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I watched the whole game again on YouTube when I got home. On Oregon's last possession they completed a pass to Nelson that was a big gain to midfield. He ran a simple out pattern and was uncovered and wide open. The closest player was Aaron Williams but was totally out of position to make the play. He was lined up pre snap near the end of the line between the tackle and the slot receiver. He bit on the play action fake and was two steps late. We were clearly in our nickel or maybe even dime package so I am assuming Williams was the nickel back on the play.

Question for those who know far more about such things than I: was Nelson his responsibility or did one of the corners blow the coverage? It was a huge play and if not for the holding call a couple plays later it might have spelled disaster. How do we let a receiver in that critical situation get that wide open?
 
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1. Nelson is a very good receiver
2. They picked on A Williams (#24) on three straight plays on that last drive. However, he bucked up when he needed to. I do think he may have made an error on one or two of those plays mentioned (in fairness, we still made quite a few errors overall-Banker, MRI, and others attested to this too)

GBR
 

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https://nebraska.rivals.com/news/video-mark-banker-dissects-oregon-game-looks-ahead-to-northwestern
Listen to Banker here, he explains exactly what happened thru that whole series. I really enjoy listening to him. He tells it like it is. He has no ego and admits every mistake. LIke this guy more and more.

Man, it is so refreshing to have coaches that are willing to discuss stuff. Mark Banker is my second favorite coach to listen to, dude doesn't hold anything back. There's some video from this past weekend where he says, "like sh**". I about fell over when I heard that.
 

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We all know it bothers you, but the Huskers are 3-0.

I know! And then he predicts the Huskers 48-10 against NW this week. Not sure if he's serious. We're all high-fiving and celebrating. I'm picturing him, Dammit, we won! :mad:
 
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I know! And then he predicts the Huskers 48-10 against NW this week. Not sure if he's serious. We're all high-fiving and celebrating. I'm picturing him, Dammit, we won! :mad:
We all know it bothers you, but the Huskers are 3-0.
does not bother me at all and in fact I very happy we beat Oregon and it was a great win but to claim that win is because of great defense is to just stick your head in the sand
 
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I know! And then he predicts the Huskers 48-10 against NW this week. Not sure if he's serious. We're all high-fiving and celebrating. I'm picturing him, Dammit, we won! :mad:
So I am confused are you Lloyd and GBR( we all know who he really is) is Harry or is he Lloyd and you are Harry - cant quite figure it out
 

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So I am confused are you Lloyd and GBR( we all know who he really is) is Harry or is he Lloyd and you are Harry - cant quite figure it out

Drinking this early? Read your post when you're sober, cuz it makes zero sense.
 
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That's what I heard too. Crazy thing is, by just watching the play, it looks like Williams played it wrong. Coach Banker cleared it up.
So I wonder which corner blew the coverage? I don't want to harp on this too much, but we had too many games last year that we lost at the very end due to a blown coverage in the secondary. This time we got bailed out by a holding penalty. We won't always be so fortunate.
 

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So I wonder which corner blew the coverage? I don't want to harp on this too much, but we had too many games last year that we lost at the very end due to a blown coverage in the secondary. This time we got bailed out by a holding penalty. We won't always be so fortunate.

Not sure, didn't pay that close of attention. I don't see the holding as a bail out though, if he's not held they lose yardage on the play as we had 3 guys in perfect position. The guy that was held (or hooked) turns that play in for the other 2 defenders.
 
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Not sure, didn't pay that close of attention. I don't see the holding as a bail out though, if he's not held they lose yardage on the play as we had 3 guys in perfect position. The guy that was held (or hooked) turns that play in for the other 2 defenders.
Good points. And I agree. And despite what Brock Huard said, our guy was definitely held.
 

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  • Rush defense ranked 88th
  • Pass eff defense #15
  • Scoring defense - #41
  • Total defense - #55
we are not a top 10 or even 20 defense not even close
I don't think many people would argue Nebraska's defense is top 10, but it's not as bad as you seem to be implying. Those statistics you posted, while starting to give a better measure three games into the season, can still be a little misleading at this point, because a lot of schools have not played much in the way of competition.

