Tate signs NIL law

[SteelCurtain74]

It becomes effective July 1st

https://www.outkick.com/mississippi...Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1617207619

If the NCAA fights this with the states, is this the straw where the Power 5 finally breaks away from the NCAA?

 

[Go Budaw]

It becomes effective July 1st

https://www.outkick.com/mississippi...Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1617207619

If the NCAA fights this with the states, is this the straw where the Power 5 finally breaks away from the NCAA?

Am I the only one who sees this as pointless? It was never against the actual law for student athletes to receive benefits for their NIL in the first place. In spite of that, its good to see Tate and the MS Legislature making their best effort to assure the mutual athletic destruction of both MSU and OM....great job guys.

 

[mstateglfr]

Fant and his tires would disagree.
A player hasn't been allowed to be a spokesman for a local auto dealer and be paid $100k/commercial.

 

[Go Budaw]

Fant and his tires would disagree.
A player hasn't been allowed to be a spokesman for a local auto dealer and be paid $100k/commercial.

Yes, they absolutely have been allowed to do both of those things by both state and federal law. Just not by the NCAA.

 

[RocketDawg]

Fant and his tires would disagree.
A player hasn't been allowed to be a spokesman for a local auto dealer and be paid $100k/commercial.

That wasn't illegal - against the law - it was just against NCAA rules. Budaw just said it was never illegal, which is true.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Just pay taxes, and all will be ok!

 

[WrapItDog]

I can't think of a single athlete on campus currently that is endorsement worthy

 

[8dog]

I think it says the ncaa cannot take away eligibility if you try to earn money for NIL. I think thats key to it.

 

[Duke Humphrey]

This is a false report. Tate has not signed the bill yet, BUT would be surprised if he didn’t. He has until April 5th to sign or veto.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Pretty sure Rogers and Walley could snag a deal with the local co-op endorsing their cowboy hats.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Yes, they absolutely have been allowed to do both of those things by both state and federal law. Just not by the NCAA.

Meanwhile, this is a lawyer's 'field day!' First personal foul that injures a player, lawyer signs injured player in locker room, files personal injury lawsuit at halftime for loss of future income.

Attorneys saying .. sue anybody with $$!

 

[paindonthurt_]

Why the 17 is the government getting involved in sports?

 

[mstateglfr]

Yes, they absolutely have been allowed to do both of those things by both state and federal law. Just not by the NCAA.

Oh, I gotcha. Yeah, I see what you are saying.
Signing into law in more states is going to push the NCAA to adjust which it already said it plans to do.

 

[anonymous.sixpack]

These are the type of athletes who can really c https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.fr...ate/bulldogs-basketball/article250267720.html ash in...

 

[Go Budaw]

I think it says the ncaa cannot take away eligibility if you try to earn money for NIL. I think thats key to it.

Didn’t see that listed anywhere in the article. And I’m not sure state law supercedes the rules and regulations of a national organization that is also completely voluntary in terms of membership. But its all null and void anyway, the NCAA is heading that direction regardless as they have pretty much already indicated. And MSU and OM both will never be highly competitive again in anything besides baseball once it happens. Hell, both schools are almost at that point now in football and MBB even without it being a thing yet.

 

[Bud.sixpack]

So we go from semi-pro to full blown pro, yeah* I'm out

 

[8dog]

http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/documents/2021/pdf/SB/2300-2399/SB2313SG.pdf

here is the bill. It definitely tries to do that

 

[dog12]

I can't think of a single athlete on campus currently that is endorsement worthy

Seriously.

As a business owner, I wouldn't spend my money on an endorsement from a college kid.

 

[Bud.sixpack]

Exactly, let them start a pro league and we'll see what their value really is. Is it worth a college scholarship and all the perks that come with it?

 

[Dawgg]

Seriously.

As a business owner, I wouldn't spend my money on an endorsement from a college kid.

Yeah, because most of our teams are losing (or just above it) right now and we don’t have any nationally recognized superstars, but just a few years ago, businesses would have been clamoring for an endorsement from Dak or Mangum or Rooker or Morgan William.

 

[GloryDawg]

Just my opinion but this (could be) another step in the breaking up the NCAA. Also the athlete has more grounds to take legal action against the NCAA.

 

[anonymous.sixpack]

Why the 17 is the government getting involved in sports?

Because sports won’t get its head out of the sand.

 

[Go Budaw]

Seriously.

As a business owner, I wouldn't spend my money on an endorsement from a college kid.

It wouldn’t even be your money. Some well-to-do gentlemen would come into your office, say he was excited to become a new customer of yours, and he was ready to use your product / service / whatever for the next 20 years. All he needed from you was to hire his “firm” for contract marketing for basically nothing, let him hire some folks to do ads for your business, and then be on his way. Easy as pie, and it wouldn’t cost you a damn thing. And you’d actually gain a customer.

