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I doubt it will happen, but if it does he will definitely start the first game.
Damn, you really think he'd start? I know he knows the system and all, but he has some seriously highly touted guys with him on the roster, including one who ran a similar system already and one who was one of the greatest passers in California high school history. I don't mean this as a diss at all, but Vedral obviously wasn't very sought after as a recruit, do we think he made that huge of a leap since then, or is comfort in the scheme the most important thing?
So how is there a chance he might play? The transfer rules seem pretty clear to me. What little loophole am I missing?
And I agree with the views of huskerj12 above. Just how good is Vedral anyway? Heck, give me a year to study the playbook and run simulations in my backyard and I too would know the offense. But I would really suck as a real QB. Obviously, and all joking aside, Vedral has the talent to play the position... but is he really better athletically than the other guys?
And I agree with the views of huskerj12 above. Just how good is Vedral anyway? Heck, give me a year to study the playbook and run simulations in my backyard and I too would know the offense. But I would really suck as a real QB. Obviously, and all joking aside, Vedral has the talent to play the position... but is he really better athletically than the other guys?
I think one thing we know about Vedral is that he probably has the highest floor by having familiarity with the offense.
If he is eligible, you can bet Shea Patterson will be eligiable to play for Michigan too...
I know the rules committee is bringing up a proposal to allow transfers to play immediately but it is just a proposal that SF isn’t in favor for.
I know the rules committee is bringing up a proposal to allow transfers to play immediately but it is just a proposal that SF isn’t in favor for.
The article addresses the NCAA committee that is looking at the transfer rules. They are looking at 2 instances where a player could be eligible immediately, 1) a student with high academic marks and 2) when a coach leaves a program. He would be applying under the new rules, if adopted, not the old ones.
Frost, just yesterday on the BigTen conference call, stated he was not in favor of such rule changes because it would become the wild west.
I am not in favor of the rule changes proposed, but I don't have a vote.
Frost, just yesterday on the BigTen conference call, stated he was not in favor of such rule changes because it would become the wild west.
I am not in favor of the rule changes proposed, but I don't have a vote.
I agree with this, sure there MIGHT be a chance but it won’t happen. I can’t remember any other player ever getting that pass. He left another team to follow his HC he had with the previous team. He will have to set out this year, this would be a first if some how he got cleared for this year.
I also agree with the other dude above, Noah may have this system down solid but he’s got some very talented QBs he’s have to beat out. And you add in a player like Gebbia who’s still has months to master this system before the first game, take into count how hard the kid works and all the extra hours he puts in...I bet he has it down “at the least solid” by the time the first game rolls around.
That doesn't even address the number of kids on teams where the coach left or kids that have really good grades in General Studies, that are playing on underachieving teams that could jump ship as soon as the rule change is made. No thanks.
I don’t like it one bit. Now I could see if a Head Coach and his staff being fired and a player already commented then I could see them making a case.
I agree. That would create chaos. And as Frost pointed out... it actually gives an unscrupulous coach a motive to have his players underachieve academically.
Thanks. For some reason my computer would not open the article so thanks for the cliff notes
By week 5? maybe not, but I would bet Vedral would be the most prepared for the season opener.
I think he'd start Game One. He's had an entire year in this offense already. Gebbia's never run an offense like this and may not be physically ready to, and Martinez isn't 100%. Remember that Frost said the most important characteristic for a QB in his offense is to be able to process information quickly. Vedral excels there, he was able to become UCF's backup as a true freshman after only a few weeks of practice, and he looked pretty good when he got in there. He's added 20 pounds of muscle since then.
With that said, I seriously doubt he will get a waiver to play next year. In that case, I think there is a decent chance that Bunch might start the first game. I just don't know if Gebbia or Martinez will be the best at running this offense by September 1st. That might not be the case later in the season.
Dude had a 170 passer rating last year for UCF, was 22 for 29 passing and averaged about 6 yards a rush. Even better than Harrison Becks Freshman year. Gebbia is a stick figure being placed in a high volume run offense, Martinez hasn't been healthy since he was a junior, and the other guy is a walk on from the middle of nowhere. Do we really have that much "talent" that a guy who knows the system can't start?
I know Frost is God and all but this rule will help a place like NU. Alabama and Georgia load up on talent, they have 4 and 5 stars 2 or 3 deep at every position. Where are the 3rd string sophomores going to transfer to? A place where the depth chart is more clear. And NU will always be more clear than the top recruiting areas. Plus we would get "good" students who may relish a 2nd chance. The NCAA is already the wild west which is why a few programs get a vast majority of the talent. It is was well regulated then the wealth would be spread. Ironically, giving players more choice will allow them to go places where there is opportunity.
you have to look at the circumstances of each student athlete.
In Vedrals case he was the center of life for so many in his small town.
His favorite hunting dog has taken to laying around curled up with one of Noah's boots.
His first cousin adores him and had developed a bed wetting problem that might effect his pre-K aspirations.
Grams doesn't like the way anyone else helps in the garden and the Doctor thinks it's best for Noah to be nearer before her health deteriorates further.
OK sure for all the big city folks it isn't a big deal but small town folk have only so much to hold on to.
Transfer approved.
Yes.
He came on in garbage time for UCF.
I like Gebbia, big time.
No disrespect to the Nebraska kid, but his tools are not as good as Gebbia. I welcome the competition but I have seen both.
Gebbia hasn’t played a down of college football so unless you’ve gone to practice this spring, how have you seen them both?
I think most can agree that spring games aren’t exactly predictors of future success...
Gebbia may well be better, but I feel like we have limited evidence of that at this point
Gebbia may well be better, but I feel like we have limited evidence of that at this point
I agree wasn't it Brion Carne's or something like that..... some years ago that after his performance in the spring game he was the next Tommie Frazier?
So Vedral is Frazier, is that what you are saying???
Gebbia has the best arm of any of our QBs. That doesn't necessarily make him the best fit for this offense. Frost said the most important qualities in a QB for his offense are ability to process information quickly, instincts, and athletic ability. I think Vedral can match/exceed Gebbia in all 3 of those areas.
Ummm not once did I make a Vedral/Frazier comparison. All I was starting was the fact that we have seen players have great spring games but it did not translate into meaningful snaps during the season.
With that said I am pulling for all of these player in the competition. If Gebbia is the man when it's all said and done. That will be great. It's gonna be fun to watch it play out.
This is silly. You have a kid that was very highly recruited, and highly praised by a couple of coaching staffs now and trying to compare him to a local kid that wasn't highly recruited yet knows the system a little bit and who clings to his coach because he would be overlooked anywhere else he went. I have no doubt Noah can earn a backup role, and it's a nice story, but that is where the fantasy ends. This is about going after championships not local heros missing their dogs and family members with bedwetting issues. C'mon.. pull your heads out of your behinds people.