How does the offensive playcalling change with Gebbia leaving?

[RealTucoSalamanca]

What is the consensus of the board when it comes to play calling this season? I saw a post in one of the other threads, I think it was @litespeedhuskerfan who inferred that Frost will vanilla up the offense for the Akron game and it got me to thinking.

Will Frost do anything to reduce the chances of Martinez getting hurt, knowing he only has walk on QBs eligible this fall.

Personally, I don't think so, or at least I hope not.

 

[jrhuskerdad_rivals491985]

What is the consensus of the board when it comes to play calling this season? I saw a post in one of the other threads, I think it was @litespeedhuskerfan who inferred that Frost will vanilla up the offense for the Akron game and it got me to thinking.

Will Frost do anything to reduce the chances of Martinez getting hurt, knowing he only has walk on QBs eligible this fall.

Personally, I don't think so, or at least I hope not.

I agree. It's not going to change. Scott's already tempered expectations for this season. It's a growing season as players, especially the young QB, learn the system. No better way to learn than through immersion with live game action and unrestricted play calling.

 

[NikkiSixx_rivals269993]

What is the consensus of the board when it comes to play calling this season? I saw a post in one of the other threads, I think it was @litespeedhuskerfan who inferred that Frost will vanilla up the offense for the Akron game and it got me to thinking.

Will Frost do anything to reduce the chances of Martinez getting hurt, knowing he only has walk on QBs eligible this fall.

Personally, I don't think so, or at least I hope not.

I don't think so. Scott still thinks like a QB, an athlete, a competitor.. Once the bullets start flying, he's going to do his thing. I think they feel pretty good about Bunch too, so you roll with who you got and give it 100% effort and let the chips fall where they may. Coach has to be congruent with his message.

 

[ZJSARENOTFREE]

I don't think so either. I think Frost knows the riches he has at the skill position, and is going to design a plan to get those guys the ball, but make it as easy as he can for Martinez to execute in the beginning to give him confidence and make him comfortable.

 

[inWV]

What is the consensus of the board when it comes to play calling this season? I saw a post in one of the other threads, I think it was @litespeedhuskerfan who inferred that Frost will vanilla up the offense for the Akron game and it got me to thinking.

Will Frost do anything to reduce the chances of Martinez getting hurt, knowing he only has walk on QBs eligible this fall.

Personally, I don't think so, or at least I hope not.

I don't think Frost will do anything that will reduce the probability of winning football games. But I don't think coaching AMart to facilitate the potential of the play makers available to him early in the season is a bad idea. Be intentional about that. Let the game come to the young kid. There will be plenty of time for heroics once conference play starts.

 

[RedMyMind]

Bunch is a capable backup so Frost shouldn't be worried

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

The post you're referring to had me saying this might be the easiest game to game plan against us all year because of our QB situation. Survive and advance. We're going to win, so what's the most important thing at the end of the day? AM's health. I hope he vanilla's it up.

 

[Headcard]

I don't think this staff plays it safe with anything. They will call games like they always do.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

I have been a really bad football coach for a long time now and what I have seen from myself and other coaches is that you coach how you coach. Once the game gets going it is really hard to coach a different way than how you are wired.

For a short time (thank god) I had to call offensive plays and I was super conservative, it is just how I was with calling play on offense. I think it is why teams study so much film, you start to find those tendencies.

So in the end, I think Frost will call the game how he calls all his games. I don't think it will change much.

 

[huskerssalts]

Agreed on our skill players and riches there. Very first game Frost probably should game plan for towards the skill position and let them own Akron and let Martinez get comfortable and used to D1 play. Then as the season progresses, start letting Martinez take more carries and a little more chances here and there. Till then, take advantage of Morgan. Spielman, Lindsey, Bell, Oz, Woodyard, M Washington and all that speed we have on the field. No reason to rush Martinez into anything.

 

[Pennsyhusker_rivals246774]

As far as I am concerned this is not a throw away year. There are no "Mulligans". Quite to the contrary, I think this is a very important year. Frost has mojo and publicity right now. The broader world of college football, while not expecting a run at a B1G title, are expecting to see great improvement. Therefore, while a 5-7 or 6-6 season can be softened by the realization that this is year one, it really would dampen enthusiasm for NU football and Frost by those outside of Nebraska.

I think Frost knows this. I think he wants to hit the ground running. Therefore, Martinez will be used to his fullest, which means using as much of the playbook as is possible.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

My main concern is that young QBs with strong running skills, tend to depend on them when protection breaks down, they don't think they can fit a pass in a tight window, or when they think they can get the first down.

Those aren't necessarily a coaching decision as much as a player decision.

If Martinez is able to distribute the ball effectively and make good decisions, he won't have to depend on his legs as often. But like I said, young QBs have a tendency to revert back.

