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Harbaugh is just butt hurt over the fact that despite all the hype, he really hasn't done jack **** yet at Michigan. And now he has a rebuilding year ahead of him. Can he sense, perhaps, that the old momentum train may have left town, heading out of Ann Arbor toward State College?

A satellite camp in a Rome is just stupid. I think it makes him look like a circus showman rather than a head coach. It is over the top, gimmicky, and it won't be good PR
 
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Harbaugh is just butt hurt over the fact that despite all the hype, he really hasn't done jack **** yet at Michigan. And now he has a rebuilding year ahead of him. Can he sense, perhaps, that the old momentum train may have left town, heading out of Ann Arbor toward State College?

A satellite camp in a Rome is just stupid. I think it makes him look like a circus showman rather than a head coach. It is over the top, gimmicky, and it won't be good PR


just for future reference if Riley gets us in the top 10 and in a New Years 6 bowl we can justifiably claim he hasn't done "jack ****"

Riley has a long, long way to go to even approach "jack ****" if that is the bar
 

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just for future reference if Riley gets us in the top 10 and in a New Years 6 bowl we can justifiably claim he hasn't done "jack ****"

Riley has a long, long way to go to even approach "jack ****" if that is the bar
That's right man. Don't F*u*k with The Jesus.

I can understand people not liking Harbaugh, but if Riley did this we'd see nothing but "Riley GETS IT!" and "This staff works hard and doesn't back down!" posts. And we should, because this is doing everything you can to stick it to the SEC.
Harbaugh might not be a likeable guy but he's a damn good coach, PERIOD.
 
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just for future reference if Riley gets us in the top 10 and in a New Years 6 bowl we can justifiably claim he hasn't done "jack ****"

Riley has a long, long way to go to even approach "jack ****" if that is the bar
Was not comparing him to Riley. Where did I do that? Currently we are not a good program. Hopefully we will get there.

I was comparing what Harbaugh has accomplished to the hype that has surrounded him. And that hype has been effusive. But he has not won anything that matters yet. He has not won a conference title. He has not even won his division. And now he has lost a ton of players. Of course saying he hasn't done "jack ****" is rhetorical hyperbole. But compared to the hype machine and his deification in the press, he really hasn't done much to live up to it, imo.
 

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Harbaugh is just butt hurt over the fact that despite all the hype, he really hasn't done jack **** yet at Michigan. And now he has a rebuilding year ahead of him. Can he sense, perhaps, that the old momentum train may have left town, heading out of Ann Arbor toward State College?

A satellite camp in a Rome is just stupid. I think it makes him look like a circus showman rather than a head coach. It is over the top, gimmicky, and it won't be good PR
He hasn't done jack ****? Well I wish we haven't done jack **** like he hadn't!
 
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Kids are lucky Rome is awesome
Rome is my favorite city, so I don't think it is a bad thing at all to take them there. Just don't like attaching study abroad to Spring practice for purely PR reasons.
I spent a year in Rome as faculty mentor for our students studying there. An amazing city. So I sure as hell am not against that aspect of this
 

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just for future reference if Riley gets us in the top 10 and in a New Years 6 bowl we can justifiably claim he hasn't done "jack ****"

Riley has a long, long way to go to even approach "jack ****" if that is the bar

Just to clarify Harbaugh was left with a "shitload" of talent at Michigan so he hasn't been impressive to date.
 

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no not going out with a bang. this is not going to be a spring break thing. will happen after spring break. michigan plans to do this every year
He won't be able to do this every year. NCAA allows teams to take a foreign training trip every four years. It hasn't really been utililized in football as much as it has been in other sports such as men's and women's basketball and men's soccer.
 
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Rome is indeed awesome and a must see for anybody who likes to travel.

That being said, you lose a day going over there and spend a day coming back. Plus you must adjust to a seven hour time change. Sounds great but I'm not sure it's all that practical for getting a lot of work done. But most of these players will never get to experience Rome, so it is probably the chance of a lifetime for them.
 

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I think it was the VA baseball team that went to Costa Rica a couple years ago. I always wondered how that was allowed...guess I still do.
 

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Maybe Riley could take the boys to Madrid next year and stop by Nebraska 55. They would feel right at home!
 
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Harbaugh is a great coach, period.

