Scott Frost Physical?

[Asjohn01]

For what it is worth, I have always thought that Scott would not be a good fit as I hate seeing someone running shotgun on 3rd and 2 like he will. Never thought that would translate vs Big 10 football. However under his Oregon and UCF he actually fared well with physical teams.

2-1 vs Stanford (Most physical in Pac 12)
1-1 vs good Michigan St teams
0-1 vs Ohio St

UCF

0-1 vs Michigan
1-1 vs Maryland

He is 2-4 vs Big 10 teams and 2-1 vs really good Stanford teams. Do you think his offense can win consistently in the BIG?

 

[Lincoln100]

Yes

 

[Headcard]

I disagree with the notion of “Big 10 football”. Good schemes and good players win games. You don’t have to be just like everyone else in your conference to win it. Stanford doesn’t play “PAC 12 football” like everyone else out there and they do just fine. Let’s embrace being different than the Wisconsin’s, Iowa’s, and Minnesota’s in our division.

 

[HuskerLLM]

Who says he won' have some "tweaks"

 

[Spectrumalaska]

I need the Olivia Newton John video.

 

[Headcard]

Who says he won' have some "tweaks"

He has a bunch. Runs option and pulls people all over the place, which you don’t see in Chips offense. I think SF is still growing and developing as a coach, I think he will be a guy like TO that is constantly evolving.

 

[Spectrumalaska]

She twerked before twerking.

Can we get her as cheerleader coach?

 

[Cloud_a_Heart]

Pretty sure he will pass the physical to become Nebraska's next head coach!

 

[Spectrumalaska]

He would kick *** on our lineman, lol. Frost vs Gates.

Who passes the test there ?

 

[Solana Beach Husker]

Defenses can be tired for a few reasons...an big oline beats on them for 55 plays....or a smaller /faster oline pushes through them for 80 plays...remember that oregon went so fast that they had to start changing rules, and players started acting hurt just to get a breather. I find exhausted teams as easy to beat as ones who are bruised.

 

[barney44]

What exactly is the reason that people "have" to play B1G ball?

It's almost always the damn scrubs saying you have to follow these guidelines to achieve success yet they're not as successful. I think it's important to build a defense to handle your biggest conference opponents. Do that and you'll handle everyone else in the league. Offense? What is keeping others from running a different offense? It didn't stop Ohio State or Penn State from going outside the box. They said Urban Meyers gimmick of an offense wouldn't work in the SEC, it did and grabbed Florida 2 national titles in the process of working. Ohio State does just fine in the B1G with a style that supposedly doesn't fit the B1G. Build a successful, well run offense and it's their job to build a defense capable of stopping it, doesn't matter what offense it is.

 

[ssmill777]

For what it is worth, I have always thought that Scott would not be a good fit as I hate seeing someone running shotgun on 3rd and 2 like he will. Never thought that would translate vs Big 10 football. However under his Oregon and UCF he actually fared well with physical teams.

2-1 vs Stanford (Most physical in Pac 12)
1-1 vs good Michigan St teams
0-1 vs Ohio St

UCF

0-1 vs Michigan
1-1 vs Maryland

He is 2-4 vs Big 10 teams and 2-1 vs really good Stanford teams. Do you think his offense can win consistently in the BIG?

He runs shotgun most of the time, regardless of down and distance. Scott's offense is based on defensive alignment. 5 man front, he runs most of the time; 6 man is RPO; 7 man front he will throw it. It will absolutely require a dual-threat QB. I hope the kid from Logan, Ia (Duggan?) is paying attention to who our next coach is. He could be a perfect fit.

 

[genetics56]

For what it is worth, I have always thought that Scott would not be a good fit as I hate seeing someone running shotgun on 3rd and 2 like he will. Never thought that would translate vs Big 10 football. However under his Oregon and UCF he actually fared well with physical teams.

2-1 vs Stanford (Most physical in Pac 12)
1-1 vs good Michigan St teams
0-1 vs Ohio St

UCF

0-1 vs Michigan
1-1 vs Maryland

He is 2-4 vs Big 10 teams and 2-1 vs really good Stanford teams. Do you think his offense can win consistently in the BIG?

Offense is not going to be an issue for Frost. You can take that to the bank and you will always have funds to draw from.

When he was calling plays at Oregon there were games where he had 600+ yards and over 60 points.

In the USF game USF put mostly defensive backs on the field to defend his offense. Once Frost figured out how to call plays against what USF was doing he got back into the lead.

There is no team in the Big Ten that runs the Frost offense. Ohio State is the closest one.

And Frost changed Chip's schemes from zone to power blocking.

 

[genetics56]

He runs shotgun most of the time, regardless of down and distance. Scott's offense is based on defensive alignment. 5 man front, he runs most of the time; 6 man is RPO; 7 man front he will throw it. It will absolutely require a dual-threat QB. I hope the kid from Logan, Ia (Duggan?) is paying attention to who our next coach is. He could be a perfect fit.

