OT: ACT prep courses

WHCSC

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I already know I will be in the minority.....but what is the purpose of all this? What does your kid want to be?

If it isn’t a lawyer, doctor, or engineer then don’t waste time at college.

I got a 28, 30 and 32 and the biggest mistake I made was going to a University on a full ride scholarship. Wasted 3 years of my life learning how to drink and hate white people.

If your kid is that smart, he is set for life if he has work ethic and figures out what he wants to do.

Meanwhile my brother and sister in law both have masters degrees, were taught to be complete socialists and spend their nights bartending and waitressing. They are the same age as me (30) and make 1/6 of what I make combined.

BE CAREFUL with sending your kids to university these days. It isn’t 1982 anymore.

Don't most high paying jobs (other than trades) require a degree?
 

newAD

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I already know I will be in the minority.....but what is the purpose of all this? What does your kid want to be?

If it isn’t a lawyer, doctor, or engineer then don’t waste time at college.

I got a 28, 30 and 32 and the biggest mistake I made was going to a University on a full ride scholarship. Wasted 3 years of my life learning how to drink and hate white people.

If your kid is that smart, he is set for life if he has work ethic and figures out what he wants to do.

Meanwhile my brother and sister in law both have masters degrees, were taught to be complete socialists and spend their nights bartending and waitressing. They are the same age as me (30) and make 1/6 of what I make combined.

BE CAREFUL with sending your kids to university these days. It isn’t 1982 anymore.

I'm trying to talk this one into trying Pre-law. I think he is considering it.

Believe me, I am very worried about sending my kids to be indoctrinated, er, to college. I've told my oldest who is headed to UNL next year, that there are already a few professors I know of that he will NOT take classes with. I refuse to pay money to support some of these wack jobs.
 

f00tball_fan

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Don't most high paying jobs (other than trades) require a degree?

Sure, they kinda do now....and did in the past.

But the price of a degree is skyrocketing and its value is plummeting. With how many kids we have that are now pushed into college, a college degree is nothing special.

It won't separate you from the pack.

As a business owner, the last thing I care about when I hire you is your college degree. And I think more and more businesses will follow suit in the future. If a company hires based on a degree they are wasting money. Hiring in the future will be based on ability.

I would kill to get a resume in from a 25 year old that showed they skipped college, got a job at a car dealership, stuck with it a few years and sold a ton of cars. You will learn more on a car dealership lot than you will in your freshman year of college. And anything that you can't learn there is available for free on the internet.

So.....are we sending our kids to college for an education? Or for a degree?

Since I left college I have learned 10x more than I ever learned in college.
 
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Sure, they kinda do now....and did in the past.

But the price of a degree is skyrocketing and its value is plummeting. With how many kids we have that are now pushed into college, a college degree is nothing special.

It won't separate you from the pack.

As a business owner, the last thing I care about when I hire you is your college degree. And I think more and more businesses will follow suit in the future. If a company hires based on a degree they are wasting money. Hiring in the future will be based on ability.

I would kill to get a resume in from a 25 year old that showed they skipped college, got a job at a car dealership, stuck with it a few years and sold a ton of cars. You will learn more on a car dealership lot than you will in your freshman year of college. And anything that you can't learn there is available for free on the internet.

So.....are we sending our kids to college for an education? Or for a degree?

It seems the past +/- 25 years it has been to send them to degree. If they actually "learn" anything (other than a few of the more technical programs), it is a minor miracle. Have seen a couple of statistics where 40+% of the kids did not learn anything after 4 years of college. Study time has been cut in half compared to 30 years ago - yet everyone is an A student, it seems. And yet the price of college has increased significantly over the years.
Since I left college I have learned 10x more than I ever learned in college.
 

WHCSC

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Sure, they kinda do now....and did in the past.

But the price of a degree is skyrocketing and its value is plummeting. With how many kids we have that are now pushed into college, a college degree is nothing special.

It won't separate you from the pack.

As a business owner, the last thing I care about when I hire you is your college degree. And I think more and more businesses will follow suit in the future. If a company hires based on a degree they are wasting money. Hiring in the future will be based on ability.

I would kill to get a resume in from a 25 year old that showed they skipped college, got a job at a car dealership, stuck with it a few years and sold a ton of cars. You will learn more on a car dealership lot than you will in your freshman year of college. And anything that you can't learn there is available for free on the internet.

So.....are we sending our kids to college for an education? Or for a degree?

Since I left college I have learned 10x more than I ever learned in college.

I think you don't even get the interview without the degree.
 

f00tball_fan

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I think you don't even get the interview without the degree.

