Move in to the top 20?

[Gravitron]

If we could seal commitments from:

Miles Jones (5.8)
Cam Jones (5.8 and silent commit?)
Jarret Bell (5.8 and Rivals 250)
Maurice Washington (5.6, may be bumped in final rankings) and
Daniel Carson (5.7)

we would then have 1800 points and would jump Michigan to take #16 (of course, this assumes no other schools get commitments, but note that many of the schools ahead of us already have 20 plus commitments and additional commitments will only marginally increase their rankings).

I'm not a star gazer and am more excited about who we bring in (as opposed to the star associated with their name), but we have a legitimate chance of finishing in top 25 of the rankings, which may help with recruiting momentum for 2019.

 

[Redblood23]

I would be ecstatic if we landed all of those players.

 

[inWV]

Things are shaping up to have a top 25 class. Given the fact that our previous HC was a dead man walking for much of last season, with decommits outpacing commits, that is not too bad. If SF can pull a couple of rabbits out of the hat, it could even be a top 20 class.

 

[davecisar]

Getting all these kids would be GREAT
And I think Scott Frost and his staff are doing a great job

However even IF we land all of these kids- NU will NOT be in the top 20

The OP forgot to look at those who are ranked below #20 that still have openings and most likely will pass us by

Florida average player ranking - 3.7
Texas A&M 3.43
UCLA 3.64
Florida State 3.9
https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2018/all-teams/football


All of these teams average player ranking score is higher than ours- some are MUCH higher. NU is now sitting at 3.33 These other teams all are like us under 20 and adding- sitting at 10-16 players. But once they get to their 20 and they are in on many top recruits, they pass us. Michigan also is at 19 kids and in on some higher ranked kids that will displace their lower ranked ones once they get above 20 (only your top 20 count) We arent passing Michigan. FSU is at just 10 kids but they have 1- 5 stars, 7-4 and 2- 3. They would have to fail miserably for NU to stay ahead of them. Florida is at 14 and average 3.7, A&M is at 14 and 3.43 would take a near perfect storm to stay ahead of them. UCLA at 11- we might have a chance here if they fall completely on their rears- probably not.

Example- IF Florida State takes 10 more kids and they are ALL just mid 3 stars, this puts them at about #11 with 2061 points

So NU could have a very good, hard fought recruiting class- but still be in the 21-22 area. It's great to have lofty goals and to be optimistic- but creating unrealistic short term expectations that factually have no chance of happening- doesnt help things JMO

 

[jimbosc]

Top 25 would be great - especially given the number of JUCOs which tends to pull you down a bit

 

[Harry Caray]

Washington is no longer visiting this weekend. Probably a long shot to qualify academically.

 

[davecisar]

Washington is no longer visiting this weekend. Probably a long shot to qualify academically.

Probably why he was so "under" recruited
NU will not take a chance on a second academic risk player this cycle

 

[Gravitron]

Getting all these kids would be GREAT
And I think Scott Frost and his staff are doing a great job

However even IF we land all of these kids- NU will NOT be in the top 20

The OP forgot to look at those who are ranked below #20 that still have openings and most likely will pass us by

Florida average player ranking - 3.7
Texas A&M 3.43
UCLA 3.64
Florida State 3.9
https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2018/all-teams/football


All of these teams average player ranking score is higher than ours- some are MUCH higher. NU is now sitting at 3.33 These other teams all are like us under 20 and adding- sitting at 10-16 players. But once they get to their 20 and they are in on many top recruits, they pass us. Michigan also is at 19 kids and in on some higher ranked kids that will displace their lower ranked ones once they get above 20 (only your top 20 count) We arent passing Michigan. FSU is at just 10 kids but they have 1- 5 stars, 7-4 and 2- 3. They would have to fail miserably for NU to stay ahead of them. Florida is at 14 and average 3.7, A&M is at 14 and 3.43 would take a near perfect storm to stay ahead of them. UCLA at 11- we might have a chance here if they fall completely on their rears- probably not.

