OT: First Hand COVID Experience & Masks

[BlueRidgeMtns]

I'll keep it short, just wanted to share information and let you all draw your own conclusions. For reference, I'm an administrator of a continuing care retirement community (Independent, Assisted, and Healthcare) in southwest VA.

- We had a physical therapist test positive, which triggered us to test 100% of our residents and team.
- 11 residents' results came back positive, 3 additional team members positive (1 Activity person, 2 Beauty Shop employees)
- The therapist, who wears a surgical mask appropriately, sees quite a few residents for therapy and they also wear masks in therapy sessions.. none of those residents tested positive.
- All 11 of the residents who were positive had been in the beauty shop the week prior. Both beauty shop employees (work 2 days per week) were disciplined for not wearing their surgical masks appropriately on the last day they worked before being tested.
- The activity person who was positive is who coordinates with the beauty shop employees, which is why she was exposed.

Yes, there are other factors at play, but the results seem to point towards the benefits of wearing a mask.


Not trying to start the 500th COVID thread, just felt like it was worth passing along.

 

[TrueMaroonGrind]

Thanks for sharing

 

[thatsbaseball]

I will never understand how wearing a mask for a few months until we can get beyond this pandemic could be construed as a threat to someone's freedom or liberties.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

I don’t get it either. I’ve found me some good comfortable masks at Walgreens and can wear it all day.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I will never understand how wearing a mask for a few months until we can get beyond this pandemic could be construed as a threat to someone's freedom or liberties.

Everyone knows that the next rule coming is that guns aren't safe to operate when masked, so turn them in. Anyone left holding a gun is in violation of both rules and will be banned from both baseball, and apple pie, until further notice. The good news is that we will surely see violence abate in Jackson.***

 

[dawgstudent]

What are the ones at Walgreens?

 

[TrueMaroonGrind]

I will never understand how wearing a mask for a few months until we can get beyond this pandemic could be construed as a threat to someone's freedom or liberties.

Most people I know say it is being submissive and submitting to any authority is weakness.

Echo chambers on social media are mostly to blame. There is power in a group of people agreeing no matter the facts.

 

[FQDawg]

I don’t get it either. I’ve found me some good comfortable masks at Walgreens and can wear it all day.

I've become the person who ends up wearing one while driving alone in the car... because I forget it's even there. I just can't comprehend how mentally fragile you have to be to complain about wearing one.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

I will never understand how wearing a mask for a few months until we can get beyond this pandemic could be construed as a threat to someone's freedom or liberties.

Not giving my opinion, but it has been and will be more than just a few months. It’s gonna be a while before those mandates are lifted.

 

[Russ Wheeler]

I've become the person who ends up wearing one while driving alone in the car... because I forget it's even there. I just can't comprehend how mentally fragile you have to be to complain about wearing one.

This is understandable for people who have to wear them to work, so over 6 months I can see this happening. But saying masks don't suck is a flat out lie.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

So are California and Europe outliers? California has had a statewide masks mandate since June and their graph looks almost identical to Mississippi.... Europe may be worse now than they were in the Spring and they have have had some extreme Covid Precautions in place. My brother and brother in law both work at the same place that requires mask/social distancing/disinfecting and they caught it within a day of each other. The virus will run its course and you have to protect the vulnerable.

 

[hatfieldms]

I don’t either. It is strange the battles people choose to pick

 

[johnson86-1]

I will never understand how wearing a mask for a few months until we can get beyond this pandemic could be construed as a threat to someone's freedom or liberties.

It's not really about freedom. It's about status. Our "elites" like to impose rules they don't follow. Your grandad gets to die alone with no funeral. THe politically connected have massive funerals. You stay home while "elites" gather in large numbers in the street. Same as the lectures about climate change before getting on a private plane, or if they are a poor "elite", then their 30th commercial flight of the year.

Even though the masks aren't on the same level, they get lumped in, with support from things like news media lecturing about masks and then immediately taking them off and keeping them off when the camera is off.

IT's a negative consequence of having a political class and "elites" that is largely more concerned about signaling that they are part of the favored class than almost anything else. Everything starts to be seen in those terms by people who are tired of being openly considered and treated as second class citizens.

 

[BlueRidgeMtns]

We also require masks/social distancing/disinfecting ... but that doesn't mean everyone is 100% compliant all day long in every scenario.

Even with 100% compliance, it can spread. However, ignoring those recommendations would lead to much worse spread.

 

[SheltonChoked]

It's not really about freedom. It's about status. Our "elites" like to impose rules they don't follow. Your grandad gets to die alone with no funeral. THe politically connected have massive funerals. You stay home while "elites" gather in large numbers in the street. Same as the lectures about climate change before getting on a private plane, or if they are a poor "elite", then their 30th commercial flight of the year.

Even though the masks aren't on the same level, they get lumped in, with support from things like news media lecturing about masks and then immediately taking them off and keeping them off when the camera is off.

