Interesting comment from Tanner Farmer
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We went up tempo with 3 minutes to go in the game, with a walkon QB and a lead against Colorado.
Just sayin’
Just sayin’
People say hit somebody, but you know what your talking about. I just wanted to say, I'm listening.
At about 1:05.
This must be the play in question. It seems without out a doubt that Jaimes glanced just for a millisecond to see #29. So his man beat him inside. Foster also whiffed on his man. But there is no doubt #29, unblocked flew to the QB. I'll add that I am guessing for the moment that the o-line splits are not small. So even a call to shift a man left may have been difficult.
A more seasoned quarterback could have taken advantage of the alignment, and audibled out but with the porous line who knows.The line will have to do better though. Watching it again it was almost like setting up for a screen.
On the defense from what I watched the d-end maintained outside control, but the safety and olb were sucked inside. Hopefully a lot of teaching goes on this week. It's all teachable. I'm not saying we should have beat Michigan, but they sure didn't help themselves. I'm kind of disappointed in the older guys.
Agree, why tf are we interviewing these kids. Interview the coaches and leave it at that. These guys will be gone in a fews years and forgotten, let them live their lives, play their hearts out, and move on All these weird old men with the microphones manipulating them for titbits is weird as hell. Frosty needs to make players off limits and do the talking himself for a while.
It's no wonder Bo hated the local "stick a microphone up your crotch" Nebraska news media
Farmer shouldn't be blamed for the tipped pass.
That missed TD is on Martinez. He should have been patient and thrown it deeper. Nice script.
But why does it have to go to **** after that, instantly? I don't get it.
I think that was actually a great play by michigan,
I don't really blame farmer or martinez for that one
Watch the complete mental dedication to putting somebody on their ***...
Bo-Bot.
Kids like David and Suh. This other **** has to stop.
If you suck that bad, clip and hit the DL on the facemask.
At least you can say you tried...
Bo-Bot.
Kids like David and Suh. This other **** has to stop.
If you suck that bad, clip and hit the DL on the facemask.
At least you can say you tried...
We may be playing "up tempo", but it didn't look any faster to me than many other teams. So why can't they get the calls made?
If Nebraska would have thrown big $$$ at Ed Orgeron (sp?) as Recruiting Director now HC at LSU we would have another National Championship.
Because the Center makes O-line calls. I am not attacking our center as a person & he certainly is a better football player than I ever was or could be but he isn't where Nebraska needs him to be. IMO move Farmer over to center and bring in Bo as the other guard. It all starts at the center position.
You play like you practice so you should practice how you want to play. Frost and company cant slow it down or change it because if you do you are changing the expectations and culture you are trying to build. I hate the sink or swim approach but in this situation I think Frost is right. Players are going to have to adjust to him because he has the proven product and its all on him and his coaches. Sometimes the hardest thing to do is continue to fail in the short term knowing that the long term it is being built the right way.
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We need a media blackout, enough talking. Let them talk after they win a couple of games. I'm tired of hearing the BS.
Three losses and I have yet to hear the coaches take some blame. Any. A crumb.
Frost's offensive lines at Oregon and UCF did not seem to have this problem. So it is probably just an issue of experience and reps in the offense. Therefore, in theory, this should get better over time. And that is true for just about any offense.
If Frost were to slow things down in order to accommodate the inexperience his line has with this tempo, then how will they ever learn how to play in this offense?
Sometimes, when you are trying to radically change offensive systems you just have to rip off the bandaid and go with it. Not pretty, but it has to be done. I suppose you could also choose to slowly phase in the new offense but how do you do that with a fast tempo approach? Go fast on some plays but not on others? Go fast on some drives but not on others?
I don't know the answer. I ain't no coach. But Frost has a track record of developing great offenses so I trust his judgement.
If Frost were to slow things down in order to accommodate the inexperience his line has with this tempo, then how will they ever learn how to play in this offense?
Sometimes, when you are trying to radically change offensive systems you just have to rip off the bandaid and go with it. Not pretty, but it has to be done. I suppose you could also choose to slowly phase in the new offense but how do you do that with a fast tempo approach? Go fast on some plays but not on others? Go fast on some drives but not on others?
I don't know the answer. I ain't no coach. But Frost has a track record of developing great offenses so I trust his judgement.
I don't care what he says. Three senior lineman are the core of the o-line and they have been getting their butts handed to them.
I could be wrong but I do seem to recall Frost saying the usual coach speak about "needing to coach better" after each of our losses.
OL play is about the most complicated thing in the field. The big uglies also tend to be among the smartest guys on the field (or should be)
Nope it's easy, just hit somebody. Doesn't matter if you decide to go rogue and hit the wrong guy. Don't let the guy on the end go unblocked, it's is much better to let one of the LBs come in untouched or the DL lined up in the A gap.