Example- IF Florida State takes 10 more kids and they are ALL just mid 3 stars, this puts them at about #11 with 2061 points

So NU could have a very good, hard fought recruiting class- but still be in the 21-22 area. It's great to have lofty goals and to be optimistic- but creating unrealistic short term expectations that factually have no chance of happening- doesnt help things JMO

No, I took that into account. See my comment about this assuming no one else receives any further commitments. My post was only meant to say that we would move inside the top 20 at the present moment. I ended the post by saying that I think we could end up in the top 25 (which is how you ended your post). So, I think we agree.

If we are able to gain commitments from another 4 4 stars and other highly rated 3 stars, I think we will finish in the top 25. We have a lot of 5.5 3 stars, and if our final numbers are 23-25 commitments, then only our top 20 will count, so we'll replace some of those 5.5 stars with higher rated recruits.

You are right that there are other teams who will probably jump into the top 25 (and be ahead of us), but also keep in mind that there are teams presently in the top 25 because they already have 20 plus commitments. See teams presently ranked 18-25 (Va Tech, South Carolina, MSU, Maryland, Louisville, West Va., Okie State, NC State, and TCU (who has 19)). We have a good shot of staying ahead of these teams in the final rankings.

 

[TwinsRRUs_rivals79748]

1800 points would have finished 23rd last year. Not bad for how the class was when Frost was just getting started here!

 

[davecisar]

The deal is you cant freeze the other teams numbers- it isnt going to happen.

I took into consideration the teams ahead of us who are full and their average number of stars, how high their number of players committed are- to gauge if there was much wiggle room for a displacement bump etc

It would be great to get 4 four star kids- but that is a real longshot, NU cant play the waiting game at some positions and I dont see Scott Frost wanting to do the Mike Riley- let's leave a bunch of scholarships unused on the table thing.

That puts NU at a very respectable 24-25 area with if everything goes right here and wrong a few other places- a longshot at 21-22

 

[Headcard]

If we could seal commitments from:

Miles Jones (5.8)
Cam Jones (5.8 and silent commit?)
Jarret Bell (5.8 and Rivals 250)
Maurice Washington (5.6, may be bumped in final rankings) and
Daniel Carson (5.7)

we would then have 1800 points and would jump Michigan to take #16 (of course, this assumes no other schools get commitments, but note that many of the schools ahead of us already have 20 plus commitments and additional commitments will only marginally increase their rankings).

I'm not a star gazer and am more excited about who we bring in (as opposed to the star associated with their name), but we have a legitimate chance of finishing in top 25 of the rankings, which may help with recruiting momentum for 2019.

Also have a good shot at:

Watt, Palmer, Clark and Henry. And at least a punchers chance with Sampson and Tago.

 

[davecisar]

With Washington dropping out nu needs Henry bad
Now this opens the door to taking either sarbaugh or Bryant on the last day/ local reaches that may end up bearing fruit

 

[GeauxBigRed]

With Washington dropping out nu needs Henry bad
Now this opens the door to taking either sarbaugh or Bryant on the last day/ local reaches that may end up bearing fruit

Don't think Washington is dropping out. Staff is going to Texas next week to try and help figure it out. We will get him if he can qualify. Seems like a great chance for this coaching staff to build a relationship with IWCC if he doesn't qualify though.

 

[davecisar]

I would be very sceptical of academics surrounding anyone being mentored by Deion Sanders- He has some bad history regarding this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/10/...ed-by-deion-sanders-comes-under-scrutiny.html

Again, the player admittedly dropped out last year then transferred to Sanders school. There was a reason he wasnt highly recruited

Hopefully he did everything right and slipped under everyones radar

Will be interesting to see how it all shakes out
Makes TOTAL sense that NU is going down in person to see what's what- if your Info is correct

 

[Headcard]

I would be very sceptical to academics surrounding anyone being mentored by Deion Sanders- He has some bad history regarding this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/10/...ed-by-deion-sanders-comes-under-scrutiny.html

Again, the player admittedly dropped out last year then transferred to Sanders school. There was a reason he wasnt hightly recruited

Hopefully he did everything right and slipped under everyones radar

Will be interesting to see how it all shakes out

Slipped under who's radar? The kid was an Under Armour All-American. Has offers from: USC, LSU, Georgia, Ohio St, Washington, etc. Has official visits scheduled to: Ole Miss, Tennessee, Nebraska.

