UK walks out of practice in protest

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RocketDawg

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The boycott is just a drop of water in the whole Pacific Ocean as far as things that will effect / screw up this 2020 Football season. Look at everything already on the "All You Can Eat Buffett of Choas":

- Pandemic limited practice time + trying to learn a new Offensive system and Defensive system.
- All SEC opponent schedule / no Non-Conference confidence building opponents.
- 25% filled stadiums / no home field advantages.
- Appathy and a "Let's just go Hunting" mindset of the fanbase.

We've had that during normal years, especially on dove season opening day, etc.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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You left off the part where he is a rapist. People are defending a rapist who fought two police officers because of the color of his skin.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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So, let me get this straight. A cop, two cops, go to arrest a man who is non compliant, has a long record, a rapist, and has an active arrest warrant. The man resists, is unfazed by a taser, fights the cops, and goes into his vehicle to get something, so the cop shoots him, but doesn’t kill him. And people are taking his side?
 

SheltonChoked

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MSU follows suit.

Where are all the " I''ll never watch ___ again" Crowd?

 

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A lot of people have found out over the last few months that life goes on without sports. If politics is continued to be injected into sports a lot of those same people will continue to do without it. I don't watch and follow sports to hear about politics, no matter how justified it is. Sports is an escape. When it is no longer that I, and many like me, will find another escape.


There has always been politics in sports. It's just normally been the owners politics and not the players.

But I'm glad MSU in 1963 put Politics in sports.

And I'm glad UK played Northington in 1967.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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I disagree. Arrest him for what he did the other day and for his warrants. Law is the law. That’s part of the 17ing problems. There seems to be no rules or laws for certain people.
 

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So, let me get this straight. A cop, two cops, go to arrest a man who is non compliant, has a long record, a rapist, and has an active arrest warrant. The man resists, is unfazed by a taser, fights the cops, and goes into his vehicle to get something, so the cop shoots him, but doesn’t kill him. And people are taking his side?

You forgot that he had a restraining order and the police was called by the woman who the court was protecting from HIM.
 

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There has always been politics in sports. It's just normally been the owners politics and not the players.

But I'm glad MSU in 1963 put Politics in sports.

And I'm glad UK played Northington in 1967.

Any honest person will admit that what's happening now is different, but nice try.
Now it's a mob mentality to get in line. Before it was a few important events when most of the games were simply trying to win a game.
 

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Only shoot to wound after he shoots the first cop in the chest. That’s why they wear the bullet proof vests.
 

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There has always been politics in sports. It's just normally been the owners politics and not the players.

But I'm glad MSU in 1963 put Politics in sports.

And I'm glad UK played Northington in 1967.
Actually in 1963 MSU took sports OUT of politics. They ignored the politics of the day they operated under. What they did is exactly what I'm preaching.
 

L4Dawg

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They shot him 7 times in the back. Hard to justify that.

When a guy who has been resisting arrest, has a warrant for raping a CHILD, has a weapon, is in direct violation of an order not to be where he is, reaches into a vehicle where you can't see what he is reaching for, you do NOT shoot to disable. You shoot to put him DOWN. Anyone fighting THIS particular battle in defense of THAT, is a stupid, ignorant, fool. You are also basically dooming the cause you are fighting for, which almost all of us are in sympathy with. You are giving irrefutable ammo to the racists among us. This is the wrong battle, if you are actually fighting the battle you profess to be fighting.
 

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Ok, so if you, as a player, are going to boycott a precious practice while trying to learn a new offense, your dumb *** better be making a real and tangible impact on society as a whole. Go talk some sense to those in Portland or Wisconsin and help rebuild communities or formulate a real and realistic alternative to deadly force of the non compliant that get pulled over by police. Don’t virtue signal and head back to the dorm or apt to smoke. Do something meaningful or else your statement means nothing. I urge you to get your *** back to practice OR make a meaningful difference. Your choice.
 

Ibdancin

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They shot him 7 times in the back. Hard to justify that.


No it's not.

The police were on the scene due to the lady calling them. That lady was under the protection of the US Court... FROM HIM!

HE sexually assaulted and was there with a knife.

It's not the job of the cop to place himself on a death bed to ease your issues with protecting a woman from him.