 

[dand84]

Don't play scared.

 

[bshirt73]

Agreed on our skill players and riches there. Very first game Frost probably should game plan for towards the skill position and let them own Akron and let Martinez get comfortable and used to D1 play. Then as the season progresses, start letting Martinez take more carries and a little more chances here and there. Till then, take advantage of Morgan. Spielman, Lindsey, Bell, Oz, Woodyard, M Washington and all that speed we have on the field. No reason to rush Martinez into anything.

That makes good sense to me. Not for being overly conservative, just let AM cruise & learn as long as we're still winning the out of conference games.

 

[IceHusker]

I don't think it changes the game plan much. You really can't coach scared that a player may get injured if you call certain plays. The only thing you might see is Frost call plays that are going to give his young QB a chance to settle in early in the game. That was going to be the case if TG was still here or not.

 

[bshirt73]

My main concern is that young QBs with strong running skills, tend to depend on them when protection breaks down, they don't think they can fit a pass in a tight window, or when they think they can get the first down.

Those aren't necessarily a coaching decision as much as a player decision.

If Martinez is able to distribute the ball effectively and make good decisions, he won't have to depend on his legs as often. But like I said, young QBs have a tendency to revert back.

Yes, that is scary. I hope for the best......

 

[inWV]

If Martinez is able to distribute the ball effectively and make good decisions, he won't have to depend on his legs as often. But like I said, young QBs have a tendency to revert back.

That's the intentional coaching part. There's a difference between taking a several yards of open grass when it is there and taking on contact. Even a kid with AMart's running skills needs to be told that bailing on a play is sometimes the best option. Especially a kid who has already had shoulder surgery.
However, the tendency to applaud successful improvisation of a playmaker is strong, even among coaches.

 

[Nebraska Fan]

What is the consensus of the board when it comes to play calling this season? I saw a post in one of the other threads, I think it was @litespeedhuskerfan who inferred that Frost will vanilla up the offense for the Akron game and it got me to thinking.

Will Frost do anything to reduce the chances of Martinez getting hurt, knowing he only has walk on QBs eligible this fall.

Personally, I don't think so, or at least I hope not.

I don't believe he will be vanilla by design. There are x formations and plays that will be the core of the offense. He needs to get those called and see how everyone is grasping the base plays.

If he can get to the second and third string guys repeat and repeat.

 

[Husker.Wed._rivals]

He made a comment a while back (can't find it now) that they used a more limited playcall sheet for Milton the first year, then the second year they expanded the playbook. So I don't think they will call plays to limit his exposure to hits, but I think they will have a smaller set of plays than they will next year.

 

[dinglefritz]

My main concern is that young QBs with strong running skills, tend to depend on them when protection breaks down, they don't think they can fit a pass in a tight window, or when they think they can get the first down.

Those aren't necessarily a coaching decision as much as a player decision.

If Martinez is able to distribute the ball effectively and make good decisions, he won't have to depend on his legs as often. But like I said, young QBs have a tendency to revert back.

Hopefully they've been coaching the QBs on the finer points of sliding and not taking unnecessary hits. Listening to Carriker speak this morning about playing with his locker neighbor RG3 in Washington was funny. He told him, "Dude, if you run around like that during games you're going to get hurt". And of course he did. Don't play scared but still play smart.

 

[TheBeav815]

Football is football. You're not any more likely to get a kid hurt having him run than you are having him stand back and throw. Any play somebody can roll up on the back of your leg, you can't call plays scared. If he was afraid of losing QBs he should have dragged out the race until Gebbia was trapped here like Saban is doing at Alabama with this "Co #1" BS he announced with Tua and Hurts. He'll name a starter once it's too late for them to transfer, just you watch.

If you gave this kid the job because of who he is as a runner, then you damn well better run him.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

Football is football. You're not any more likely to get a kid hurt having him run than you are having him stand back and throw. Any play somebody can roll up on the back of your leg, you can't call plays scared. If he was afraid of losing QBs he should have dragged out the race until Gebbia was trapped here like Saban is doing at Alabama with this "Co #1" BS he announced with Tua and Hurts. He'll name a starter once it's too late for them to transfer, just you watch.

If you gave this kid the job because of who he is as a runner, then you damn well better run him.

The running aspect might be more to do with running ability if/when the designed play breaks down or running in critical situations - 3rd and 3.

I personally think that Frost wants to incorporate the QB in the power run game - RB/H back lead blocker for the QB. TO ran this quite a bit with Frost. I think these plans get severely curtailed with the current QB situation. The QB run game gets neutered in non critical situations. I don’t anticipate a lot of 1st and 10, etc designed QB runs.