Some people need to take a refresher on offensive football.
Then we have the board's version of Otis from the Andy Griffith Show, coming on here, talking to himself for a bit each evening.
Then there is the power football, minimal passing and no option guy. ha ha ha
Frost has came out and said that they need to put those kids in better situations at times.
Truth is, just because you haven’t heard it doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened. Many others have attested that the coaches have pointed the thumb.
interested in your opinion about tempo .. I realize this staff wants to play fast tempo and I understand the potential benefits of his approach. It seems to me, however, that you should be able to mix tempos and be able to slow the speed of play when it is advantageous to do so - ie running the clock when ahead late in the 4th quarter.
I acknowledge you lose the advantage of not allowing the defense to substitute, get set. etc when you slow things down, but in some situations you aren't benefiting from an uptempo pace.
The problem is I don't believe we are going up tempo. No where near what UCF was.
I don’t have a problem with it at this point. Certainly they have something to do with it, but the most glaring problem at this point is that much of the team is soft and (apparently) quite emotionally and mentally weak. Frost has a fair amount of old school in him, so the message is going to be, get your act together or go some place else.
Do you know how journalism works? Writers get quotes interviewing people so they can "go write a blog or a news column" and maybe "win a Pulitzer."
Interfacing with the media comes with the territory of being a big time college athlete. If you can go head to head with Rashan Gary, Olive Sagapolu, or AJ Epenesa, you can probably field questions from the OWH.
Don't want to be "badgered?" Go play at Doane or Benedictine.
In my "studying" of Frost's offense, the pace quickens when they catch a defense in a bad matchup.
When they catch a team in a bad match up, they go faster so the defense cannot sub out. People see the success and believe it is because they are working fast. Like I said, I think it is the opposite, they are working fast because they had success and want to maintain that advantage. I have been critical of the play calling late against Colorado. I believe if we were having success and had an advantage, I wouldn't have an issue, but we weren't,
I still believe the biggest component missing is the short and intermediate passing game. Without that threat, it is too easy to load the box and create mismatches up front, like Michigan and Troy did. With that short to intermediate passing game, you also have more opportunities to catch the defense in a bad matchup.
I would tend to disagree a little. The number of plays is not that far off of what UCF ran. In 2016 UCF ran right at 75 plays per game, in 2017 that number was 71. Nebraska is averaging 70 plays per game this season so far.
To me, it looks slower because of the run/pass mix. Nebraska is running the ball 62 or 63% of the time, those plays typically appear to be at a slower pace. Mostly because the average run is about 4 yards, where the average pass is about 7-8 yards. Things just look more hurried. IMHO
Tell me where I am confused. Same OL as last year pretty much. Last year it was all coaching and this year OL is made up of horrible talentless players. Okay I think I got it !
And no I do not think the coaching last year was very good. And no I do not think this year is all lack of talent. Right now this team needs a Center and a player than can actually make line calls. Decker would have made a huge difference as he was a good center and a LEADER out there. He was the biggest loss of all.
And no I do not think the coaching last year was very good. And no I do not think this year is all lack of talent. Right now this team needs a Center and a player than can actually make line calls. Decker would have made a huge difference as he was a good center and a LEADER out there. He was the biggest loss of all.
I suggest better listening skills then. Coaches and players do interviews every week. You can find them anywhere online including on Youtube by HOL. A number of times the coaches have taken responsibility, blame or what they have to work on. Player interviews have also attested to that.
So you are wrong, but not only wrong, also lazy in not checking something so trivial to find out. I think it is fair to question any of your statements concerning the team. I'm sure the same kind of laziness and sloppiness applies to your analysis there as well.
Because we've got a young QB and a line inexperienced in the offense. It takes time to process the information and get it relayed. I understand what Farmer said and it makes sense with what we saw on video. It will come with more time in the offense IMO.
Conrad can make the line calls but they are ALL new in this system. As I posted in another thread, Zatecha said that it took the pipeline TWO YEARS to fully get down a change in blocking philosophy that Milt and Tom installed. Same staff, same offense, same players, just a switch from man to zone blocking schemes. We have a new staff AND a completely new play book and schemes. Some problems should be expected but I think we'll see improvement this year and even more next year. This stuff takes time.
Wow, didn't realize that. Thanks for the info. Yeah we seems very slow paced.
Well one of the reasons we're averaging so few plays is that we've had a dearth of first downs with a BUNCH of 3 and outs. IMO we moved the ball much more effectively at UM when we went tempo and that was certainly true against Troy.