IT's a negative consequence of having a political class and "elites" that is largely more concerned about signaling that they are part of the favored class than almost anything else. Everything starts to be seen in those terms by people who are tired of being openly considered and treated as second class citizens.

You should really stop reading all that Q anon stuff. It's warped your mind.

Oh and wear a mask.

 

[SheltonChoked]

So are California and Europe outliers? California has had a statewide masks mandate since June and their graph looks almost identical to Mississippi.... Europe may be worse now than they were in the Spring and they have have had some extreme Covid Precautions in place. My brother and brother in law both work at the same place that requires mask/social distancing/disinfecting and they caught it within a day of each other. The virus will run its course and you have to protect the vulnerable.

If masks and social distancing don't work, how do we "protect the vulnerable"? Saran wrap their houses?

https://english.elpais.com/society/...he-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air.html

If they work inside, for more than 4 hours and the place doesn't have good ventilation, then that's why the masks and social distancing didn't work.

It's like scuba diving. The air tanks work, but you cannot stay at on the bottom for 3 days with a single tank.

 

[Ralph Cramden]

I have no doubt the mask is effective in catching phlegm and expectorant but if you think the weave of the mask is tight enough to stop the actual virus microbes you are retarded. I do wear one where required of course but the virus is gonna run its course regardless of what we do. We think we can control it but we can not. If we all lock ourselves in the house when we come back out....boom...there is that virus....still here

 

[Russ Wheeler]

You should really stop reading all that Q anon stuff. It's warped your mind.

Oh and wear a mask.

He's not talking about liberal or conservative. You don't have to SJW so hard.

 

[ronpolk]

We also require masks/social distancing/disinfecting ... but that doesn't mean everyone is 100% compliant all day long in every scenario.

Even with 100% compliance, it can spread. However, ignoring those recommendations would lead to much worse spread.

The anti mask crowd is never going to understand that. There are no shades of gray with them. Either wearing a mask stops 100% of transmission, or it’s a mask is useless. They are never going to understand that nobody claimed wearing a mask completely stopped the spread. It’s just designed to help slow the spread.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Not sure how his statement is Qanon, but other than being kooks, I know little about them. However, it is for certain the wealthy that wield power in the US, on both fronts. Must be wealthy, or have wealthy benefactors, and must be part of one of the two major political parties. Otherwise, you don't get to play the game. And the rules aren't changing because the two parties are way more worried about staying in power than they are about each other. It's big political game.

 

[Ralph Cramden]

But you have to follow the "science" but in the entire history of mankind the "science" still can't do anything about the common cold. Or for that matter anything effective for the flu. Between 40 and 80,000 people die from the flu every year. Except this one of course. Because its a virus.

 

[Russ Wheeler]

If masks and social distancing don't work, how do we "protect the vulnerable"? Saran wrap their houses?

https://english.elpais.com/society/...he-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air.html

If they work inside, for more than 4 hours and the place doesn't have good ventilation, then that's why the masks and social distancing didn't work.

It's like scuba diving. The air tanks work, but you cannot stay at on the bottom for 3 days with a single tank.

I'll say it - life is going to be harder for the vulnerable. That's reality. It may or may not be their own fault that they are vulnerable, but I know with 100% certainty that it's no one else's fault. You are responsible for yourself.

I know, wow just wow, right?

 

[maroonmadman]

Most people I know say it is being submissive and submitting to any authority is weakness.

Echo chambers on social media are mostly to blame. There is power in a group of people agreeing no matter the facts.

I wonder how they feel about all those people who submitted to authority and volunteered to go fight in WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, etc. Wearing a mask isn't even close to the sacrifices they made and yet folks see that as being submissive? I wear one for 8 hrs a day at work and have been since June. No biggie, just doing my part.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

Just so I'm clear on this, my M over S bandana is sufficient, or worse than not wearing one? I ordered it from Maroon & Co. The fabric is that of an cool-fit polo or tee.

No sarcasterisks needed. The debate seemed to go back and forth the last time I asked.

 

[Russ Wheeler]

The anti mask crowd is never going to understand that. There are no shades of gray with them. Either wearing a mask stops 100% of transmission, or it’s a mask is useless. They are never going to understand that nobody claimed wearing a mask completely stopped the spread. It’s just designed to help slow the spread.

Everybody on this board knows this......who exactly are you preaching at?

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

I’ll take a pic when I get back to my truck.

 

[bulldogcountry1]

My home town has been pretty consistent wearing masks, in my experience. So much so, that I had gotten used to seeing everyone in and around buildings wearing masks. We went to Starkville last weekend, and I was surprised to see that wasn’t the case. Seeing relatives and friends from other towns, it sounds like people are getting pretty lax with wearing them.

 

[SheltonChoked]

I'll say it - life is going to be harder for the vulnerable. That's reality. It may or may not be their own fault that they are vulnerable, but I know with 100% certainty that it's no one else's fault. You are responsible for yourself.

I know, wow just wow, right?

Explain how, if i'm vulnerable, I can stay responsible for myself, if some ******* refuses to wear a mask.

