Scott Frost Physical?
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Yeah, Speilman managed to burn the Ohio State secondary for a 77 yard TD and put up 200 yards receiving on them. I'd take Killins and Milton but other than that I'd be fine with our speed and size.
Can you not read? Show me where I'm wrong? I said in 2017- this year's team, we have TWO 4.2 forty guys. Mike Hughes and Adrian Killins.
A little on Hughes below. Was a 4 star- ran 4.34 in 2014 and this year clocked 4.28
http://www.fayobserver.com/f311cd5e-26ea-11e4-82cc-001a4bcf6878.html
Killins is faster than him.
In past years, UCF is putting out 4.2-4.3 guys regularly. I'm wrong about nothing. But carry on.
Yeah sorry. Spielman is 4.45 and Lindsey is 4.5. See below...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...asing-football-dream-despite-lacrosse-stardom
https://scout.com/college/football/...Tyjon-Lindsey-Testing-at-The-Opening-74978938
Just being honest....that's not good for Florida. Our 27 year old Tight End Jordan Akins who came back from pro baseball runs a 4.4.
Frost is about to see a MAJOR difference in speed and athletes.
Okie dokie. Glad Frost and his entire staff are moving on up to NU! Smokin
I don't have my stopwatch on me, but when I was first watching this play, I was thinking, who do we have that could make that play? This guy is freakin' fast.
Don't get me wrong, UCF is loaded with speed, but I think you're buying into the UCFast hype a little hard. I'm having a difficult time finding an actual 40 time for Akins, but if he has a legit 4.4 electronically timed 40 I would be shocked, as that's .15 seconds faster than the average NFL corner, much less TE. It's possible, but that would put him only .02 behind the NFL Combine record holder for TE (Vernon Davis), and somehow I feel like I wouldn't have to Akins to find out who he was if he was in that elite of company.
I'm not saying you don't have athletes, but I think you have a slightly inflated (probably video game-esque) perception of UCF's athletes when you consider Lindsey and Spielman's numbers "not good" considering they would, if accurate, be faster than the NFL Combine averages for their position.
For Frost's system, absolutely. You guys get different types of athletes. Higher stars, more physical, stronger. Not speed though. Not close.
Will be very interesting to see if Frost's system works here in the Big Ten. I think he gets to (7-5) or (8-4) tops and is eventually run out but we shall see.
Here's Frost in year 1 getting waxed by Michigan 31-0 at the time but Killins is no match for their defensive speed........
There isn’t a single player he recruited at UCF that he couldn’t get at Nebraska. We’ve flipped guys like King and Maurice from UCF before and guys like McGriff and Throton are beating down the door to follow him to Nebraska now. SF will do great here, Bo Pelini won 9-10 games a year here, running a spread zone read offense and he was a very average coach.
And yes, Killins can fly. It’s was a huge break for UCF that he couldn’t qualify at Miami. But do you honestly think that if he was available today, SF couldn’t land him at Nebraska and that he would choose to play at UCF?
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King wasn't very good. You guys may get McGriff, a decent recruit but only 1 recruit is not impressive. Avery Thornton was the absolute worst recruit on our G5 board. Not kidding. He will probably end up at Eastern Michigan.
Good Question for discussion.
I remember years ago watching our Bigger, Stronger, Slower Nebraska Team getting beat handily by a smaller, quicker Alabama team. And it caused Nebraska to make some changes in their style of play, and who they recruited to add overall speed and quickness. Brought some defensive backs up into Linebacker roles.
Think of the games with Oklahoma during the day when they would always seem to be faster and quicker.
Scott Frost's offense will work anywhere, even and maybe especially the Big 10.
The quickness of play will exhaust the other teams unless they are used to it. And unless they play that style of ball week in and week out, there is no way to be used to it.
The general speed of the individual players will also be an adjustment for Big 10. Not that they don't have speed, but if Frost gets the players he wants, they won't have this kind of speed.
Add in the Physicality in the Offensive and Defensive Line play that Frost wants, and it has the potential to be total Shock and Awe in the Big 10. Will the other teams in the Conference adjust to this style of play. They will have to, and they will. But it will take awhile.
UCF and Memphis were fun to watch. Very Good Teams that can compete. But UCF and Memphis! Think of the Caliber of player and the number of players that Frost can recruit to a place like Nebraska!
Will he get them all, of course not. But he will get enough. Enough to put Nebraska back in the Hunt! Right where our Fan Base and College Football needs for the Big Red to be!
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People get too wrapped up in systems. This system will work in B1G as well as any other conf. It is the other aspects that he brings that I am also as excited about.
Here is a quote from Adrian Martinez, obviously a recruiting target at UCF when Frost was there and now a Nebraska target. I know you know who this kid is, I'm sure he knows but I put it out there for general purpose.
“It’s kind of funny how things work out,” Martinez told Land of 10 on Friday. “With them coming to Nebraska, and things playing out the way they have so far. I didn’t really feel like UCF was a good fit for me. I wasn’t really liking that school in that way, but I liked them as a coaching staff. And then they make the move over to Nebraska and, obviously, it’s a little bit different.
“It’s a lot easier to recruit to Nebraska than to UCF.”
Here's another...
“I think Nebraska is a national power type school. Being the guy I am, I love college football and the history of it and everything else,” Martinez said. “Nebraska has a strong history and a certain amount of pedigree that comes with it. … Nebraska, as a program, I know they’re as good as it gets.”
And more...
Throughout the season, Martinez kept an eye on Frost at UCF and the type of offense he ran. He’s visualized himself in the offense and it’s a message Frost and Verduzco continue pitching him.
“I feel like I’m a perfect fit for his offense,” Martinez said. “My high school coach actually thinks the same thing. When we watched them, he was just like, ‘This offense is perfect for you.’ I agree with it.”
Basically he's saying that he likes Frost, his staff and feels that the offensive system is a perfect fit for him but the UCF football program just isn't what he's looking for. This is a classic case of Nebraska being a football school and UCF being a school with a football team. Nebraska and it's barren wasteland of a location in the frozen tundra is the difference here, that's unpossible...