His offense is designed around what the safety does. What the safety (or safeties) are doing will dictate what the play calling is.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

He is going to have to find a QB that suits his system or meld his system to our current QB talent

He may very well reach out to Chip Kelly to discuss how he utilized a pro style QB within his system while in the NFL. His offense with the Eagles wasn’t that bad and we won’t be going up against NFL. defenses

 

[Headcard]

He is going to have to find a QB that suits his system or meld his system to our current QB talent

He may very well reach out to Chip Kelly to discuss how he utilized a pro style QB within his system while in the NFL. His offense with the Eagles wasn’t that bad and he won’t be going up against NFL. defenses

I think both POB and Gebbia ran similar offenses in HS and will fit well. I don’t see Lee sticking around.

 

[barney44]

It will absolutely require a dual-threat QB. I hope the kid from Logan, Ia (Duggan?) is paying attention to who our next coach is. He could be a perfect fit.

Yeah I would have to assume that the current QB's on roster are of the serviceable type and not the fit to make things humm. Duggan plays across the river in Council Bluffs, seen him play and he's a pretty good one. I think he has current offers from both Nebraska and UCF among a boat load of others. He looks like the type of player you would want to keep in the area..

 

[MOhusker12]

For what it is worth, I have always thought that Scott would not be a good fit as I hate seeing someone running shotgun on 3rd and 2 like he will. Never thought that would translate vs Big 10 football. However under his Oregon and UCF he actually fared well with physical teams.

2-1 vs Stanford (Most physical in Pac 12)
1-1 vs good Michigan St teams
0-1 vs Ohio St

UCF

0-1 vs Michigan
1-1 vs Maryland

He is 2-4 vs Big 10 teams and 2-1 vs really good Stanford teams. Do you think his offense can win consistently in the BIG?

I believe Ohio State is in the shotgun 100% of the time and everyone feels they are the cream of the crop.

 

[barney44]

I think both POB and Gebbia ran similar offenses in HS and will fit well. I don’t see Lee sticking around.

I don't think those offenses were quite the same as what Frost runs. They're spread offenses but not the spread option stuff that demands more from the QB's legs.

 

[ssmill777]

Yeah I would have to assume that the current QB's on roster are of the serviceable type and not the fit to make things humm. Duggan plays across the river in Council Bluffs, seen him play and he's a pretty good one. I think he has current offers from both Nebraska and UCF among a boat load of others. He looks like the type of player you would want to keep in the area..

Sorry I screwed up the town.

 

[cubsker_rivals142943]

Yes

end thread

 

[barney44]

Sorry I screwed up the town.

Nah, you're good...

Logan, Council Tucky.. Whats the difference?

 

[Nebraska Fan]

He is going to have to find a QB that suits his system or meld his system to our current QB talent

He may very well reach out to Chip Kelly to discuss how he utilized a pro style QB within his system while in the NFL. His offense with the Eagles wasn’t that bad and we won’t be going up against NFL. defenses

enter Zack Darlington

 

[Headcard]

enter Zack Darlington

No way. Can’t sacrifice the 30 passes you throw a game for the 5 QB runs.

 

[Cidsports]

For what it is worth, I have always thought that Scott would not be a good fit as I hate seeing someone running shotgun on 3rd and 2 like he will. Never thought that would translate vs Big 10 football. However under his Oregon and UCF he actually fared well with physical teams.

2-1 vs Stanford (Most physical in Pac 12)
1-1 vs good Michigan St teams
0-1 vs Ohio St

UCF

0-1 vs Michigan
1-1 vs Maryland

He is 2-4 vs Big 10 teams and 2-1 vs really good Stanford teams. Do you think his offense can win consistently in the BIG?

P.J. Fleck was 2-7 vs. B1G at Western Michigan.

 

[Nebraska Fan]

No way. Can’t sacrifice the 30 passes you throw a game for the 5 QB runs.

what makes you think he can't pass?

 

[hddude55]

For what it is worth, I have always thought that Scott would not be a good fit as I hate seeing someone running shotgun on 3rd and 2 like he will. Never thought that would translate vs Big 10 football...

For those old, old timers here they could explain to you that direct snap doesn’t negate the use of power football. Tommy Prothro ran all over teams on the ground with his powerful single wing offense, direct snaps and all.

 

[o_h3]

He runs shotgun most of the time, regardless of down and distance. Scott's offense is based on defensive alignment. 5 man front, he runs most of the time; 6 man is RPO; 7 man front he will throw it. It will absolutely require a dual-threat QB. I hope the kid from Logan, Ia (Duggan?) is paying attention to who our next coach is. He could be a perfect fit.

Max Duggan from Lewis Central is already being recruited by UCF.

 

[z28craz]

I believe Ohio State is in the shotgun 100% of the time and everyone feels they are the cream of the crop.

This. Frost’s offense looks more like OSU than any other BIG team’s offense. If he can produce similar results... I don’t think anyone would complain and say we should look more like the Big Ten.

 

[HuskerLLM]

Terry Wilson---oh, the irony---is coming out of Juco and is thought to be a possible option.

 

[stonesak]

I believe Ohio State is in the shotgun 100% of the time and everyone feels they are the cream of the crop.

Except Iowa. (It hurt to type that.)

