A'Shawn Robinson gets a personal foul for 'body slamming' Zeke Elliot. Whistle wasn't blown yet. All he did was tackle the running back.
What has the NFL become? That was embarrassing.
What has the NFL become? That was embarrassing.
Why the NFL numbers are down....
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Bad call
I guess you are supposed to lay the ball carrier down gently as to not cause fumbles and whatnot.
I guess you are supposed to lay the ball carrier down gently as to not cause fumbles and whatnot.
How the hell can they say the play was OVER? Blow the whistle and that indicates the play is over, there was no whistle and he didn't even throw him down that hard. Just pathetic.
I'm not convinced this is the reason for NFL viewers being down. It's generally football junkies like us who notice these things. Yes, I wish they would pump the brakes on the calls...it's a violent game and meant to be that way.
I think it has more to do with oversaturation of the market. Games on Sat Sun Mon Thurs....get back to Sun Mon only. The NFL will be fine.
I think it has more to do with oversaturation of the market. Games on Sat Sun Mon Thurs....get back to Sun Mon only. The NFL will be fine.
Totally agree. If the Broncos don't play on Sunday, I won't sit there from noon to 6, like I would if the did play Sunday. Hard to justify 14 hours or more watching NFL football
I think it's just too long and too much advertising.
The drama, (bad calls, kneel-gate etc) is probably good for the numbers to a point because it gives people something to talk about.
The drama, (bad calls, kneel-gate etc) is probably good for the numbers to a point because it gives people something to talk about.
If you stopped watching NFL football because a couple of clowns knelt for the national anthem, then you were just looking for a reason to stop watching.
My interest in the NFL had been waning for a few years now so perhaps I'm not the best one to answer...but I think Kap and NFL players sympathy towards BLM and their actions that went with turned a lot of people off. You can say "you were just looking for a reason to stop watching" and you'd be mostly correct because little by little, NFL players are/were doing stuff a lot of Americans didn't agree with or like and the kneel was the final straw for many of them, so again, you're right on that IMO. Also the reason the rating drop is such a mystery to many is because the last election taught us the silent majority is just that, silent. They just turn the channel, or vote, quietly, and you are left guessing because their not loud enough to tell you straight out so you're left guessing. Bad football and officating is also part of the issue, but we've always had some bad football and controversial calls so I put that farther down the list personally.
I think the NFL needs to continue working on its image. The silent majority comment above is on-point. The NFL cannot afford to lose it's fan base, which includes of many hard-working professionals. If it drifts towards the NBA-thug game, many will turn the channel.
Slightly. But they are up from 2 years ago. The NBA is on the upswing due to LBJ vs the Warriors interest. The NBA needs rivalries and stars more than any other league.
It is a violent sport and I think the NFL is doing what it can in self preservation. There is a fine line between a watered down product that no one will watch and a sport that is claimed to cause CTE resulting in law suits. That and protecting it's stars from injury. I think they would love to see a Dallas in the Superbowl for ratings and interest.
NFL is down because:
-Cost of Attendance continues to escalate...this alienates game popularity (even on TV)
-Too politicized (we get enough of that crap just trying to watch the news...now the NFL is being looked at a societal compass. PFFFTT...no thanks. It's a f'n game...)
-Star power is lacking
-Other sports becoming more popular
-Entertainment and loyalty value is lessening do to poor rule changes (defenders can't hit, no celebrating...league more concerned on PR than play, commissioner is hypocritical idiot in policy)
-Cost of Attendance continues to escalate...this alienates game popularity (even on TV)
-Too politicized (we get enough of that crap just trying to watch the news...now the NFL is being looked at a societal compass. PFFFTT...no thanks. It's a f'n game...)
-Star power is lacking
-Other sports becoming more popular
-Entertainment and loyalty value is lessening do to poor rule changes (defenders can't hit, no celebrating...league more concerned on PR than play, commissioner is hypocritical idiot in policy)
The NFL's popularity is just as contingent upon rivalries and stars.
People loved watching Brady and Manning. That's gone now.
A Dallas vs New England or Dallas Pittsburgh Super Bowl would be a rating gold mine.
The faces of the NFL are young and sometimes immature. Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott are a start but Cam Newton turns some people off with his childish behavior on interviews and on the sidelines.
Brees and Rodgers are aging and while still great players, are on the down side of their careers.
It's all cyclical. If Derek Carr and Dak Prescott meet in a couple of Super Bowl, the ratings will rebound.
I just believe we are transitioning eras
People loved watching Brady and Manning. That's gone now.
A Dallas vs New England or Dallas Pittsburgh Super Bowl would be a rating gold mine.
The faces of the NFL are young and sometimes immature. Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott are a start but Cam Newton turns some people off with his childish behavior on interviews and on the sidelines.
Brees and Rodgers are aging and while still great players, are on the down side of their careers.
It's all cyclical. If Derek Carr and Dak Prescott meet in a couple of Super Bowl, the ratings will rebound.
I just believe we are transitioning eras
Don't forget too that more and more people are cord cutting and getting rid of cable or dish TV completely. The games are hideously long due to endless commercials as well. Add in all of the issues people mentioned above and you get these results
Wouldn't cord cutting also have an effect on college football and NBA?