Take Florida for instance, who is ranked #1 in both Total Defense and Scoring Defense. They have played Massachusetts, Kentucky and North Texas. Massachusetts ranks dead last (128th of 128 teams) in FBS in both Total Offense and Scoring Offense; Kentucky is a little better (67th in Total Offense and tied for 53rd in Scoring Offense), but a lot of their statistics are bolstered by a big scoring and yardage game against a bad New Mexico State team last week (prior to that game they ranked 121st in Total Offense and 107th in Scoring Offense); and North Texas isn't much better than UMass at 119th in Total Offense and 106th in Scoring Offense.

By comparison, Oregon ranks 10th in Total Offense and 19th in Scoring Offense, they also rank 8th in Rushing Offense, so take that into account when looking at Nebraska's Rush Defense ranking; prior to the Oregon game, Nebraska ranked 21st in Rush Defense, and the yards per game more than doubled from 81 to 166; nobody save Ohio State remaining on Nebraska's schedule is going to have anywhere near the offensive talent that Oregon had, so that should be taken into account too.

The point is, Nebraska certainly has plenty of room for improvement on defense, but acting like those statistics somehow prove Nebraska has a bad defense, after they just played one of the best offensive teams in the country, is ridiculous.
 

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I don't think many people would argue Nebraska's defense is top 10, but it's not as bad as you seem to be implying. Those statistics you posted, while starting to give a better measure three games into the season, can still be a little misleading at this point, because a lot of schools have not played much in the way of competition.

Take Florida for instance, who is ranked #1 in both Total Defense and Scoring Defense. They have played Massachusetts, Kentucky and North Texas. Massachusetts ranks dead last (128th of 128 teams) in FBS in both Total Offense and Scoring Offense; Kentucky is a little better (67th in Total Offense and tied for 53rd in Scoring Offense), but a lot of their statistics are bolstered by a big scoring and yardage game against a bad New Mexico State team last week (prior to that game they ranked 121st in Total Offense and 107th in Scoring Offense); and North Texas isn't much better than UMass at 119th in Total Offense and 106th in Scoring Offense.

By comparison, Oregon ranks 10th in Total Offense and 19th in Scoring Offense, they also rank 8th in Rushing Offense, so take that into account when looking at Nebraska's Rush Defense ranking; prior to the Oregon game, Nebraska ranked 21st in Rush Defense, and the yards per game more than doubled from 81 to 166; nobody save Ohio State remaining on Nebraska's schedule is going to have anywhere near the offensive talent that Oregon had, so that should be taken into account too.

The point is, Nebraska certainly has plenty of room for improvement on defense, but acting like those statistics somehow prove Nebraska has a bad defense, after they just played one of the best offensive teams in the country, is ridiculous.
Sure we made some mistakes but it seems we are doing what we need to do to overcome those mistakes and win. Which is a nice change given what we have been accustomed to in the past.
 
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Sure we made some mistakes but it seems we are doing what we need to do to overcome those mistakes and win. Which is a nice change given what we have been accustomed to in the past.
This is so key! There's no ego in this staff. They are willing to admit when they're wrong and make adjustments. No stubborness.
 
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Why is it when I look at Banker I see Dennis Hopper? Anyone else see it?
 

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I don't think many people would argue Nebraska's defense is top 10, but it's not as bad as you seem to be implying. Those statistics you posted, while starting to give a better measure three games into the season, can still be a little misleading at this point, because a lot of schools have not played much in the way of competition.

Take Florida for instance, who is ranked #1 in both Total Defense and Scoring Defense. They have played Massachusetts, Kentucky and North Texas. Massachusetts ranks dead last (128th of 128 teams) in FBS in both Total Offense and Scoring Offense; Kentucky is a little better (67th in Total Offense and tied for 53rd in Scoring Offense), but a lot of their statistics are bolstered by a big scoring and yardage game against a bad New Mexico State team last week (prior to that game they ranked 121st in Total Offense and 107th in Scoring Offense); and North Texas isn't much better than UMass at 119th in Total Offense and 106th in Scoring Offense.