Hasn't won anything at Michigan...Jesus tap-dancing Christ!

The guy came within one freakin play of winning a Super Bowl with Colin MFing Kaepernick! Could you imagine the excuses and timeframe for actual measurable success given from some of the people on this board if they were Niners fans when he started there...with Alex Smith and CK?
 

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He won't be able to do this every year. NCAA allows teams to take a foreign training trip every four years. It hasn't really been utililized in football as much as it has been in other sports such as men's and women's basketball and men's soccer.
A good number of the players are staying oversees (afterwards) for a three week study abroad program that already exists for normal students...some will stay in Rome others will go to other countries. Even for the ones that are just going for the week have to participate in certain educational activities to satisfy it being an educational trip. I'm not going to pretend to know what exactly the requirements are...but I do know this has been vetted and allows for it to happen every year...well until the NCAA changes the rules again.
 
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Harbaugh is a great coach, period.

Hasn't won anything at Michigan...Jesus tap-dancing Christ!

The guy came within one freakin play of winning a Super Bowl with Colin MFing Kaepernick! Could you imagine the excuses and timeframe for actual measurable success given from some of the people on this board if they were Niners fans when he started there...with Alex Smith and CK?
Did I say he wasn't a great coach? No.
Name a college championship he has won so far? Oh yeah. Not one. Not even in his division. With a team loaded with talent.
I was not talking about his years in the pros. I was not making a judgement about him as a coach. Was not comparing him to Riley or Nebraska.
I was comparing his actual achievements so far at Michigan with the hype machine surrounding him. Period.
And so far his achievements do not match the hype. So far he has been outperformed by James Franklin, who took a sanctions crippled PSU in three years to the B1G title, with less talent than Harbaugh had at Michigan this year.
 
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Did I say he wasn't a great coach? No.
Name a college championship he has won so far? Oh yeah. Not one. Not even in his division. With a team loaded with talent.
I was not talking about his years in the pros. I was not making a judgement about him as a coach. Was not comparing him to Riley or Nebraska.
I was comparing his actual achievements so far at Michigan with the hype machine surrounding him. Period.
And so far his achievements do not match the hype. So far he has been outperformed by James Franklin, who took a sanctions crippled PSU in three years to the B1G title, with less talent than Harbaugh had at Michigan this year.

So wait, coaches aren't judged on how good/great they are from achievements? Or are they? Or is Harbaugh not as good a coach as Franklin based on achievements? You're all over the map. I'm out.
 
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So wait, coaches aren't judged on how good/great they are from achievements? Or are they? Or is Harbaugh not as good a coach as Franklin based on achievements? You're all over the map. I'm out.
You continue to miss the point. I am not talking about whether or not he is a good coach. Not talking about whether or not he is a better coach than Franklin. I am making fun of the f$cking media hype and hysteria that surrounds the guy and comparing that hype to what he has actually done at Michigan. He has recruited well. He has had good seasons. But he has not lived up to the hype. I am making a point about how ridiculous the flavor of the month hyping by sports journalists is. And now all that hype is going to shift to pedophile U. Must be eating at his soul right now.
But by all means, come back again and tell me how stupid I am for saying that Harbaugh isn't a good coach. Lol. I am out of here too
 
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You continue to miss the point. I am not talking about whether or not he is a good coach. Not talking about whether or not he is a better coach than Franklin. I am making fun of the f$cking media hype and hysteria that surrounds the guy and comparing that hype to what he has actually done at Michigan. He has recruited well. He has had good seasons. But he has not lived up to the hype. I am making a point about how ridiculous the flavor of the month hyping by sports journalists is. And now all that hype is going to shift to pedophile U. Must be eating at his soul right now.
But by all means, come back again and tell me how stupid I am for saying that Harbaugh isn't a good coach. Lol. I am out of here too
You mean the James Franklin that Harbaugh beat 49-10 this year? Don't think JH is loosing sleep over Franklin. tOSU and not taking care of business at Iowa might be eating at his soul but this flavor of the month thing has been going on for two years now and doesn't seem like it is at an end yet...sorry it upsets you so much.
 
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Its a great idea. These guys seem to be right there, when it comes to the cutting edge of recruiting (Like it or not). That being said, There is so much talent out there that you don't have to do that, in order to get good enough players to beat'em.
 

