How long until CFP is modified? And in what way?

[Coast_Dawg]

I’m sure this is a retread but I haven’t seen it mentioned lately. Does it go to 8 teams with automatic bids or anything like that? Perhaps just going back to BCS formulas and doing away with the committee?

 

[57stratdawg]

I like 4 teams. I don’t really want to hear the debate between why 9-3 Auburn or 10-2 Washington is more deserving for the 8th spot. Much less 9-3 Kansas State or 8-4 Texas AM.

 

[Dawgtruc]

I’m sure this is a retread but I haven’t seen it mentioned lately. Does it go to 8 teams with automatic bids or anything like that? Perhaps just going back to BCS formulas and doing away with the committee?

I want to see 6 teams.

Top 2 get a bye week.

The other 4 teams battle it out to match up with #1 or #2.

 

[SteelCurtain74]

I would like to stay with 4 but if it is inevitable that there will be an increase in teams, I would go with 6. The top two teams would get a first round bye.

 

[patdog]

No changes for at least the next 5 years. Maybe longer. I think eventually they’ll go to 8 teams, with auto bids for the P5 conference champions (or maybe the “best” team from each P5 conference).

 

[The Maroon Pug]

It needs to be modified soon.

Eight Teams using the BCS algorithm. The committee was made for the talking heads to just talk and get viewers.

Or, just set the algorithm to whatever standards/weights everyone agrees on that is what P5 & G5 teams uses.

 

[Russ Wheeler]

It needs to be modified soon.

Eight Teams using the BCS algorithm. The committee was made for the talking heads to just talk and get viewers.

Or, just set the algorithm to whatever standards/weights everyone agrees on that is what P5 & G5 teams uses.

You cannot apply ONLY math statistics to college football. Just not enough cross pollination across uneven schedules and competition. The committee is absolutely necessary so the math nerds don't do something idiotic because it sounds good on paper.

I do agree it needs to go to 6 or 8 teams, though. Then either mandate a G5 playoff or require the G5 to get one spot in the main playoff.

 

[ronpolk]

I like 4 teams. I don’t really want to hear the debate between why 9-3 Auburn or 10-2 Washington is more deserving for the 8th spot. Much less 9-3 Kansas State or 8-4 Texas AM.

Because it gives the opportunity for upsets. That’s why everyone loves March madness so much. College football is going to suffer in popularity if Alabama and Clemson continue to play each other in the title game 90% of the time.

 

[8dog]

If it goes to 8 it will be the 5 champs and the best G5 team. You would only be talking about 2 teams up for debate

 

[QuaoarsKing]

I like 4 teams. I don’t really want to hear the debate between why 9-3 Auburn or 10-2 Washington is more deserving for the 8th spot. Much less 9-3 Kansas State or 8-4 Texas AM.

That might be a debate in a 16-team format, but none of those are going to be in the mix for an 8-team format with 6 autobids.

 

[shotgunDawg]

It'll be expanded to 8 teams soon & that's good because it will give 20+ teams in the country something to play for other than a meaningless bowl game & that could redistribute talent in the long run if more teams are in the race.

That being said, unless they reduce scholarships, you could increase the playoff to 65 teams & it wouldn't change who the best 4-5 teams are every single year.

Here's how bad it is. Last night was the 1st CFB playoff poll & I'd be willing to bet a large sum that in the 1st playoff poll of 2021, at least 3 of the teams will be the exact same.

 

[SteelCurtain74]

Because it gives the opportunity for upsets. That’s why everyone loves March madness so much. College football is going to suffer in popularity if Alabama and Clemson continue to play each other in the title game 90% of the time.

You really think an 8 seed is upsetting a 1 seed? History would not be on your side. Only twice has a 4 seed upset a 1 seed in the semifinals since the inception of the CFP and both involved Alabama in 2015 and 2018. Only 3 of the 12 semifinals played have ended with the losing team losing by 7 points or less. Half of the time the semifinals have ended with the winning team winning by 20 points or more.

The idea that adding more teams in an effort for more competition is misguided based on history. The current setup has not had many competitive games.

If the NCAA is going to add 2 or 4 additional teams then they should simultaneously cut the number of scholarships to make the playing field level.

 

[40 acres and a mule]

Changes to CFP will be meaningless unless there are scholarship and roster limits. I prefer a roster limit of 55 to any CFP changes.

 

[ronpolk]

You really think an 8 seed is upsetting a 1 seed? History would not be on your side. Only twice has a 4 seed upset a 1 seed in the semifinals since the inception of the CFP and both involved Alabama in 2015 and 2018. Only 3 of the 12 semifinals played have ended with the losing team losing by 7 points or less. Half of the time the semifinals have ended with the winning team winning by 20 points or more.

The idea that adding more teams in an effort for more competition is misguided based on history. The current setup has not had many competitive games.