By comparison, Oregon ranks 10th in Total Offense and 19th in Scoring Offense, they also rank 8th in Rushing Offense, so take that into account when looking at Nebraska's Rush Defense ranking; prior to the Oregon game, Nebraska ranked 21st in Rush Defense, and the yards per game more than doubled from 81 to 166; nobody save Ohio State remaining on Nebraska's schedule is going to have anywhere near the offensive talent that Oregon had, so that should be taken into account too.

The point is, Nebraska certainly has plenty of room for improvement on defense, but acting like those statistics somehow prove Nebraska has a bad defense, after they just played one of the best offensive teams in the country, is ridiculous.
Nowhere did I say they were bad I said they were not top 10 or 20 or close to it. But yes you're right pretty small sample size and how it is today it hopefully gets better. However whichever way you shake it out we need to get better in rush defense and in giving up big plays. Hopefully we see that against nw
 

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Nowhere did I say they were bad I said they were not top 10 or 20 or close to it. But yes you're right pretty small sample size and how it is today it hopefully gets better. However whichever way you shake it out we need to get better in rush defense and in giving up big plays. Hopefully we see that against nw

We have good rush defense. It's my opinion we sold out the run to stop UO's passing game. Took away their strength. Won the game.
 

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I don't think many people would argue Nebraska's defense is top 10, but it's not as bad as you seem to be implying. Those statistics you posted, while starting to give a better measure three games into the season, can still be a little misleading at this point, because a lot of schools have not played much in the way of competition.

You saw the post he was responding to - the click bait about Nebraska being the 8th best defense, right?
And I agree that the stats are misleading. I believe that Nebraska is a better rush defense than pass defense, despite what the stats say.
 

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You saw the post he was responding to - the click bait about Nebraska being the 8th best defense, right?
And I agree that the stats are misleading. I believe that Nebraska is a better rush defense than pass defense, despite what the stats say.

I agree that Nebraska has a better rush D than pass D. But I'm not sure how you would call Pro Football Focus "click bait", they do alot of advanced stats and analysis and are very well respected, I see them quoted by other sportswriters often.

Here are their write-up's on each B1G team, where they mention Nebraska's O and D rankings.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/college-football-michigan-tops-ranking-big-ten-contenders-week-4/
 
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  • Rush defense ranked 88th
  • Pass eff defense #15
  • Scoring defense - #41
  • Total defense - #55
we are not a top 10 or even 20 defense not even close

I feel so bad for you. I know how much you want to hate Banker. I hope Northwestern goes off for 40 points and 500 yards so you can maintain your "Anti-Banker" narrative.

And you should be careful referencing those stats. Nebraska is about to play Northwestern and Illinois back to back. Those are two teams with dumpster fire offenses. I wouldn't be surprised if the Huskers were top 25 Nationally (statistically) in total defense by October 1st.

Then what will you do?
 

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I feel so bad for you. I know how much you want to hate Banker. I hope Northwestern goes off for 40 points and 500 yards so you can maintain your "Anti-Banker" narrative.

And you should be careful referencing those stats. Nebraska is about to play Northwestern and Illinois back to back. Those are two teams with dumpster fire offenses. I wouldn't be surprised if the Huskers were top 25 Nationally (statistically) in total defense by October 1st.

Then what will you do?
I don't hate banker the person if you are implying that, I don't like his defenses. I just want the team to play great defense how is this so bad to you
 

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I think its because they seem to be so much improved over last year, but that doesn't seem to be good enough. They have to be great now.
 

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Nowhere did I say they were bad I said they were not top 10 or 20 or close to it. But yes you're right pretty small sample size and how it is today it hopefully gets better. However whichever way you shake it out we need to get better in rush defense and in giving up big plays. Hopefully we see that against nw
You say we need better rush defense. It's a good thing your buddy Bo isn't still here or it would be even worse.
 