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Did I say he wasn't a great coach? No.
Name a college championship he has won so far? Oh yeah. Not one. Not even in his division. With a team loaded with talent.
I was not talking about his years in the pros. I was not making a judgement about him as a coach. Was not comparing him to Riley or Nebraska.
I was comparing his actual achievements so far at Michigan with the hype machine surrounding him. Period.
And so far his achievements do not match the hype. So far he has been outperformed by James Franklin, who took a sanctions crippled PSU in three years to the B1G title, with less talent than Harbaugh had at Michigan this year.
We need Franklin then. We're going into year 3 with the new staff. Anyone think we will do what Franklin has done by year 5? Year 6? Year 7?
 
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You mean the James Franklin that Harbaugh beat 49-10 this year? Don't think JH is loosing sleep over Franklin. tOSU and not taking care of business at Iowa might be eating at his soul but this flavor of the month thing has been going on for two years now and doesn't seem like it is at an end yet...sorry it upsets you so much.
Yes Michigan beat PSU. Remind me now again please... who won the eastern division? Who won't the B1G? Oh yeah... it wasn't Michigan.
 

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Yes Michigan beat PSU. Remind me now again please... who won the eastern division? Who won't the B1G? Oh yeah... it wasn't Michigan.
See that is the problem...people need reminding who won the East this year. Up until the end. tOSU and Michigan were the story...which one will get in...will both get in...heck...tOSU didn't win the East either and for some reason they went to the playoff and not the B10 champ...I don't think you get how this whole hype thing works...
 
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See that is the problem...people need reminding who won the East this year. Up until the end. tOSU and Michigan were the story...which one will get in...will both get in...heck...tOSU didn't win the East either and for some reason they went to the playoff and not the B10 champ...I don't think you get how this whole hype thing works...
Ok. All rhetoric aside you raise an interesting point. Obviously, OSU got into the playoff because they had a better overall season than PSU. Penn State lost to Pitt early in the year, then got waxed by Michigan. But then something really seemed to click for PSU when they got some dudes back from injury and they changed their offense to let McSorley run more. And, of course, PSU beat OSU.
So if we keep the playoff at 4 teams I think you really do need to reward teams for the whole season and not a team that got hot halfway through. But if the playoffs were expanded then all conference champs of power five should get in.
I think we need to keep it at four teams. Why do you think?
Oh... to return to my main point... even if the playoff had been expanded this year, Michigan still would not have been in it.
Just sayin
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Ok. All rhetoric aside you raise an interesting point. Obviously, OSU got into the playoff because they had a better overall season than PSU. Penn State lost to Pitt early in the year, then got waxed by Michigan. But then something really seemed to click for PSU when they got some dudes back from injury and they changed their offense to let McSorley run more. And, of course, PSU beat OSU.
So if we keep the playoff at 4 teams I think you really do need to reward teams for the whole season and not a team that got hot halfway through. But if the playoffs were expanded then all conference champs of power five should get in.
I think we need to keep it at four teams. Why do you think?
Oh... to return to my main point... even if the playoff had been expanded this year, Michigan still would not have been in it.
Just sayin
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Actually, Michigan ended up 6th in the final playoff ranking and was ahead of PSU at 5th (one spot out) before the B10 CCG. So if it had been 8 teams Michigan would have been in. The playoff comittee loved Michigan.

Now I guess you can argue the hypothetical as in if it were 8 there might be new rules such as autobids for conference champs and a cap of two teams per conference (like the BCS). However, if the only change were expanding to 8 then Michigan would have been in. It is an actual fact as in the ranking exists and you can google it. I don't bring this up because I want to defend Michigan or prove Harbaugh is some god. I bring it up because your emotions and bias are getting in the way of you thinking about this discussion rationally. You are arguing against actuall facts and it comes off as you have some type hate where you want to "stick it" (on a message board) to Michigan and everyone associated with it.

And fwiw...I think it should go to 8 teams because I think conference championships mean something and all five P5 champs should have a chance to prove themselves...I'm still split on if one at large should be reserved for a non-P5...on the one hand they should be given a chance and on the other hand I just don't see a non-P5 ever surviving a 3 game gauntlet like that...this is not BB were you can have the right starters and make a run...you need depth...