 

[davecisar]

Slipped under who's radar? The kid was an Under Armour All-American. Has offers from: USC, LSU, Georgia, Ohio St, Washington, etc. Has official visits scheduled to: Ole Miss, Tennessee, Nebraska.

YES

I SERIOUSLY doubt he was a legit Under Armour All American

Deion was his head coach in High School
Deion slipped him onto his team- Deion was the HC for the Under Armour game and is a self promoter- big time
Note how he fed Washington the ball- on that wheel route pass play TD and near the goal line

The kid has skills- but Deion sells everyone in Texas who will listen that he gets kids to DI and to the league. This is one of the ways he does it.

Ive been at that game- many times. Deion is DEEPLY involved in it- has been for many years- Coached the youth teams at that event for very long time to get his "Truth" kids on his DFW area team into the games and featured

Washingtons big offers didnt come until late- very late
He was rated as just a 3 star
He played in TAPPS- and I think they are DII in TAPPS which isnt very highly regarded in Texas if you know much about HS football there. Lots of teams there have roster sizes in low 30s- like 8 man here

NOT the hotspot of recruiting by any stretch

That's the "truth" from someone that knows Deion a bit and about Texas HS football

 

[Headcard]

YES

Deion was his head coach in High School
Deion slipped him onto his team- Deion was the HC for the Under Armour game and is a self promoter- big time

Ive been at that game- many times. Deion is DEEPLY involved in it- has been for many years- Coached the youth teams at that event for very long time to get his "Truth" kids on his DFW area team into the games and featured

Washingtons big offers didnt come until late- very late
He was rated as just a 3 star
He played in TAPPS- and I think they are DII in TAPPS which isnt very highly regarded in Texas if you know much about HS football there. Lots of teams there have roster sizes in low 30s- like 8 man here

NOT the hotspot of recruiting

Interesting, thanks.

 

[CatColumbia]

Washington is no longer visiting this weekend. Probably a long shot to qualify academically.

Where did you hear this? Link?

 

[cornhustler]

Where did you hear this? Link?

https://nebraska.rivals.com/visits/football/2018

 

[Hoosker Du]

Getting all these kids would be GREAT
And I think Scott Frost and his staff are doing a great job

However even IF we land all of these kids- NU will NOT be in the top 20

The OP forgot to look at those who are ranked below #20 that still have openings and most likely will pass us by

Florida average player ranking - 3.7
Texas A&M 3.43
UCLA 3.64
Florida State 3.9
https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2018/all-teams/football


All of these teams average player ranking score is higher than ours- some are MUCH higher. NU is now sitting at 3.33 These other teams all are like us under 20 and adding- sitting at 10-16 players. But once they get to their 20 and they are in on many top recruits, they pass us. Michigan also is at 19 kids and in on some higher ranked kids that will displace their lower ranked ones once they get above 20 (only your top 20 count) We arent passing Michigan. FSU is at just 10 kids but they have 1- 5 stars, 7-4 and 2- 3. They would have to fail miserably for NU to stay ahead of them. Florida is at 14 and average 3.7, A&M is at 14 and 3.43 would take a near perfect storm to stay ahead of them. UCLA at 11- we might have a chance here if they fall completely on their rears- probably not.