And how "it's not that *******'s fault" if he is spreading covid while maskless.

You seem to think that your actions don't affect other people. When all evidence is what you do does affect others. But you seem to not give a **** about that.

I know, wow just wow, right?

 

[SheltonChoked]

Everybody on this board knows this......who exactly are you preaching at?

you. Because you consistently have said "it's a personal responsibility" on whether to wear a mask or not. Showing your level of care for others.

That's fine. You do you.

 

[SheltonChoked]

I have no doubt the mask is effective in catching phlegm and expectorant but if you think the weave of the mask is tight enough to stop the actual virus microbes you are retarded. I do wear one where required of course but the virus is gonna run its course regardless of what we do. We think we can control it but we can not. If we all lock ourselves in the house when we come back out....boom...there is that virus....still here

You are an idiot.

 

[SheltonChoked]

Just so I'm clear on this, my M over S bandana is sufficient, or worse than not wearing one? I ordered it from Maroon & Co. The fabric is that of an cool-fit polo or tee.

No sarcasterisks needed. The debate seemed to go back and forth the last time I asked.

Better than nothing.

But the test is try to blow out a candle wearing the mask. If you can, it's not working, and you need a better mask.

 

[SheltonChoked]

But you have to follow the "science" but in the entire history of mankind the "science" still can't do anything about the common cold. Or for that matter anything effective for the flu. Between 40 and 80,000 people die from the flu every year. Except this one of course. Because its a virus.

you are an idiot.

What causes the "common cold"? Flu?

 

[thatsbaseball]

Amen

 

[johnson86-1]

I've become the person who ends up wearing one while driving alone in the car... because I forget it's even there. I just can't comprehend how mentally fragile you have to be to complain about wearing one.

I do the same thing, but I am rarely doing anything physical. When I have had to do anything physical, though, the mask sucks. I don't know if I'd get used to it or not if I was consistently doing things physical; hard for me to believe I would but I guess you can get used to a lot of stuff.

 

[dawglawz]

I bet those certified badasses don't wear their seatbelts, huff gas, and 17 their sisters, too. You know, can't let the gubment tell em what to do and what not.

 

[mstateglfr]

These threads are filled with the same 4 or 5 people emotionally thrashing and kicking each and every time.
drebin/lee/boss/cramden/wheeler/whatever name GOAT is currently using.

Not sure if that is recognized by everyone. Its a small handful out of everyone who actively posts.

I encourage skepticism and questioning of things, but even I cant stop rolling my eyes at this point.

 

[Dog316]

I have no doubt the mask is effective in catching phlegm and expectorant but if you think the weave of the mask is tight enough to stop the actual virus microbes you are retarded. I do wear one where required of course but the virus is gonna run its course regardless of what we do. We think we can control it but we can not. If we all lock ourselves in the house when we come back out....boom...there is that virus....still here

1. Wearing a mask may not keep you from getting the virus, but it may actually protect others from you should you become positive.
2. Wearing a mask may actually help you keep from becoming infected, so if it it is only10% effective in keeping you safe it seems logical to wear one. I haven’t heard of a single fatality caused by wearing one.

The mask may be compared to a bullet proof vest. The vest only protects your chest, but everyone who has been in close combat like situations knows it is better that nothing.

3. Finally, if you don’t care about your own health, just do the considerate thing and help protect your family members and others around you.

Peace!

 

[ronpolk]

Everybody on this board knows this......who exactly are you preaching at?

Go back and read lee’s post. Tell me he does think exactly like what I posted. He used an example of his brother and sister in-law getting covid despite working in a place that requires a mask. I can about guarantee that lee thinks positive cases = masks don’t work. Never mind that no one said mask are going to prevent you from from getting covid. It’s going to prevent covid from being spread by you.

 

[tommyboy1520]

They are never going to understand that nobody claimed wearing a mask completely stopped the spread. It’s just designed to help slow the spread.

To be fair, while no one in an official capacity claimed it, I know way too many people who believe just that: If everybody would wear a mask, we'd stop this thing in a couple of months and get back to normal. I know very few people who actually understand that (1) the virus isn't going anywhere, and (2) we can do our part to slow it's spread.

 

[KingBarkus]

Originally Posted by Ralph Cramden

I have no doubt the mask is effective in catching phlegm and expectorant but if you think the weave of the mask is tight enough to stop the actual virus microbes you are retarded. I do wear one where required of course but the virus is gonna run its course regardless of what we do. We think we can control it but we can not. If we all lock ourselves in the house when we come back out....boom...there is that virus....still here

You are an idiot.

What makes him an idiot? There is not one word the poster (Ralph Cramden) said that is not true. We have seen this over the course of 2020. We know more about this virus than we did in March. We have seen lockdowns do not work. I don't know the poster's history, but he is accurate in that post. Some say it is a highly contagious virus, yet only 36% of people inside the home with a family member that is Covid positive contract the virus. I can safely assume most of those folks are not wearing masks inside the home. Man, I hate to wade into these discussions when emotions run amuck and people are on edge.