Both are even or up over last year.
Most NFL games are over the air unless you buy NFL Ticket. Monday Night football and half the Thursday games are cable only.
Both are even or up over last year.
Most NFL games are over the air unless you buy NFL Ticket. Monday Night football and half the Thursday games are cable only.
Excellent points. So I guess cord cutting is not a factor here then. And college football games are even longer with just as many commercials.
So everything I posted is ********. Lol. Carry on....
The NBA needs to call traveling and not reward players for running as hard as they can into a crowd of people and going to the foul line. Seems some players get all the calls. I cant stand the style of play in the NBA.
Agree rivalries help though.
Agree with this. I think that exactly zero people anywhere quit watching solely based on kneel-gate. However, I think that a LOT of people have curtailed watching after that episode due to a buildup of perceived "activism" in the league; whether the league or the players are involved.
Chipping away at the perception of the NFL being a "man's game" (or however you want to put it) is kind of like chipping away at the patriotic nature / USA brand of NASCAR. Doesn't really play with the core viewer IMHO.
I'm really curious to see how college football ratings are impacted with expansion into Friday night as well.
Liked your post because one, you agreed with me, two, I was a huge Nascar fan right up until they went corporate and forgot their base along the way. Haven't watched 10 minutes combined all year, this year.
Dak Prescott worked for me. I have watched the least amount of NFL games ever, but the ones i hve watched have been Dallas, and them standing for the anthem and dak prescott have a lot to do with it. Ive never liked the cowboys, but their style and daks play combined with his selfless go to work attitude is refreshing compared to the look at me players.
NFL needs more teams like Dallas and players like Dak imo.
... only if Dak wasn't on the Cowboys. Jerruh Jones is now the self-confirmed smartest cookie in the world.
Agree.
My youngest brother loves the Cowgirls and my younger brother loves the Donkeys. My dad loves the Patriots.
I hate the Patriots and have never liked the Cowgirls... but I have been watching the Cowboys play this year after reading about Dak off the field. I just watched them with my father-in-law and found myself rooting for them, even though I was rooting for the Lions when we sat down to watch.
I am every NFL fans most hated person. I am a true NFL bandwagon fan as far as watching it on tv goes. I don't wear or buy anything for any team, but I enjoy watching good football. I sat next to my brother and helped him cheer on his Broncos last year, although I didn't care if they won or not.
Honestly, I was a fan of Kaepernick until the kneeling thing. Now me, the casual fan, will not watch him. I will still watch the NFL but not him or his team.
I hated Manning until the only year I was in a fantasy football league and he was my QB. After that I didn't hate him and he is a good person, so I didn't mind cheering for him with my brother last January.
Until the few years, I had not watched the NBA since I was young. I never liked LBJ (or I should say, the constant coverage and love-fest for LBJ made me dislike him - much like Tebow) and there were no other 'stars' worth a damn. The Golden State angle got me interested. At least a 'villain' can be painted (either LeBron or Draymond and crew) and you can have a fun rooting interest. The biggest problem that the NBA had before GSW came around is that the best team to compete with LeBron was the Spurs and they are somewhat unhateable and vanilla.
I agree with you on the traveling part. I also wish some of the 'stars' would play defense (Mello, Harden, etc).
NBA thug game? Please expand because I don't know if your gripe is with poor officiating refusing to call a travel or highly skilled players than the game has ever seen. Maybe it's something else.
The best thing for the NFL would be to get America's team back in the super bowl. The world is a better place when the Cowboys and Huskers win championships.
Do you mean Steelers and Huskers?
Because the Steelers are really America's team.
Neither are American's team, don't think we have one since the late 1980's and it sure wasn't any of the Texass teams.
I grew up with the old AFL and became a Raiders fan at a young age. Watched Sunday football for years and I think it just got boring. As most teams go, the Raiders (just an example) were always good and then had some great years as many teams did. They always seemed to be in the hunt. Then they hit a bad streak for several years and I got busy raising kids and building schools and I lost interest. I cant remember when I watched a full game much less a double header. I cant tell you all the players on the Raiders, they move around so much. And I dont see the young people much into FB. We sponsor the super bowl party for our church youth group and out of 30 or more kids I dont know 2 who have a clue about any team. In our day if you said super bowl party the guys were glued to the old tv and we didnt notice if girls were even in the room. The pro game to me doesnt have the wide open feel of the college game and then there is the expansion of teams. I would much rather watch a college game of schools I dont follow than a pro game.
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your college team blows and your nfl team has built itself from total **** into a contender?
Pretty close. Laughing I'm not saying just this year...I'm talking last 3-4 years...even the 3-4 win years...lol
From a public persona standpoint there are plenty of admirable guys in the NBA. There's some type of stigma that NBA players are a menace to society, but that is the furthest from the truth. I don't think I'm going out on a limb saying the present day guys have better character than some of the past guys you might have considered 'role models'. Thug league compared to what other sport???
Back when Cowherd was on ESPN (I wish he still was, I haven't heard him since he left, so if he's on Omaha radio somebody please tell me where) I listened to a segment he did on NBA players versus NFL players, and the stats were really lopsided in favor of NBA guys in terms of good dudes versus not so good dudes. Surprised me actually.