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I don't hate banker the person if you are implying that, I don't like his defenses. I just want the team to play great defense how is this so bad to you


I never implied you hate Banker the person. You've been the Chief Engineer of the "Banker Sucks Train" for the last 20 months, and your stance is unwavering.

You just want to be proven right in your assessment. Message board supremacy means more to you than Husker success.

The defense in year two is dramatically improved in year two. That same Oregon team would've dropped 50+ on the 2014 or 2015 defenses.
 
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But I'm not sure how you would call Pro Football Focus "click bait", they do alot of advanced stats and analysis and are very well respected, I see them quoted by other sportswriters often.

Honestly, I'm not that familiar with them. Generally when I hear something unrealistic, particularly in terms of lists, I assume it's click bait. Do you really think Nebraska is the sixth best defense in the nation? I don't. Apparently jedihusker doesn't believe anyone would argue that they are. But I still clicked the link you provided to see if they had any rationale behind the unrealistic statement. They didn't. I'm guessing they weigh interceptions heavily in their calculation, and so Wyoming is getting us a lot of credit by throwing it to our defensive backs.
 

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They can play better, but Oregon had TD passes in 82 straight games, with an Olympian WR. No they weren't great, but good enough to be 3-0. I'll take it.
 

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Honestly, I'm not that familiar with them. Generally when I hear something unrealistic, particularly in terms of lists, I assume it's click bait. Do you really think Nebraska is the sixth best defense in the nation? I don't. Apparently jedihusker doesn't believe anyone would argue that they are. But I still clicked the link you provided to see if they had any rationale behind the unrealistic statement. They didn't. I'm guessing they weigh interceptions heavily in their calculation, and so Wyoming is getting us a lot of credit by throwing it to our defensive backs.


Actually PRO Football focus is stating Nebraska is grading out in the top 8 on offense and defense thru the first 3 games of the season.

Its all relative. They grade on performance and execution. They aren't evaluating talent. For instance, Mike Rose-Ivey might only be the #29 OLB in his class according to NFL Scouts.

But when they look at PRO football Focus they can see he's grading out among the best players at his position. That means his reads are accurate. He is choosing the best routes to the ball carrier, and not making mistakes in coverage. It also factors in one on one play making.

At this point in the season, Nebraska is executing at a high level. Dylan Utter, for example, is grading out as one of the top centers in the country.

There isn't a better testament to coaching than this factor. Nobody is going to accuse Dylan utter and Ross Dzuris of being uber talented, but their execution is high level right now.
 
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One thing that needs to be addressed is the definitions of pressure and sacks. I will agree Nebraska needs to get more sacks. I will disagree that they don't put pressure on the QB. I think people define pressure with sacks because that is the only measure. But if you look at the number of times QBs threw the ball away or threw incomplete because they threw earlier than they wanted, you will see there is pressure being generated.
 

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Actually PRO Football focus is stating Nebraska is grading out in the top 8 on offense and defense thru the first 3 games of the season.

Its all relative. They grade on performance and execution. They aren't evaluating talent. For instance, Mike Rose-Ivey might only be the #29 OLB in his class according to NFL Scouts.

But when they look at PRO football Focus they can see he's grading out among the best players at his position. That means his reads are accurate. He is choosing the best routes to the ball carrier, and not making mistakes in coverage. It also factors in one on one play making.

At this point in the season, Nebraska is executing at a high level. Dylan Utter, for example, is grading out as one of the top centers in the country.

There isn't a better testament to coaching than this factor. Nobody is going to accuse Dylan utter and Ross Dzuris of being uber talented, but their execution is high level right now.

Here is their prediction for Saturday:


No. 20 Nebraska at Northwestern

Line: Nebraska, -7.5

Under/Over: 48

Nebraska owns the country’s third-highest graded offensive line on run blocks through three weeks, and while the Wildcats have been stout defensively, they’ve yet to face an offense anywhere near the talent and depth of the Cornhuskers, and there’s no reason to expect the offense to pick up this week either.

Prediction: Nebraska 27, Northwestern 13