About GME, KOSS, AMC, BB

TheStateUofMS

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I have nothing against folks wanting to try and place a bet here and there and trying to make a quick buck, I just hope you understand this is legit gambling and you're not learning anything about investing. EVERYTHING about these stocks is a completely insane right now and defies all logic. It really is market manipulation. Whether you're making money or losing money, you're not learning anything. I hope everyone understands this is legit gambling, which I'm fine with, but don't put a lot of your hard earned money into these things if you cannot afford to lose it.

Here's to hoping everyone will become good stewards of their money. There's always a place in a portfolio to speculate, but if you put a substantial portion of your money into these stocks or more than you can afford to speculate with, frankly you deserve to lose it because it's an unwise move.
 

TheStateUofMS

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It already was. It was under $50 then exploded higher. I think the guy who made the fundamental case for GME only had a price target of $30-$40.
 

DoggieDaddy13

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We will LEARN that the market is speculative and often times manipulated.

You gotta know when to hold 'em and when to sell those babies! YEEEE-HA! Ride'm Capitalism!!!
 

TheStateUofMS

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You seem to be doing it, jethreauxdawg. You don't think you've learned a lot in the past year? Studying companies, sectors and a little about valuation of a businesses and searching for places to park your money where you think there's going to be considerable market share gains for that particular company over a long time horizon. There's multiple ways to accomplish this from investing in individual stocks, mutual funds, sector ETFs, themed ETS, etc. and there's many vehicles in which to place these investments: IRAs, taxable brokerage accounts, company sponsored plans, etc. There's also lots of strategies about how to build positions over time and figure out the right buy points. Anyone can self educate themselves on this if they put in the time and effort. It's always an ongoing process. It never stops.
 
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paindonthurt_

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People investing in this are absolutely learning something.

It might not be abt fundamental investing but to say they aren’t learning something is lacking intelligent thought.
 

mstateglfr

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People investing in this are absolutely learning something.

It might not be abt fundamental investing but to say they aren’t learning something is lacking intelligent thought.

He didn't claim people aren't learning something.
He is saying people aren't learning anything specifically about investing due to this. He is separating this from investing by calling it gambling.

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It appears many on this site have learned what/how/why short selling is allowed. So that would be one thing people have learned about investing.
 

Jeffreauxdawg

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I've been re-reading Ben Graham's intelligent investor Jethreaux. If you are going to start, that's the place. It is 70 years old and still perfectly relevant. Graham taught Buffett the fundamentals. It's old and boring, but it covers the basics better than any 10 other books.

We have newer mechanisms and fancier methods, but the markets are what they have been for hundreds of years. Fundamental business analysis and greed. It's ultimately like poker. The fundamentals are understanding the cards... Understanding greed is pretty much the same as it is in poker. Some people win by going all in on a queen high... That's awful speculative. The best players win by going all in on a full house.

Like StateU says, have fun with a little. Speculate in small positions. Take a few fliers, some will pay off. But if you want to stand the test of time, learn the fundamentals (even technical stuff like I'm into has to do with fundamentals and not speculation.) There are several stocks I like and want to buy based on technicals, but the fundamentals of the business aren't there. And vice versa. When you get a full house, put more in the pot.
 

paindonthurt_

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But people are learning abt investing. They are learning abt speculation and how it’s not a good strategy.

Learning lots abt investing. What to do. What not to do.

If they bought at $30 and didn’t sell until it collapsed, they hopefully learned how to protect profits.

Could probably name multiple other things.

They are 100% learning something abt investing and finances. Or at least they should be learning something.
 

Dawgology

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The exchanges will just halt buying on it and keep things relatively normalized. Free market is a mirage.
 

mcdawg22

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I have nothing against folks wanting to try and place a bet here and there and trying to make a quick buck, I just hope you understand this is legit gambling and you're not learning anything about investing. EVERYTHING about these stocks is a completely insane right now and defies all logic. It really is market manipulation. Whether you're making money or losing money, you're not learning anything. I hope everyone understands this is legit gambling, which I'm fine with, but don't put a lot of your hard earned money into these things if you cannot afford to lose it.

