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Pretty telling when our FB is our best back.

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those who keep pushing how good Newby is because of X, Y and Z, you can stop. Yes, the offense sputtered at times and the D, well that's an entirely different issue.

However, Newby gives this offense NO second gear, NO vision, NO push, NO cutting ability.......

I guess Wilbon must be in a full body cast or in a WC for not getting in the game, period. What a joke.

Props to Janovich. The guy is a baller. If Newby demonstrated half the physical desire and second effort Janovich brings, he'd be a decent back.
 
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and that underlines the problem this coaching staff is facing up and down the roster. Pelini and company were simply doing a terrible job recruiting and once they got them here, couldn't develop them at all. I wish people would see the correlation when, after four games, they're claiming Banker is clueless and Riley is a failure.

they can only do so much with what they've been given.
 
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HuskersMan34 said:
and that underlines the problem this coaching staff is facing up and down the roster. Pelini and company were simply doing a terrible job recruiting and once they got them here, couldn't develop them at all. I wish people would see the correlation when, after four games, they're claiming Banker is clueless and Riley is a failure.

they can only do so much with what they've been given.
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Giving him his first touch in game 4 IS NOT ON PELINI!
 
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leodisflowers said:
Was Wilbon hurt?
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i don't know. I saw him standing on the sideline suited up. it has to be something more than lack of pass pro skills. i really think if they'd give him a shot, perhaps we'd see a back who brought better vision, a quicker burst through the hold, and didn't fall down at the first tackle.

I don't know what the coaches aren't seeing in Wilbon. If they don't think he should start at this point fine. But good Lord, if they think Newby is the answer, especially given Janovich's performance today, then we're screwed against great running D's as Mich State's. Love Tommy's passing prowess, his improvement is incredible. How's it going to be in bad weather and D's who have a pass rush? No solid running game is the recipe for a loss. We saw it today in our inability to score in the RZ and have to settle for FG's.
 
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i don't know. I saw him standing on the sideline suited up. it has to be something more than lack of pass pro skills. i really think if they'd give him a shot, perhaps we'd see a back who brought better vision, a quicker burst through the hold, and didn't fall down at the first tackle.

I don't know what the coaches aren't seeing in Wilbon. If they don't think he should start at this point fine. But good Lord, if they think Newby is the answer, especially given Janovich's performance today, then we're screwed against great running D's as Mich State's. Love Tommy's passing prowess, his improvement is incredible. How's it going to be in bad weather and D's who have a pass rush? No solid running game is the recipe for a loss. We saw it today in our inability to score in the RZ and have to settle for FG's.
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Ozigbo was in before Wilbon. Something had to go on. Don't know what, but Cross and Znewby are not the answer
 
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HuskerBandGeek said:
How often did Pelini get him the ball?

I'll wait.
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Wasn't he a true freshman under Pelini? Oh ya, we had another back you might have heard of, Ameer Abdullah. So your question is rather lame.

So please explain to me why Newby is such a great RB? I'll wait.....
 
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Gemini6 said:
i don't know. I saw him standing on the sideline suited up. it has to be something more than lack of pass pro skills. i really think if they'd give him a shot, perhaps we'd see a back who brought better vision, a quicker burst through the hold, and didn't fall down at the first tackle.

I don't know what the coaches aren't seeing in Wilbon. If they don't think he should start at this point fine. But good Lord, if they think Newby is the answer, especially given Janovich's performance today, then we're screwed against great running D's as Mich State's. Love Tommy's passing prowess, his improvement is incredible. How's it going to be in bad weather and D's who have a pass rush? No solid running game is the recipe for a loss. We saw it today in our inability to score in the RZ and have to settle for FG's.
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I don't understand what's going on with the runningback position, but at this point in their careers, I trust they know what they're doing. Maybe Wilbon just looks lost in practice. Maybe he's a malcontent. It's really confusing that they were basically having him split carries in game 1, and he's barely seen the field since then. Clearly they have some kind of issue with him. Going to Janovich as much as they did today, as well as calling QB keepers more than they have all season tells me it's not a Pelini-esque "we like Newby so we're going with him no matter what" approach. They're willing to try an alternative, they just don't think Wilbon is it.
 
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Gemini6 said:
Wasn't he a true freshman under Pelini? Oh ya, we had another back you might have heard of, Ameer Abdullah. So your question is rather lame.

So please explain to me why Newby is such a great RB? I'll wait.....
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Where did I ever say Newby was great. In fact, I don't think he should be starting. He lacks decisiveness, dances in the hole, and fails to cut back/run north to south. Your point was no one got the fullback involved for four games, I'm pretty sure over twelve games last year we didn't run the ball with Ameer every down. So there were opportunities to get the fullback the ball and they didn't. So, basically, you're wrong and you should feel bad about it.
 
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Gemini6 said:
Wasn't he a true freshman under Pelini? Oh ya, we had another back you might have heard of, Ameer Abdullah. So your question is rather lame.

So please explain to me why Newby is such a great RB? I'll wait.....
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I'm fairly certain you're arguing something entirely different.
 
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HuskerBandGeek said:
How often did Pelini get him the ball?

I'll wait.
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Never, he is an idiot. Using the Tight Ends and Full Backs would have been a game changer for years.
If Janovich gets touches in all 4 games we're 4-0 this year. The guy is a game changer.
 