 

[The Branch]

Scott caught lightning in a bottle at UCF because he was able to recruit super fast 3 star kids that UF/FSU didn't want. Why? Because they were too small (5'7 types). The biggest reason for his success is McKenzie Milton. This kid is from Hawaii and camped with him at Oregon in High School. McKenzie is a "Marcus Mariota" junkie and studied everything he did and everything Oregon did. You can't duplicate that quickly. In a way, UCF got lucky there.

Frost is a good pick for you guys because you all will give him the runway he needs to succeed. It's the runway you wouldn't give anybody else (deservedly so in most cases). Don't expect his offense to succeed year 1 at all or even year 2 like it did at UCF. He has to find that QB with all of the right skills and that may take a bit. Once he finds it, it will be one heck of a show.

 

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

Offense is not going to be an issue for Frost. You can take that to the bank and you will always have funds to draw from.

When he was calling plays at Oregon there were games where he had 600+ yards and over 60 points.

In the USF game USF put mostly defensive backs on the field to defend his offense. Once Frost figured out how to call plays against what USF was doing he got back into the lead.

There is no team in the Big Ten that runs the Frost offense. Ohio State is the closest one.

And Frost changed Chip's schemes from zone to power blocking.

I especially like the blocking scheme, power "hat on hat". He is improving from Kelly.

 

[TruHusker]

I especially like the blocking scheme, power "hat on hat". He is improving from Kelly.

Perhaps you could explain the "power" blocking scheme to the rest of us. What is so much different?

 

[inWV]

Gebbia Spring Game highlights (noted: I know it was only a glorified scrimmage) were intriguing. He gets the ball out fast. He will be more than servicable in Frost's offense.

 

[dand84]

I like the running game that SF has, especially the option and option looks. There are going to be times with weather up here where we have to be able to run. I really agree with a previous poster though, the whole thing really revolves around Milton.

 

[Buicklife]

For what it is worth, I have always thought that Scott would not be a good fit as I hate seeing someone running shotgun on 3rd and 2 like he will. Never thought that would translate vs Big 10 football. However under his Oregon and UCF he actually fared well with physical teams.

2-1 vs Stanford (Most physical in Pac 12)
1-1 vs good Michigan St teams
0-1 vs Ohio St

UCF

0-1 vs Michigan
1-1 vs Maryland

He is 2-4 vs Big 10 teams and 2-1 vs really good Stanford teams. Do you think his offense can win consistently in the BIG?

Do you recall what Florida's offense looked like under Urban Meyer out of the shotgun?

 

[meo1960]

For what it is worth, I have always thought that Scott would not be a good fit as I hate seeing someone running shotgun on 3rd and 2 like he will. Never thought that would translate vs Big 10 football. However under his Oregon and UCF he actually fared well with physical teams.

2-1 vs Stanford (Most physical in Pac 12)
1-1 vs good Michigan St teams
0-1 vs Ohio St

UCF

0-1 vs Michigan
1-1 vs Maryland

He is 2-4 vs Big 10 teams and 2-1 vs really good Stanford teams. Do you think his offense can win consistently in the BIG?

Scott's offense shouldn't be a concern when it comes to being successful in the B1G.

UCF Rankings:
- Scoring Offense - 1 (48.3 pts/gm)
- Rushing Offense - 35 (198.4 yds/gm)
- Passing Offense - 11 (325.2 yds/gm)
- Total Offense - 6 (523.5 yds/gm)

- Scoring Defense - 33 (22.3 pts/gm)
- Rushing Defense - 54 (155 yds/gm)
- Passing Defense - 96 (243.9 yds/gm)
- Total Defense - 73 (399 yds/gm)

If anything, as level of competition rises, I expect all Scotts, UCF stats to worsen in the B1G. I believe the defense is going to raise the most issues. Even so, can Scotts offense carry the team until he bolsters his defense?

All discussions moot at this point because we don't even know if Scott is going to take the job and we don't know which coaches he will bring with him. Discussions of this sort help to pass the time, I guess.

 

[yort2000]

Scott caught lightning in a bottle at UCF because he was able to recruit super fast 3 star kids that UF/FSU didn't want. Why? Because they were too small (5'7 types). The biggest reason for his success is McKenzie Milton. This kid is from Hawaii and camped with him at Oregon in High School. McKenzie is a "Marcus Mariota" junkie and studied everything he did and everything Oregon did. You can't duplicate that quickly. In a way, UCF got lucky there.

Frost is a good pick for you guys because you all will give him the runway he needs to succeed. It's the runway you wouldn't give anybody else (deservedly so in most cases). Don't expect his offense to succeed year 1 at all or even year 2 like it did at UCF. He has to find that QB with all of the right skills and that may take a bit. Once he finds it, it will be one heck of a show.

I think a lot of you guys are seriously underestimating Gebbia's skill set.

 

[chrsmneric]

I think a lot of you guys are seriously underestimating Gebbia's skill set.

Only real question regarding Gebbia is his size, I am 100% in support of the kid but he's a skinny marinky dinky dink. So we can lay it to rest, who are some similar builds that were successful?