 

[kaz36_rivals189319]

What is the consensus of the board when it comes to play calling this season? I saw a post in one of the other threads, I think it was @litespeedhuskerfan who inferred that Frost will vanilla up the offense for the Akron game and it got me to thinking.

Will Frost do anything to reduce the chances of Martinez getting hurt, knowing he only has walk on QBs eligible this fall.

Personally, I don't think so, or at least I hope not.

I'm glad that Gebbia wasn't named the starter because he was a passer. This is Nebraska gosh darn it. We run the damn ball here. If be happy if we never passed the ball again.

 

[yunginsNU2]

Wildcat

 

[SilentCommit]

What is the consensus of the board when it comes to play calling this season? I saw a post in one of the other threads, I think it was @litespeedhuskerfan who inferred that Frost will vanilla up the offense for the Akron game and it got me to thinking.

Will Frost do anything to reduce the chances of Martinez getting hurt, knowing he only has walk on QBs eligible this fall.

Personally, I don't think so, or at least I hope not.

I've seen it suggested before that if you differ radically from your practiced scheme, players are more likely to get injured. In a sense then, playcalling conservatively, which is not Scott's M.O., would be more dangerous.

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

We'll probably never know for sure. A reporter may ask about it in post game interview.

 

[GoBluePureMichigan]

Bunch is a capable backup so Frost shouldn't be worried

Respect to you....but I truly cannot connect to your thinking

GBR

 

[HuskerDana_rivals188993]

I'm glad that Gebbia wasn't named the starter because he was a passer. This is Nebraska gosh darn it. We run the damn ball here. If be happy if we never passed the ball again.

We should never run an offense that throws the ball over ten times in a game. Run. The. Damn. Ball! That's what we've been missing!

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

We should never run an offense that throws the ball over ten times in a game. Run. The. Damn. Ball! That's what we've been missing!

Definitely picked the wrong coach if that is what’s been missing. Ha ha

 

[TruHusker]

I don't think a body of evidence is in yet. We don't even know if Adrian can take a hit, much less consistent punishment at this level. Once he gets to the point where is nursing aches and pains and injuries we do not know about, it has to change the play calling. When was the last time a dual threat, running QB managed to make it through 3 -4 years unscathed?

 

[red scowl]

What is the consensus of the board when it comes to play calling this season? I saw a post in one of the other threads, I think it was @litespeedhuskerfan who inferred that Frost will vanilla up the offense for the Akron game and it got me to thinking.

Will Frost do anything to reduce the chances of Martinez getting hurt, knowing he only has walk on QBs eligible this fall.

Personally, I don't think so, or at least I hope not.

I hope it doesn't change playcalling. This isn't a good enough team that you shy away from the calls you would normally make in certain situations.

That being said, our tight ends are going to have some late releases due to chipping.

 

[kaz36_rivals189319]

We should never run an offense that throws the ball over ten times in a game. Run. The. Damn. Ball! That's what we've been missing!

I hope they cut the arms off of all the QB's so they can't ever pass.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

I hope they cut the arms off of all the QB's so they can't ever pass.

Velcro jerseys and felt footballs.

 

[RedMyMind]

Respect to you....but I truly cannot connect to your thinking

GBR

I think he will prove to be a better QB than any since Ganz

 

[z28craz]

The staff has an “attack everything” mentality. If they back off the play calling because their best #2 is really a #3 then players and fans alike will question their “attack everything” resolve. That essentially opens pandora’s box when it comes to the culture Frost is attempting to instill. So my vote is they will not change play calling.

 

[dand84]

My only guess at a concession is that if we are up by a bunch, we see bunch The risk of AM getting hurt will outweigh the benefit of him playing a few more series.

 

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

What is the consensus of the board when it comes to play calling this season? I saw a post in one of the other threads, I think it was @litespeedhuskerfan who inferred that Frost will vanilla up the offense for the Akron game and it got me to thinking.

Will Frost do anything to reduce the chances of Martinez getting hurt, knowing he only has walk on QBs eligible this fall.

Personally, I don't think so, or at least I hope not.

Martinez, definitely will be running a least a few less designed QB run plays.

 

[catch54]

As far as I am concerned this is not a throw away year. There are no "Mulligans". Quite to the contrary, I think this is a very important year. Frost has mojo and publicity right now. The broader world of college football, while not expecting a run at a B1G title, are expecting to see great improvement. Therefore, while a 5-7 or 6-6 season can be softened by the realization that this is year one, it really would dampen enthusiasm for NU football and Frost by those outside of Nebraska.

I think Frost knows this. I think he wants to hit the ground running. Therefore, Martinez will be used to his fullest, which means using as much of the playbook as is possible.

Correct. Not a throw away year. More than anything I want this year is to beat Wisconsin.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

Verduzco has said they will be more judicious with the QB run game in light of the transfer