College is great for people that get ACT scores between 20-24 who want a $50,000 a year salary and want to work for someone else. Or people that want to be lawyers, doctors, or engineers.

College is a waste of time for someone with an entrepreneurial spirit with a higher IQ.
 

f00tball_fan

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I think you don't even get the interview without the degree.

In todays day and age, if you learn how to sell and you learn how to use the internet and maybe a little coding, there is no reason why you can't make $100,000+ by age 20 or 21. (when you are getting ACT scores close to 30)

Of course, not everyone wants that. But if your goal in life is to be financially successful I would skip college and get to work.
 

f00tball_fan

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I'm trying to talk this one into trying Pre-law. I think he is considering it.

Believe me, I am very worried about sending my kids to be indoctrinated, er, to college. I've told my oldest who is headed to UNL next year, that there are already a few professors I know of that he will NOT take classes with. I refuse to pay money to support some of these wack jobs.

If it was my kids, it would be pre-law or nothing. I would not recommend trying to become a doctor. And if anyone out there is paying for their child to major in an art or social science you should just take all your money and burn it. It would be a better use of it.

Law seems to be the lowest risk to reward ratio.
 

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If it was my kids, it would be pre-law or nothing. I would not recommend trying to become a doctor. And if anyone out there is paying for their child to major in an art or social science you should just take all your money and burn it. It would be a better use of it.

Law seems to be the lowest risk to reward ratio.

I agree with a lot of what you have said in previous posts. My kids will go to college only if what they want to do in life requires going to college. As of now what they want to do requires post graduate school. I will only help them pay for college if they want to become something that requires a degree or post graduate degrees.

I personally laughed when Bernie Sanders started talking about free college for everyone. All you'd accomplish by doing that is deflating the value of that college education. If you make public universities free, then you'll make private school degrees more valuable.
 

f00tball_fan

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I agree with a lot of what you have said in previous posts. My kids will go to college only if what they want to do in life requires going to college. As of now what they want to do requires post graduate school. I will only help them pay for college if they want to become something that requires a degree or post graduate degrees.

I personally laughed when Bernie Sanders started talking about free college for everyone. All you'd accomplish by doing that is deflating the value of that college education. If you make public universities free, then you'll make private school degrees more valuable.

Worse than that is not everyone belongs in a university. I don't know what percentage of high school graduates enroll in a university but it is much, much, much too high.

Have you seen this? College is the biggest scam running in this country.

 

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Honestly, these courses are a sham after you’ve taken the test a couple times. Pay a teacher to specifically ACT tutor your kid in whatever test( reading, English, math, science) he needs to improve in.

Or you could always apply for your kid to have some BS learning disability, which would allow him unlimited time, with which any kid who can score 30+ should get bumped up to a 36 on science.

Sorry to hijack this thread, but the “accommodations” on the ACT are shady as ****. And that’s coming from a guy who has proctored the test 20+ times and also seen scores go up 7 freakin points when kids qualify for extra time and/or someone “reading” to them.
"Testing anxiety" getting kids A's and Scholarships since 2010
 

bkrrrrr

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I can't imagine taking any of those tests more than once, much less "prepping" for them on top of that. Going through the cycle of PSAT, SAT, ACT once was more than enough staring at bubble sheets for a year.
 

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I took a ACT prep course at Lincoln High for a few months when I was a JR. I took the the test twice. Got a 27 and 29 after it.
 

HuskerHusaria

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I already know I will be in the minority.....but what is the purpose of all this? What does your kid want to be?

If it isn’t a lawyer, doctor, or engineer then don’t waste time at college.

I got a 28, 30 and 32 and the biggest mistake I made was going to a University on a full ride scholarship. Wasted 3 years of my life learning how to drink and hate white people.

If your kid is that smart, he is set for life if he has work ethic and figures out what he wants to do.

Meanwhile my brother and sister in law both have masters degrees, were taught to be complete socialists and spend their nights bartending and waitressing. They are the same age as me (30) and make 1/6 of what I make combined.

BE CAREFUL with sending your kids to university these days. It isn’t 1982 anymore.
You took the words out of my mouth. I was taught to hate. I was taught to hate white people, because they have wreaked devastation on this land. I am Polish Scottish. My Ancestors were murdered by the Nazis. My lucky ancestors left a year before everyone was slaughtered.

Even though we left. Those that stayed were MY people. They were murdered!

Public Schools told me that i was an evil person. Food me that i was a POS of a person and that i should be a slave to black people. I called them on their **** when i was 8. I was never a popular kid.
 

HuskerHusaria

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Its not a popular idea when you are white and your great grandparents were slaves. Nor, throughout history for over 1000 years your ancestors were slaves.