Example- IF Florida State takes 10 more kids and they are ALL just mid 3 stars, this puts them at about #11 with 2061 points

So NU could have a very good, hard fought recruiting class- but still be in the 21-22 area. It's great to have lofty goals and to be optimistic- but creating unrealistic short term expectations that factually have no chance of happening- doesnt help things JMO

Having high expectations has no bearing whatsoever on our recruiting. It may disappoint people, or conversely excite people, but it won't have a negative impact on recruiting. I don't listen much to those that make predictions or state percentages or 'Crystal Balls' or any of that nonsense, but it won't have any impact on who signs in February.

 

[TwinsRRUs_rivals79748]

Maybe they are not coming due to the crappy weather and the coaches made the decision and will reschedule!

 

[Gravitron]

Miles Jones, Cam Jones, Bell, Corbin, Tannor and Watt or Hall, and we have more than 1900 points. 3 of those may already be N.

That happens, we are definitely top 20.

 

[Gravitron]

Florida, FSU, ATM, and UCLA may/probably jump ahead of us. I think we will have a hard time jumping any team currently ranked in top 15. I'm guessing we finish 20th ranked class.

 

[planored]

Miles is N, Sampson and Bell with Cam boom

 

[Gravitron]

With Watt N, that is likely 4 of 6. Wow! Call me impressed. This staff has been phenomenal.

 

[Pennsyhusker_rivals246774]

Rankings and stars matter. Period.

That said, regardless of where we finish in the team rankings, I am very impressed with this staff's ability to identify holes in the roster and then recruit to those needs. Especially with so little time and while coaching UCF in the bowl. I also think it is very evident that Frost, like his mentor TO, is a great closer.

I can't wait to see what these guys can do with a full year to work with. Wow

 

[blackbones]

Rankings and stars matter. Period.

That said, regardless of where we finish in the team rankings, I am very impressed with this staff's ability to identify holes in the roster and then recruit to those needs. Especially with so little time and while coaching UCF in the bowl. I also think it is very evident that Frost, like his mentor TO, is a great closer.

I can't wait to see what these guys can do with a full year to work with. Wow

Its pretty awesome seeing Frost in charge of the Huskers. I love how he operates methodically and doesn't waver from the direction he knows works.. I wouldn't trade him for anybody with his skills and the fit. He was seemingly sent down by the Husker Gods to resurrect us back to prominence... No more smoke and mirror BS ... We hit the lottery here folks.

 

[Pennsyhusker_rivals246774]

Its pretty awesome seeing Frost in charge of the Huskers. I love how he operates methodically and doesn't waver from the direction he knows works.. I wouldn't trade him for anybody with his skills and the fit. He was seemingly sent down by the Husker Gods to resurrect back to prominence... No more smoke and mirror BS ... We hit the lottery here folks.

Yep. Finally.

 

[gw2kpro]

Coaching UCF in the bowl was the right thing to do. Even though that meat grinder for the month leading up to the Peach had to be brutal.

Doing right by your kids and program is paying off and will continue to do so.

 

[TwinsRRUs_rivals79748]

Two 4* commits today would move us to #15 in class rankings... just ahead of Michigan, but then we will have 20 commits and only move up in points slightly after replacing 3* players with the 4* players... if we can continue to land some 4* players that is.

Top 23-25 finish is looking good at the moment. Not half bad for a transition class and following a 4-win season!

 

[davecisar]

NU will move ahead of Michigan to #15 temporarily if we get 2 more 4 stars- which with the existing momentum now looks likely (Cam Jones, Bell, Tannor, Sampson, Corbin)

Then we get passed by other teams who have higher quality averages when they get to their 20:
Michigan
Tennessee
FSU
A&M
UCLA
Florida

Displacement of 3 stars with 4 star players isnt enough to move any of the others we pass. That would put NU at #21 and with the transfer Dixon who is a legit 4 star and doesnt count and the JUCOs who are discounted- this would be a heck of a class. Im moving my prediction of 24-25 to 21-22. This staff will be top 15 next year if they can get to 7 wins or more in 2018.