Here's to hoping everyone will become good stewards of their money. There's always a place in a portfolio to speculate, but if you put a substantial portion of your money into these stocks or more than you can afford to speculate with, frankly you deserve to lose it because it's an unwise move.
K Boomer.
 

DawgInThe256

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[FONT="]The funniest thing about GameStop populism is going to be a bunch of online 17-year-olds suddenly getting extremely pissed off and militant about the capital gains tax— Andrew Egger (@EggerDC) January 28, 2021 [/FONT]
 
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I have nothing against folks wanting to try and place a bet here and there and trying to make a quick buck, I just hope you understand this is legit gambling and you're not learning anything about investing. EVERYTHING about these stocks is a completely insane right now and defies all logic. It really is market manipulation. Whether you're making money or losing money, you're not learning anything. I hope everyone understands this is legit gambling, which I'm fine with, but don't put a lot of your hard earned money into these things if you cannot afford to lose it.

Here's to hoping everyone will become good stewards of their money. There's always a place in a portfolio to speculate, but if you put a substantial portion of your money into these stocks or more than you can afford to speculate with, frankly you deserve to lose it because it's an unwise move.

I haven't touched any Reddit stocks, and I don't plan to, but the market manipulation is on the side of Robinhood and the like when they turn off the buy-side on certain stocks.

And I agree that retail investors involved in this aren't learning a lot about investing fundamentals, but they are learning just how rigged the system is when you go toe-to-toe with the establishment. As they figure this out they will withdraw and look for a market outside of the establishment's control.

The other point I would make is that everyone investing in stocks right now, whether it's the S&P 500, the Nasdaq, or GameStop, is being tricked into believing that they are a lot more savvy investors than they really are. Stocks have been driven by money expansion for years now.* GameStop is insane. But so are stocks in general. It just isn't as obvious at the moment.

*-ETA: M2 money supply has increased 25.7% over the past year. The S&P 500 is up 26.9% in that time. During a global pandemic.
 
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mstateglfr

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And I agree that retail investors involved in this aren't learning a lot about investing fundamentals, but they are learning just how rigged the system is when you go toe-to-toe with the establishment. As they figure this out they will withdraw and look for a market outside of the establishment's control.

Might you recommend a market that is outside of the establishment's control? We all eagerly await your suggestion.**
 
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Might you recommend a market that is outside of the establishment's control? We all eagerly await your suggestion.**

What you would be looking for is a non-sovereign, hardcapped supply, global, immutable, decentralized, digital store of value. It would need to be an insurance policy against monetary and fiscal policy irresponsibility from central banks and governments globally.
 

Jeffreauxdawg

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I think Wagstaff is suggesting...

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ETA ( For those not old enough to remember, Emus were all the rage back in the 90's. Rednecks were dropping everything they had on raising emus.)
 
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jethreauxdawg

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Complete side topic, but what was supposed to be the point of raising emus? Sell it as chicken meat?
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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If you're looking for the next great YOLO, look at a new SPAC called Soaring Eagle Acquisition. They just IPO'd and only units are trading under SRNGU. Commons and Warrants should be available in April, but you can get units right now for under 11 dollars. The downside is that the SPAC might not find a target within 2 years and you get 10 dollars back. This also caps your losses at ~10% (so long as you sell before any merger if the target sucks).

So why SRNG? This is the team that closed the Draft Kings deal last year (currently trading around $60) and Skillz (currently around $30). This SPAC is much larger, around $1.5 billion, so they can go after larger targets. I'm thinking they will go after SportRadar. If SportRadar is seeking a $10-12 billion valuation, they are going to need to combine with a SPAC that is at least $1 billion and can bring in a PIPE just as big. There are only a few SPACs in this category and the ones that have been rumored for SportRadar are all under $700 million. It's almost as if Soaring Eagle is made for this merger.

This is a lot safer than trying to buy GME or another struggling company.