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Gimmered said:
Never, he is an idiot. Using the Tight Ends and Full Backs would have been a game changer for years.
If Janovich gets touches in all 4 games we're 4-0 this year. The guy is a game changer.
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HOLY ****. I mean, I had a feeling you didn't know much about football but DAMN. You're as close to knowing literally nothing as I've ever seen on this board.
 
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HuskersMan34 said:
and that underlines the problem this coaching staff is facing up and down the roster. Pelini and company were simply doing a terrible job recruiting and once they got them here, couldn't develop them at all. I wish people would see the correlation when, after four games, they're claiming Banker is clueless and Riley is a failure.

they can only do so much with what they've been given.
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So do you figure that the new staff will do better at recruiting, or are we just stuck?
 
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HuskersMan34 said:
I think they've already done better. I think they'll be better at developing talent too.
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You can think this, but history doesn't support it. Riley's teams finish pretty much where they were ranked as recruits.
 
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Gemini6 said:
Wasn't he a true freshman under Pelini? Oh ya, we had another back you might have heard of, Ameer Abdullah. So your question is rather lame.

So please explain to me why Newby is such a great RB? I'll wait.....
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Holy cow Gemini6, nice job following your own thread. HuskerBandGeek is asking you how many times Janovich got the ball under Pelini (our last coach), not Newby. The answer is next to none and the kid is a senior now. Remember when Jano jokingly tweeted if Riley liked fullbacks? Sheesh. It was about time Riley and Langsdorf finally figured that out.
 
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This whole thread is stupid. Newby is at 5.7 ypc (4.5 today) and 126 all-purpose ypg through the first four games of a new system with four new O-linemen. We are averaging 33 minutes in TOP and over 36 points a game. So yeah, let's call out Newby......or ANYONE on the offensive side of the ball. Jeesh.
Janovich had a great game....celebrate that and be happy d-coordinators now have another thing to worry about.
 
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huskerbux said:
This whole thread is stupid. Newby is at 5.7 ypc (4.5 today) and 126 all-purpose ypg through the first four games of a new system with four new O-linemen. We are averaging 33 minutes in TOP and over 36 points a game. So yeah, let's call out Newby......or ANYONE on the offensive side of the ball. Jeesh.
Janovich had a great game....celebrate that and be happy d-coordinators now have another thing to worry about.
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I don't know Bux. IMO, Newby to date does not pass the eyeball test of a rugged, Big Ten back. He needs to be better in terms of toughness, vision and running through arm tackles. I am throwing out the Southern Bama game. It was cotton candy, meaningless as a measure of our teams strengths.
 
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Some people will read in to anything as long as something can be seen to benefit their agenda. How many of his 5 carries were the benefit of a defense that was fooled by the offense? I know his two big runs were. Does that really make him our best back or does that really show you how bare the cupboard is? Not at all and until he produces consistently better than others around him I don't see how one could possibly believe this is the case.
 
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I'm not at all sold on Newby, but Janovich having a big game didn't shift my opinion on Newby one way or the other. Newby had a big day against South Alabama, Janovich had a big day today - neither convinces me that NU has the makings of a strong running game if only [fill in "other guy's" name here] was getting more carries.

I do like the use of the fullback - something that I think few teams prepare for these days. But it tells me nothing about who should be getting playing time at RB.
 
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HuskerNinja said:
I don't know Bux. IMO, Newby to date does not pass the eyeball test of a rugged, Big Ten back. He needs to be better in terms of toughness, vision and running through arm tackles. I am throwing out the Southern Bama game. It was cotton candy, meaningless as a measure of our teams strengths.
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Ninja, I'll give you he's not Ameer, Burkhead or Helu for that matter. I guess my point is, our offense shouldn't be the one on the chopping block today. We are producing enough O to beat anyone on our schedule regardless of who is running the ball. Defense needs to slow SOMEBODY down otherwise Adrian Peterson won't be able to help!
 
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HuskersMan34 said:
And that would be relevant, if we weren't talking about Oregon State.
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History is a hell of a lot more relevant than wishful thinking. If we can't judge a man on actual accomplishments, what can we judge him on?
 
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Gimmered said:
You can think this, but history doesn't support it. Riley's teams finish pretty much where they were ranked as recruits.
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Are you sure about that? I thought I saw that they were one of the most overachieving in terms of recruiting rankings vs final season rankings.
 
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Gimmered said:
History is a hell of a lot more relevant than wishful thinking. If we can't judge a man on actual accomplishments, what can we judge him on?
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Actually, Riley's teams consistently finished much higher than his recruiting rankings. Your statement is blatantly false.
 
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Are you sure about that? I thought I saw that they were one of the most overachieving in terms of recruiting rankings vs final season rankings.
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Not in the ranking I've seen. If you can find others I'd like to see them.
 
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Newby is good at blocking, actually really good at blocking and OK at catching, he is not a good runner at this point. I would let Wilbon get most of the running play carries. Not sure why coaches don't see this, maybe he is in the dog house or injured?

Our FB is awesome at blocking and hitting the hole, he is probably our best player in the backfield.

Not sure what is up with the Pass D I hope Riley can make adjustments or recruit people needed to run the D. Man watching Nebraska is so frustrating, Cosgrove couldn't stop the pass or run to save his life, Bo couldn't stop the run to save his life, but was good at pass pro, I was hoping we would have at least OK pass pro but it does remind you of a Cosgrove D except we are better on the run D.

Glad the kids won one, I'm just hoping they get to a bowl game at this point.
 
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