Starkville also has a Tommy John's, Jersey Mikes, Firehouse and Subway. Pretty impressive list of long bun sandwich meal options. Might be others tucked into some of the strip shopping centers too.
OT: 2020 Census state populations released
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Tupelo is better, along with Pontotoc and New Albany. Toyota has had an impact.
Starkville can share the Mexican restaurant per capita crown with Hernando. We have 6 right now.
Desoto County has, and will continue to blow up. Fed Ex Ground has a huge distribution hub in OB. There's tons of distribution/warehouse stuff blowing up in Southaven. The I-269 corridor will eventually lead to stuff developing along the southern end of the county. In some ways it's frustrating because the congestion and traffic is next level bad and it's only going to get worse. But it's good for the county and the state.
Buddy, have I got some news for you! There's a 4TH new Mexican restaurant across the street from Dave's.
Amazon is opening a $500M DC in Madison County in a few months. And I've heard there might be more announcements about the megasite complex coming soon.
Without investigating closely, I'd guess it's a difference in when they are taking numbers.
Science / math actually says your decimal needs to move over a couple a couple of spots when expressing the number as a percentage. You just divided without multiplying by 100. Actual numbers are 0.17% (or 0.2% if rounded like you did above).
Either you're not keeping up or just being negative. You have the big arena on the coast, Ingalls keeps getting millions upon millions in contracts, Hattiesburg is very quietly straight getting it done, the new sawmill in Winona, in addition to the other things listed here. Desoto keeps booming, Joe Max keeps winning too.
Marshall County is getting another too, I believe, right near their first one. I-269 doin' work...
Maybe I'm just being negative, but it's hard for me to put those in context over a decade or two. Yes, those things are great (although I don't know what arena you are referencing on the coast; the Gulf Coast COliseum? They did a big a good sized expansion behind the coliseum where they do a lot of expos probably not long after Katrina), but they seem sort of like ho hum growth looked at over two decades. Regardless, at least over the last decade, apparently the parts of the state that are doing well were not enough to make up for the parts of the state not doing well. Most states still had population growth but we did not.
Here: https://www.wlox.com/2020/10/15/wat...-new-billion-hotel-entertainment-destination/
Our population growth has been ho-hum lately, but you have to give these things time to actually affect the economy. The influx should come later. And no, we won't grow like Georgia or Tennessee, but trying to catch up to Arkansas, and shooting for what Alabama has, isn't out of the picture.
Here's another link for you: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778234
On one hand, you can say COVID is still behind heart disease and cancer. Obviously this won't strike fear in anyone. Those are known risks but they don't particularly scare anyone.
But....
If you considerd the 2019 deaths were zero, and in one year COVID was half of heart disease and cancer?? Eeek.
Bottom line at the end of this mess, is that it's no reason to panic, but it's still very, very real to a lot of people. I had a friend of mine die of a massive heart attack right at the beginning of COVID, and it's still like he vanished off the face of the earth.
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Gotcha. Didn't think of that as an arena. But there have been a few large developments (not quite that large) announced for the coast in the past decade that never get off the ground. This does have much stronger local people behind it, so something is going to happen there, and if I had to bet money on it, I'd bet something close to what was announced will actually be built, but I'd still put it at not much better than 50/50.
fair enough
I'm sorry for your loss. I didn't have anyone die "from" COVID; but it prevented my father-in-law from receiving the care he needed. Leukemia hit him in March of '20, right as everything was shutting down. At the hospital they told him he could stay in the hospital for treatment, but family would not be allowed in AT ALL for the duration of treatment or he could go home on hospice...he said he'd rather die with his family than alone, so he did. He was gone less than a month later.
Mississippi will be the first majority African American state, but that is still decades down the road. Considering that 5-10 percent of white Mississippians (possibly more) will vote democrat, how long before democrats have significant influence on statewide elections?
I bet Georgia gets there first. I have no numbers to back this up, but MS loses a big amount of AAs to GA yearly, I think I read an article about that.
As bad as COVID has been, we've probably done a lot more harm with stupid responses to it.
