anything so obviously disrespectful in that context, regardless of the quality of the next opponent. For those who are challenged in terms of interpreting conversational subtlety: Frost implied his next opponent (Purdue) couldn't compete with the one that just kicked his *** (UM)! Maybe so, in truth, but saying that to the media is the definition of locker room material for the next opponent. So you don't say it unless you have zero respect for the ability of your next opponent. Did Purdue win because Frost said it? I doubt it -- Purdue probably would have won the game, regardless. But did the Purdue players and coaches use it for motivation, to help them focus and sustain effort when trying to hold the lead in the 4th Q? Absolutely!
This was blown way out of proportions and kudos to the coach using it to motivate his players. Every thing Frost said was 100% truth, doesn't matter what context you try to spin on it. We weren't ready to play with Mich. We had winnable game. Lets face Purdue is no world beater this year and haven't been, ever. This was a very winnable game for Nebraska, especially at home. It is what it is. Like I said if your team was able to to use something so small and get motivation out of it, congrats. Maybe next time Frost should just say, this next team is going to put up 100 on us to make sure not to hurt the other teams feelings.
 

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But this Purdue team was in fact 14 points better than you. By the way you’re into Purdue history.

In 1997, joe tiller showed up. Think Nebraska has been down in recruiting? Tiller might have had ten three star caliber players on his roster. The culture under Colletto was awful, causing tiller to kick double digit players out of town. His QB, Billy Dicken, has thrown for 1000 yards in two seasons.

He went 9-3. Put that in your pipe and smoke it while you throw frost a pity party. His best players were Brian Alford and Roosevelt Colvin.. remember that this week while you cry “frost can’t” “we’ve only signed 30 four stars the last four years”

Go back to Ohio States first title under tressel and I’d be willing to bet Ohio State hadn’t signed 30 four stars in four years

Your team won, dude. Lighten up.
 

Larry Hagman's Liver

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Bitter winner! highly doubt they make a bowl and good possibility there coach moves on

Bitter indeed. And this is a fan of a team NU has played seven times total in history and never during our glory years. I get why Iowa, Colorado and others would take their shots. But we really don't have any history to speak of with Purdue one way or the other.

That said, we live in a world where a seemingly innocuous comment becomes bulletin board material and at least one player gets butthurt enough to talk **** to an opposing coach behind his back when he's not looking or listing. Whatever.
 

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Why doesn't Purdue's Coach say stupid stuff to the media? Oh yeah, I forgot, there is no media covering Purdue football. The tree doesn't make a sound if there's no one there to hear it.

It was a dumb thing for Frost to say. I'm sure he learned from it. Meanwhile Nick Holt has been a Coach since 1986 and he's still the biggest jackass in football next to Bo Pelini. The funniest thing I've seen this season is that Purdue has a guy whose job is to hold on to Holt's belt to keep him off the field.
 
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Why doesn't Purdue's Coach say stupid stuff to the media? Oh yeah, I forgot, there is no media covering Purdue football. The tree doesn't make a sound if there's no one there to hear it.

It was a dumb thing for Frost to say. I'm sure he learned from it. Meanwhile Nick Holt has been a Coach since 1986 and he's still the biggest jackass in football next to Bo Pelini. The funniest thing I've seen this season is that Purdue has a guy whose job is to hold on to Holt's belt to keep him off the field.

He probably makes $100,000 a year to do that. I would take that job. lol
 

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I still don't get this mentality. He was literally just stating a fact. How weak are people's egos these days?
In terms of Brohm, pretty weak. His passive aggressive comment as he's walking away was skim milk too. Grow up and act like you've been there before. Oh wait...
 

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What do you mean “these days”? The lack of respect motivation card has been played successfully since the beginning of organized football. Football is an ego sport, why do you think every play is followed by preening, jawing etc?

You don’t provide bulletin board quotes period. Coaching 101. Or, as a wise man once said “your mouth is writing checks your *** can’t cash.” The irony is I’m sure Frost meant no disrespect, it just wasn’t stated well.
 
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I didn't have much of a problem with him saying it was a "winnable" game because it was. That being said. You can't get all butthurt when you lose and then get called on it.
 

Ewooc

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What do you mean “these days”? The lack of respect motivation card has been played successfully since the beginning of organized football. Football is an ego sport, why do you think every play is followed by preening, jawing etc?

You don’t provide bulletin board quotes period. Coaching 101. Or, as a wise man once said “your mouth is writing checks your *** can’t cash.” The irony is I’m sure Frost meant no disrespect, it just wasn’t stated well.
I don't think he said it with the intent to disrespect anyone. It was more said as truth and a way to stay positive for the fans and the players. Although Purdue took it as disrespect and a direct attack on them. I can also see that as well. I am guessing Nebraska would have taken it the same way if situations were reversed.
 

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What do you mean “these days”? The lack of respect motivation card has been played successfully since the beginning of organized football. Football is an ego sport, why do you think every play is followed by preening, jawing etc?

You don’t provide bulletin board quotes period. Coaching 101. Or, as a wise man once said “your mouth is writing checks your *** can’t cash.” The irony is I’m sure Frost meant no disrespect, it just wasn’t stated well.

If saying a game is winnable is a lack of respect, then the disrespect bar is way lower than it should be.