Bottom line, the cop is not obligated to wait until he is bleeding out to act. He is not obligated to shoot once and wait and see if he gets shot in return. His job is to end the threat and make it home at night
 

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I’d argue that in 1963 MSU ignored the popular politics of the day and did the right thing. They broke the law, and defied a court order (Disobeyed a peace officer).

The Game of Change was a massive POLITICAL statement that white people can play sports with black people. Better said, Game of Change was an early example to Mississippi that Black people are people. Contrasted to the POLITICAL statement Ole Miss Students made in the fall of that year saying James Meredith was not.

I expect MSU to be better than 1962 Ole Miss.

Which is what I think is happening now.
 
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Black people are 3 1/2 times more likely to be arrested for marijuana than whites. Even though, according to a study in San Diego, that a search of white suspects was more successful in finding drugs in targeted searches.

Blacks are less likely than whites to receive reduced charges or plea bargains.

Black men in New York are five times more likely to be hit with technical violations of their parole than white men.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...cism-police-evidence-criminal-justice-system/
 

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So how is it that almost all of these peaceful black men who have had these highly publicized "confrontations" with the law lately have rap sheets(including violent crimes against other black people) as long as your arm but aren't already in jail.
 

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When a guy who has been resisting arrest, has a warrant for raping a CHILD, has a weapon, is in direct violation of an order not to be where he is, reaches into a vehicle where you can't see what he is reaching for, you do NOT shoot to disable. You shoot to put him DOWN. Anyone fighting THIS particular battle in defense of THAT, is a stupid, ignorant, fool. You are also basically dooming the cause you are fighting for, which almost all of us are in sympathy with. You are giving irrefutable ammo to the racists among us. This is the wrong battle, if you are actually fighting the battle you profess to be fighting.


Blake was charged with 3rd degree sexual assault. IF he'd raped a child it would have been 1st degree per Wisconsin law. https://rinj.press/wp-content/uploa...0CF000736_Case_Details-_in_Kenosha_County.pdf

Again, not saying Blake should not have been arrested, but the police should have taken more than 2 minutes to deescalate the situation.

And if you want to "not give irrefutable ammo for the White Supremacists", stop arguing their side.
 

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Or (gulp) use your scholarship to get an education and become a positive influence on your community, the next generation and particularly on your own children.
 

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Blake was charged with 3rd degree sexual assault. IF he'd raped a child it would have been 1st degree per Wisconsin law. https://rinj.press/wp-content/uploa...0CF000736_Case_Details-_in_Kenosha_County.pdf

Again, not saying Blake should not have been arrested, but the police should have taken more than 2 minutes to deescalate the situation.

And if you want to "not give irrefutable ammo for the White Supremacists", stop arguing their side.

You are what is referred to as an enabler.

I personally know a “white” person who was arrested for drugs multiple times and spent multiple months in jail up to 18 months on one occasion and a total of 38 months over a 6 year period. You are quoting stats on marijuana charges and convictions. What other convictions did each of those same “statistics” have on their records, like say, George Floyd?
 

SheltonChoked

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Or (gulp) use your scholarship to get an education and become a positive influence on your community, the next generation and particularly on your own children.

Like being a model of what you want to see in your community? Like standing up to oppression? Like taking a stand for what is right even if it's unpopular. That kind of positive influence?
 

Drebin

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Taking the one thing that’s done more for racial advancement and reconciliation in this country than any other and proceeding to light that bridge on fire. Bold move

Shitting where they eat. That's a bold strategy.
 

Drebin

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Not trying to be an *** or insensitive, but what exactly do they expect the university to do about someone getting shot in Wisconsin? Typically when people boycott something, it is because they are upset at that person/business/thing. What would they be upset at the school about?

Just genuinely curious. Also, now would be a good time to keep a microphone away from Mike Leach.

Virtue signaling that they're "woke". That's what they get out of all of it. They get to go back to their dorms and check all the likes and retweets they are getting for being so morally woke. It's faux outrage. If they really want their boycott to mean something, they would walk out of practice until our government puts more law enforcement on the streets to stop the senseless killing of black people in the inner cities. When you put the life of one criminal who was practically asking to be shot over the lives of hundreds and thousands of innocent people, your protests are meaningless, and the country is starting to see this.
 