 

[Go Budaw]

http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/documents/2021/pdf/SB/2300-2399/SB2313SG.pdf

here is the bill. It definitely tries to do that

OK. In the end, it still doesn’t matter. There are only 2 outcomes, the NCAA digs their heels in and starts banning schools / athletes in these states, which would be extremely bad for MSU / OM. Or, they cave (either before or after legal precedent is set by federal court one way or the other) and allow carte blanche NIL everywhere starting immediately, which would also be extremely bad for MSU / OM. The bill is pointless at best, and at worst is categorically self-destructive to our in-state sports and the requisite local economies of the two major SEC college towns in MS. The damn thing should have never been written....period.

 

[8dog]

But it does matter because thats the ultimate result of these laws. Eventually enough states will have them and force the ncaa to cave. These laws are the leverage. If they are not passed the ncaa just sits on its hands

 

[Go Budaw]

But it does matter because thats the point of these laws. Eventually enough states will have them and force the ncaa to cave. These laws are the leverage. If they are not passed the ncaa just sits on its hands

The NCAA sitting on its hands is the absolute best thing possible for MSU and OM. The fact that the legislature (TBD on the governor’s office) are too 17ing stupid to see that is dumbfounding, yet not at all surprising, as usual.

 

[8dog]

Well thats a separate discussion.

 

[johnson86-1]

The NCAA sitting on its hands is the absolute best thing possible for MSU and OM. The fact that the legislature (TBD on the governor’s office) are too 17ing stupid to see that is dumbfounding, yet not at all surprising, as usual.

The NCAA is not going to sit on its hands because California has already passed a law and I believe withstood a legal challenge from the NCAA. The NCAA has already indicated it was going to pass a NIL rule to comply with California's bill.

It doesn't matter what Mississippi does at this point. The result is going to be the same whether Mississippi passes the bill or not. Had Mississippi passed this law earlier, it could have been bad for MSU/Ole Miss because the NCAA could have in theory just excluded MSU/Ole Miss.

 

[maroonmadman]

Another classic example of our gubmint sticking their noses into something they need not stick their noses into, meanwhile all the stuff they SHOULD be sticking their noses into go untouched. At least they upped teacher pay this session so it wasn't a total loss.

 

[SteelCurtain74]

As a business owner, I'm not sure I would be that interested in having a current college athlete endorsing my product/service. I'm not sure there are that many athletes that would rise to the level of consideration for endorsement. All it would take is one misstep from said athlete and it could cause more harm than good. What happens if the athlete gets kicked off the team for disciplinary or academic issues or gets into legal trouble like Jameis Winston? I'm not sure the reward from the endorsement or perceived increase in business would be worth the risk.

It would appear that the athletes best way to earn extra income would be autographs, camps, possibly private lessons and possibly social media. Does anyone know if, for example, Will Rogers started his own Youtube channel but it was related to music or something other than sports and it became monetized, would that income currently be a violation of NCAA rules?

It's my understanding that cheerleaders aren't governed by the NCAA and have been able to secure endorsement deals for years.

 

[8dog]

You run that risk with any endorsement. And Jake Mangum would have made a killing.

 

[MedDawg]

How much for a signed picture of a HS home run hitter?**

nm

 

[MedDawg]

Am I the only one who sees this as pointless? It was never against the actual law for student athletes to receive benefits for their NIL in the first place. In spite of that, its good to see Tate and the MS Legislature making their best effort to assure the mutual athletic destruction of both MSU and OM....great job guys.

The "can't have an agent while in college" thing is law in several states, and I think Mississippi is/was one of them. Illegal for the agent, anyway.

 

[The Peeper]

Bracky Brett standing by to side up w/ the NCAA, cause that's what he does...........

 

[mcdawg22]

You run that risk with any endorsement. And Jake Mangum would have made a killing.

Yes he would. I liked Gorsuch’s comment to the NCAA yesterday “You worry about student athletes getting $6K a year when TV contracts are in the billions. $6K a year is not a lot given injuries and inabilitly to major in what they want. You talk about $6K like it’s an exorbitant amount. It's not.”

 

[johnson86-1]

Yes he would. I liked Gorsuch’s comment to the NCAA yesterday “You worry about student athletes getting $6K a year when TV contracts are in the billions. $6K a year is not a lot given injuries and inabilitly to major in what they want. You talk about $6K like it’s an exorbitant amount. It's not.”

That's a naive comment from Gorsuch to say the least. There's not a big problem with players actually being paid for their NIL. The problem is that NIL is just going to be a funnel for school boosters to pay athletes.

I don't have a problem with athletes getting paid more than they are now, but they are already getting paid as good or better than most minor league athletes and most of the value is being generated by the school and loyalty from its alumni base, so I do think it's fair for the league to try to ensure all of that value isn't captured by the players.