Georgia is likely getting in migration of all races. Mississippi's white population is shrinking (down 48k over last ten years) while AA, hispanic, and Asian are growing.
As people move out from population centers, the republican/conservative majority will weaken. Currently, you have "hotspots" of democratic majority around the areas with the highest population density. As that density declines, it'd probably be safe to bet that the republican/conservative majority in the areas around those centers will become diluted. Current democratic led jurisdictions will retain their leadership and ideologies while historically conservative towns/cities will begin to experience a shift in voting tendency.
A potential way to combat this on the state level would be for an ingest of conservativism into the vacuum left by democratic voters around the population centers, which would even out the swing of the pendulum.
I don't think it is quite decades down the road, but I'd agree on it being a few years out.
A potential way to combat this on the state level would be for an ingest of conservativism into the vacuum left by democratic voters around the population centers, which would even out the swing of the pendulum.
I don't think it is quite decades down the road, but I'd agree on it being a few years out.
Most likely already is or at least very close to 50-50. Census non-compliance covers up this fact. When everyone votes you will see a big shift. This is why they want to make it as difficult as possible to cast a ballot and draw congressional districts to make a close to 50-50 state 3/4 red.
MS is 38% AA and GA is 32% AA. In MS AA numbers are growing while the white population is decreasing. In GA the AA percentage is roughly holding serve, in MS the percentage of AA increased by 6% from 2010 to 2010.
Everybody who could vote, voted this year: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-elections/mississippi-president-results
Pretty much mirrors those percentages, and like another poster said, you have to assume 5-10% of white Mississippians went for Biden.
I think the census generally gets it right. Where they get it wrong is generally in the rural areas and those areas don't make up a big percentage.
Tupelo, Starkville, Oxford, and the cities near the NWMS/SWTN line seem to be doing well. I would bet on those numbers to grow and jobs to make their way into those communities in the coming decades.
Population from last 3 census:
(20 is 19 est.)
KSTF
00: 21k
10: 23k
20: 25k
KTUP
00: 34k
10: 34k
20: 38k
KUOX
00: 11k
10: 18k
20: 28k
KOLV
00: 21k
10: 33k
20: 38k
Southaven
00: 28k
10: 48k
20: 55k
I'm actually surprised Tupelo is not growing faster. They have some advantages (being between BHM and MEM on US-78 and getting 4 1/2 mil per year from govt subsidies for Essential Air scheduled service. I think Oxford is deserving of the latter benefit as well and given the right destinations could turn seasonal profits if the airport was upgraded. Starkville has GTR right next door which can take you anywhere in the world through ATL. I think GTR could support scheduled service to other destinations. UOX could support to DFW, especially if the federal government supplemented millions like they do to Tupelo. Delta flies GTR-ATL without subsidy.)
Population from last 3 census:
(20 is 19 est.)
KSTF
00: 21k
10: 23k
20: 25k
KTUP
00: 34k
10: 34k
20: 38k
KUOX
00: 11k
10: 18k
20: 28k
KOLV
00: 21k
10: 33k
20: 38k
Southaven
00: 28k
10: 48k
20: 55k
I'm actually surprised Tupelo is not growing faster. They have some advantages (being between BHM and MEM on US-78 and getting 4 1/2 mil per year from govt subsidies for Essential Air scheduled service. I think Oxford is deserving of the latter benefit as well and given the right destinations could turn seasonal profits if the airport was upgraded. Starkville has GTR right next door which can take you anywhere in the world through ATL. I think GTR could support scheduled service to other destinations. UOX could support to DFW, especially if the federal government supplemented millions like they do to Tupelo. Delta flies GTR-ATL without subsidy.)
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I'd love to see the county numbers. Tupelo may well be remaining somewhat neutral while Lee County is blowing up around it.
Democrats have had "significant influence" on statewide elections in Ms. in the past and would be today if they had not adopted their current far left agenda. I'm not trying to be argumentative, just my humble opinion.
From 2010, probably close to that for Madison and Limestone Counties combined. Baldwin County on the coast is the other rapidly growing area, probably mostly retirees moving south.
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