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My question is other than being able to say you did it, what does this really accomplish? It’s not a game and no one watches practice? I’m just asking...

Many folks who are the loudest about <name a cause> don't actually DO anything to help it. They just like to talk about it a lot. You want to know what you care about check your calendar and your checkbook. You time and money will tell you what you care about, regardless of the words that come out of your mouth or the philosophy you claim to support.
 

Drebin

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Black people are 3 1/2 times more likely to be arrested for marijuana than whites. Even though, according to a study in San Diego, that a search of white suspects was more successful in finding drugs in targeted searches.

Blacks are less likely than whites to receive reduced charges or plea bargains.

Black men in New York are five times more likely to be hit with technical violations of their parole than white men.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...cism-police-evidence-criminal-justice-system/

Some of these stats have merit, and some of them are ********.

It's true that for a long time, blacks were being disproportionately sentenced for minor offenses. That has been recognized and is changing. And you can thank the 1994 Crime Bill, written by none other than Joe Biden and signed into law by none other than Bill Clinton for the cause of it. Trump has been taking steps to reverse this through criminal justice reform. If you are as passionate about this as you seem to be , you should vote Trump.
 

horshack.sixpack

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Also, it's OK for multiple things to be true:

1) He should have been incarcerated and not on the streets.
2) He could have complied with officers and not put himself at risk (that's my bold strategy for staying on the right side of the guys with guns, sticks and badges)
3) The officer(s) could have not shot an unarmed man in the back.

I think that more than racism, in most of these cases, the officers fight or flight natural response kicks in. I suspect more training could help them learn how to be measured and under control in chaotic situations, but I'm no expert.
 

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If our team or any other team wanted to “change how things are”, they could do it in a much better way.

It would produce better results and alienate a lot less people.
 

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You are what is referred to as an enabler.

I personally know a “white” person who was arrested for drugs multiple times and spent multiple months in jail up to 18 months on one occasion and a total of 38 months over a 6 year period. You are quoting stats on marijuana charges and convictions. What other convictions did each of those same “statistics” have on their records, like say, George Floyd?

I posted facts. With the link t back it up. If I'm wrong, post your source.

And I have not posted on this thread about marijuana laws. But I will say the only reason Marijuana is illegal is to jail Mexicans, Blacks and Hippies, Per the people that wrote the laws.

This whole movement is an extension of the belief that black and brown people are equal to White people. Period.

Fighting against the current movement is fighting for White Supremacy. If that's what you want to do, fine. But be aware that's who you are fighting for.
 

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If our team or any other team wanted to “change how things are”, they could do it in a much better way.

It would produce better results and alienate a lot less people.

Why should they care if they "Alienate people" ?

They are fighting for equality. The opposite of that is white supremacy. I don't think Black people give a **** about "Alienating" White Supremacists
 

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Are you advocating that these kids jeopardize their one shot at a better life to protest some thug being shot for resisting arrest 1000 miles away ?
 

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I posted facts. With the link t back it up. If I'm wrong, post your source.

And I have not posted on this thread about marijuana laws. But I will say the only reason Marijuana is illegal is to jail Mexicans, Blacks and Hippies, Per the people that wrote the laws.

This whole movement is an extension of the belief that black and brown people are equal to White people. Period.

Fighting against the current movement is fighting for White Supremacy. If that's what you want to do, fine. But be aware that's who you are fighting for.

No, the movement is targeting the wrong people. It’s not white people, or white supremacist that are the problem.

The movement should target the elite wealthy families, politicians and businesses. Poverty is the problem. Low paying jobs (not McDonald’s) is the problem.

But the media redirects the masses attention to police and conservatives. Y’all are being played, and have no clue it’s happening.
 

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No, the movement is targeting the wrong people. It’s not white people, or white supremacist that are the problem.

The movement should target the elite wealthy families, politicians and businesses. Poverty is the problem. Low paying jobs (not McDonald’s) is the problem.

But the media redirects the masses attention to police and conservatives. Y’all are being played, and have no clue it’s happening.
This is correct. I would listen more if I wasn't being constantly told I'm the problem, simply for having white skin.
 
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