 

[19Football19]

Two 4* commits today would move us to #15 in class rankings... just ahead of Michigan, but then we will have 20 commits and only move up in points slightly after replacing 3* players with the 4* players... if we can continue to land some 4* players that is.

Top 23-25 finish is looking good at the moment. Not half bad for a transition class and following a 4-win season!

Rivals or 24/7? 24 only has us with four 4*.
This board goes with whoever gives a higher ranking is the correct site so rivals is now correct. Even though we beat out KSU, Vandy, and Iowa State for a couple of 4*???
Leftovers I guess?

 

[timnsun]

Rivals or 24/7? 24 only has us with four 4*.
This board goes with whoever gives a higher ranking is the correct site so rivals is now correct. Even though we beat out KSU, Vandy, and Iowa State for a couple of 4*???
Leftovers I guess?

And this poster goes with whoever knocks the huskers the most.

Get lost, your posts suck and your act is old.

 

[RiLLLLLLLLey]

Things are shaping up to have a top 25 class. Given the fact that our previous HC was a dead man walking for much of last season, with decommits outpacing commits, that is not too bad.

The previous coach was a proverbial dead man walking before he ever arrived in Lincoln. Oddsmakers and statistics confirmed that. And he reaffirmed the reasoning behind predictions based on statististics.

 

[GeauxBigRed]

Rivals or 24/7? 24 only has us with four 4*.
This board goes with whoever gives a higher ranking is the correct site so rivals is now correct. Even though we beat out KSU, Vandy, and Iowa State for a couple of 4*???
Leftovers I guess?

Isn't this a Rivals message board? shouldn't we use the Rivals rankings? I hope your not spending your own money for your fancy Gold Membership because you obviously aren't getting your money's worth.

Watt also has offers from Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Wisconsin, Tennessee and Mississippi State.

Jones has offers from Georgia, Mississippi State, West Virginia, and Wisconsin.

 

[barney44]

Isn't this a Rivals message board? shouldn't we use the Rivals rankings? I hope your not spending your own money for your fancy Gold Membership because you obviously aren't getting your money's worth.

Watt also has offers from Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Wisconsin, Tennessee and Mississippi State.

Jones has offers from Georgia, Mississippi State, West Virginia, and Wisconsin.

That dude is a complete recruiting troll, no point in even responding..

 

[tone1017]

Rankings and stars matter. Period.

That said, regardless of where we finish in the team rankings, I am very impressed with this staff's ability to identify holes in the roster and then recruit to those needs. Especially with so little time and while coaching UCF in the bowl. I also think it is very evident that Frost, like his mentor TO, is a great closer.

I can't wait to see what these guys can do with a full year to work with. Wow

Agree wholeheartedly. I am an unabashed stargazer and understand we'll need classes ranked higher than this one will be going forward. But what they've done with this little time is very impressive and going forward I can't see how things won't continue to improve. It's nice to not have to force compliments or justify red flags with a staff, I could get used to this.

 

[Ewooc]

If we could seal commitments from:

Miles Jones (5.8)
Cam Jones (5.8 and silent commit?)
Jarret Bell (5.8 and Rivals 250)
Maurice Washington (5.6, may be bumped in final rankings) and
Daniel Carson (5.7)

we would then have 1800 points and would jump Michigan to take #16 (of course, this assumes no other schools get commitments, but note that many of the schools ahead of us already have 20 plus commitments and additional commitments will only marginally increase their rankings).

I'm not a star gazer and am more excited about who we bring in (as opposed to the star associated with their name), but we have a legitimate chance of finishing in top 25 of the rankings, which may help with recruiting momentum for 2019.

I think if we can get another 4-5 recruits. I think we can easily get into the top 15-20. Which is very very good considering the short time Frost and Co had to work.

 

[TwinsRRUs_rivals79748]

That dude is a complete recruiting troll, no point in even responding..

Pretty sure that is against board rule #4!

 

[jimbosc]

We are in a good spot - and there is opportunity to really close this class strong. Frost is NAILS!