If the NCAA is going to add 2 or 4 additional teams then they should simultaneously cut the number of scholarships to make the playing field level.

I said it gives the opportunity for an upset. I wouldn’t expect it would happen too often but it’ll be fun when it does

 

[WrapItDog]

The Playoff TV contract with ESPN expires in 2025. ESPN pays about $475 million a year. With ESPN bleeding money the CFP has no desire to expand the playoffs and renegotiate the ESPN tv deal.

 

[Seinfeld]

There are currently a combined 3 losses amongst the top 8, and there are another 5 undefeated teams outside of the top 8. I don’t think you’ll be seeing many 8-4 teams knocking on the door of an expanded playoff

 

[RockKickinSandPoundinSOB]

I’m sure this is a retread but I haven’t seen it mentioned lately. Does it go to 8 teams with automatic bids or anything like that? Perhaps just going back to BCS formulas and doing away with the committee?

I want 8 teams. 8 teams is perfect.

 

[o_dawgnabit]

I would love to see a top 8 and the first round get to be hosted by the top 4 on their campus. I think the idea of a playoff game with a home college atmosphere would be insane.

 

[Coast_Dawg]

The Playoff TV contract with ESPN expires in 2025. ESPN pays about $475 million a year. With ESPN bleeding money the CFP has no desire to expand the playoffs and renegotiate the ESPN tv deal.

So it won’t be a real discussion before 2023 at the earliest, possibly 2024?

I’d personally like to see 8 teams. I’d also have some realignment involved. I’d prefer to have the BCS formula back into play to make things more logical but don’t see that happening.

In my CFB utopia, there would be 5-8 13 team conferences with 12 game schedule and no out of conference games with the conference champ making the playoff with 0-3 “at-large” bids using a BCS type formula. No need for a conference championship game either. Each team play every other team in the conference so it would take a 3+ way tie to get hairy.

Play the Quarters before Christmas. The Semis on New Years. Championship 7-13 days later on a Monday night.

 

[57stratdawg]

Because most teams have only played a handful of games in 2020. Last year’s final rankings had:

4 loss Wisconsin
3 loss Baylor
4 Loss Auburn
3 loss Iowa
3 loss Utah
4 loss Michigan

all ranked between #10 and #20.

 

[DAWGS1.sixpack]

I’d like to see a 8 team playoff and it won’t probably happen but what if we reduced the scholarship limit from 85 to 70 but you could sign up to 20 per year if needed?
Really no reason to have 4 plus depth chart members on both O and D

 

[Coast_Dawg]

I’d like to see a 8 team playoff and it won’t probably happen but what if we reduced the scholarship limit from 85 to 70 but you could sign up to 20 per year if needed?
Really no reason to have 4 plus depth chart members on both O and D

I love those numbers. I wish it would happen and shift them to baseball. Personally think the signing class shouldn’t be able to count kids back. I think it should be early signing and February signing all equals one class. No signing a kid in December and counting them against your class from last February.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Because most teams have only played a handful of games in 2020. Last year’s final rankings had:

4 loss Wisconsin
3 loss Baylor
4 Loss Auburn
3 loss Iowa
3 loss Utah
4 loss Michigan

all ranked between #10 and #20.

And none in the top 8, so...

 

[patdog]

Yep. If we had that format last year, we'd have 12-1 Memphis at 13-0 LSU, 11-2 Baylor at 13-0 Ohio St., 11-2 Oregon at 13-0 Clemson, and 11-2 Georgia at 12-1 Oklahoma in the 1st round. Baylor and Georgia would be the at-large teams. Top teams left out would be 10-3 Wisconsin and 10-2 Florida. That would be an awesome playoff and not much room for too much argument.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

If the CFP had been 8 teams from the beginning, with autobids for each conference and one saved for the G5, only one team with three losses would have ever made it - 2018 Washington, as they were the best of a really bad Pac-12. And only 1 other 3-loss team would have even gotten the slightest consideration, 2017 Auburn, who had losses to the #1 and #3 teams and still would not have been selected.

An 8-team playoff has no concerns about a 3-loss at large teams being in any serious discussion for a bid, and it would be pretty rare for them to get in at all, especially if conferences get rid of divisions that allow teams that aren't one of the best 2 in the conference to sneak in and steal a bid.

 

[PineGroveBully]

This is a piss poor year to advocate for it but in the past, 6 is the number I have argued for. Representatives from each of the P5’s and then the best of the group of 5 teams or best “wildcard,” which would be the 2nd best SEC team most years. Seeds 3 and 4 host 5 and 6 in on-campus games around Christmas and then they match up in rotating NYD bowls with the Natty the next week. The losers of the on-campus games could meet in a bowl and then the other bowls fill in as they normally would. Wouldn’t drastically change things from how they are and yet still give another 10-15 teams a shot that normally wouldn’t BC of Bama and Ohio State. Had we beaten OM in 2014 this is likely the only chance we woulda had at getting in.