I am not a professional. I hold a position in SRNGU. Invest at your own risk.
 

patdog

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It was supposed to be the healthy meat of the future. Tastes like beef but much lower in fat. I've never tried emu, so I can't vouch for it actually tasting like beef.
 

mstateglfr

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What you would be looking for is a non-sovereign, hardcapped supply, global, immutable, decentralized, digital store of value. It would need to be an insurance policy against monetary and fiscal policy irresponsibility from central banks and governments globally.

Well that sounds like a perfect way to convert my volatile USD into something stable and reliable.
 

mstateglfr

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Complete side topic, but what was supposed to be the point of raising emus? Sell it as chicken meat?

It was supposed to be the healthy meat of the future. Tastes like beef but much lower in fat. I've never tried emu, so I can't vouch for it actually tasting like beef.
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mcdawg22

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I kind of feel like I’m being Kobayashi Maru’d. I have a hard and fast rule about not gambling my future based on random people on the internet. But now some random person on the internet is giving me investment advice by telling me not to listen to some random people on the internet. My head is exploding!
 

dawg0204

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This and selling emu oil was supposed to be a big thing. My dad has a friend who invested in emus and had I think 10 of them at one time. I think he kept them for a couple of years before getting rid of them.

It’s amazing what people will invest in.
 

TrueMaroonGrind

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Thanks for the backstory. I had no idea that was a thing. People will invest in some of the dumbest things.

You should really join my sales team for essential oils. We make real money. If you recruit 3 people and they recruit 3 people each and then they recruit 3 people who all recruit 3 more, then you’ll make $20 for the month.
 

jethreauxdawg

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Sounds like we’re on your team

We’re not making money yet, but we are saving a ton because of our membership level**
 

JungRebel

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"You're not learning anything about investing."

Hopefully they learned about the stop limit sell.
 

MaroonOil

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Oh hello I’m back again!

To help you all out. Again, I have made mega money on GME(6 digits) & will make a lot in AMC on Monday. As 15 million shares have to be bought back closing at 8.01 like we did. Old people invest & steady & slow she goes. Forget that boomer crap, we want money fast & all you need is the 25k limit VIP pass & you in. I got a great job & it will retire me anyways. The market is here to make money, not a vehicle to reflect the whole entirety of our economy.

Yes, OP is exactly right, GME & AMC are not about investing fundamentals. Those two stocks are the most shorted stocks in the world. The current play on it is to squeeze it, that is it. It’s that simple, it will pay out & that will be that. They cannot not cover in the short term, it isn’t mathematically possible. They overshorted & over leveraged to bankrupt GameStop. In which If this would have happened, all those gains made on that short most likely would not have been taxed depending on the GME bankruptcy filing. That won’t be happening anymore, again the people shorting don’t have enough real shares to cover or close in the short term. This could last years if they try to actually cover. Which would have to be done in the Options sector. Yes, this is now a hedge fund war but retail is holding & buying & not doing a lot of selling. Which moves the price but also keeps it stable.

Remember Micheal Burry waited two years for his short to pay out. The GME gamma squeeze that was stopped was going to start the real squeeze until Robinhood stopped the buy orders. The play hasn’t changed, it has already worked once. It isn’t a hard concept.

Me? I’m not selling, forget about it. These hedge funds & people with abhorrent practices of ruining companies don’t get out easy this time. I was down 90%, & now I’m in the money. They are never getting my shares. They HAVE to HAVE them in GME. It is why we are where we are now. If this was actually over, there would be way less volatility, volume & coverage. Don’t kid yourself, this is a situation we will never see again. The holders have a chance to ask what sell price they want for their shares. Problem is, they are going to try not to cover. Serious consequences are at stake for how this ends too. It has the ability to not just crash our market, in which it will do if the squeeze happens. It can forever stain Wall Street if the SEC bails out the shorts. A no faith market in which a lot of pple across the world will pull there money out of Wall Street, me included. If the markets aren’t free & organic enough to let these people lose on their bad short bet then change most happen. Even if it evolves losing it all. WE ARE NOT SELLING UNTIL THE SQUEEZE.

Lastly, again, GME & AMC is a short play. They made a bad bet & are still actively getting countered. That is all these two stocks are. Logic & normal market activity doesn’t apply to it until this saga is over & the stocks are normal.
 
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