Friday afternoon the SEC released everyones two new opponents. Saturday football was probably doomed. Today it's all over but the announcements. What gives? If there is some new data or something then ok. But if the shift in the SECs mindset shifted that rapidly just because the big 10 is gonna cancel then thats chickenshit.
What has changed since Friday afternoon at 5?
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I don't think there was ever any real thought that we would play. I think it was all about holding off the outcry for as long as possible. Most people I have been listening have been saying quietly that it wouldn't happen for months.
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Trevor doesn’t understand the rationale for cancelling. It has nothing to do with “being safer.” It’s all about shifting liability elsewhere.
Then the powers that be should stop BSing about player safety and come out and just say it’s about liability.
Well that but the player demands for 50% of revenue isn't helping. Canceling the season has the added benefit of possibly smothering that in its crib. Or at least blunting it.
College athletics is rapidly flying right into the eye of a black hole. I have no idea what everything is going to look like when we all come out the other end.
I guess the only schools sports will be the 17ing debate team.
It’s all so surreal.
Anyone who thinks cancelling this season keeps these players or their families safer from the virus, either 1) is grossly misinformed or 2) has an ulterior motive.
ETA: Also, anyone thinking we will for sure have a vaccine in mass production by fall of 2021 is delusional. It may happen, but that is far from a certainty.
These dipshits saying everything must be shut down until we get a vaccine can live in their bubbles for the next 3-5 years. The rest of us want to actually enjoy life.
ETA: Also, anyone thinking we will for sure have a vaccine in mass production by fall of 2021 is delusional. It may happen, but that is far from a certainty.
These dipshits saying everything must be shut down until we get a vaccine can live in their bubbles for the next 3-5 years. The rest of us want to actually enjoy life.
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If everyone in the US wore a mask since March, there would still be no NCAA football. It’s all a political power grab and a lack of leadership by university presidents....the virus will run its course mask or not..... at the earliest we are looking at a vaccine that may not even work is end summer 2021.... but the virus will for the most part burn out by then.
Let me be clear- I am good with wearing a mask and socially distancing. I have been doing both since March and am behind those measures 100%. Although I also thing the virus is going to run it’s course one way or another...
However, anyone trying to make CFB getting cancelled a mask issue is dead wrong. It is all about liability, as well as some politics in certain Big 10 and Pac 12 states. The whole Pac 12 players demands ordeal also hurt a lot more than people are talking about... That scared the **** out of these presidents and administrators.
If schools were willing to leave the NCAA to play a championship, they'd damn sure be willing to handle the waivers themselves. Fact is, the liberal college leaders don't want football to happen.
Good lord. Who gives a **** if a bunch of damn yankees cancel their season because they are scardy cats. The transmission rate with football will be the same as the rate without football. College kids will still party, college kids will still hook up, and college kids will still make the beast with two backs. Trying to stop that is like trying to hold back the tide. It doesn't happen. So everybody be prepared for a huge explosion as students go back to campus. It's just going to happen. And almost none of them will have an issue with this.
Leave it to the University’s legal councils to scare the Administrators into a voided season. We need leadership with balls. Damn the consequences, play college sports now!
Better question: how do we stop, or heaven forbid, reverse it?
I really, really hate the entire premise of cancel culture, but if it's going to be used, then I'd prefer to use it on people in positions of power who have, by their own inaction over the course of time and then action, put themselves in the position of making extremely poor decisions that will effect no small number of lives and livelihoods.
I really, really hate the entire premise of cancel culture, but if it's going to be used, then I'd prefer to use it on people in positions of power who have, by their own inaction over the course of time and then action, put themselves in the position of making extremely poor decisions that will effect no small number of lives and livelihoods.
BIG 10 will cancel by Monday afternoon, PAC 12 will follow, and then it will collapse...sorta like what always happens when the West Coast Lefties (PAC 12) and the Yankee North (BIG 10) lead the way.
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Let’s say we play and (God forbid) one of our players contracts COVID at any point in the season and is seriously ill or dies (Very unlikely, but possible). Neither John Cohen, Mark Keenum, nor Greg Sankey want to get up on a podium (or stand) and try to explain why they allowed amateurs to participate in a sport where they risked extra exposure. Plain and simple. I recall stating as far back as April that we will not play Football this year and I stand by that.
Honestly, I would be surprised if we play in 2021 as well. No one is going to want to take on much risk until there is a 99% effective vaccine and that may or may not happen anytime soon.
Honestly, I would be surprised if we play in 2021 as well. No one is going to want to take on much risk until there is a 99% effective vaccine and that may or may not happen anytime soon.
Well, then they better start refunding tuition and fees to students on campus and go full online with classes. Because there's truly no difference.
It comes down solely to the liability issue. If schools can require athletes to waive liability for COVID-19 contraction, the SEC will 100% play. If they can’t, then they 100% won’t play. And if that continues to hold, we are unlikely to play for years barring a miracle vaccine. No school is going to assume the liability for a deadly virus outbreak that impacts athletes or their families. Nor should they be willing to assume that liability.
I’m fully behind the theory that it’s the liability issue. You have one bad incident and they are suing the school and the conference and it’s not like there is a 0.001% chance of that happening. It’s not high but it’s high enough to scare the people that have to make the decisions .
How is the NFL handling the liability exposure?
How is the NFL handling the liability exposure?
We could. We're playing an all-SEC schedule already as it is. Just have to give up post season play (assuming we were to make it that far).
It’s simple. They aren’t requiring their teams or leagues to assume liability for virus infection. Just like with any other virus out there in the world.
Large paychecks and better insurance.
Take it or leave it for the NFL. Pretty fair trade. With college the optics are wildly different. Kids are compensated with education. There's still the appearance that it's wealthy people making big bucks off teenagers from often bad situations and not paying them much compared to what's brought in. It just looks more exploitative without regard for health in an amateurish world.
Take it or leave it for the NFL. Pretty fair trade. With college the optics are wildly different. Kids are compensated with education. There's still the appearance that it's wealthy people making big bucks off teenagers from often bad situations and not paying them much compared to what's brought in. It just looks more exploitative without regard for health in an amateurish world.
More so than you think.
Domino effect- no football or fall sports, few students on campus leads to bars and restaurants closing at least temporarily if they are solvent, and permanently if not. Now you have zero for students to do on campus or in the community. Guess what. They can stay at home, hang out with their friends, take Juco classes on line for free if they have a 24 or higher on the ACT, get all of their Freshmen/Sophomore classes and some electives our of the way, and maybe work a part time job and get a local to home apartment with 2 or 3 friends, and get a taste of independence they would have gotten on campus. The financial ramifications of college towns NOT having football could be catastrophic for the community and possibly the school.
And you know what the answer will be by the Government? Print more money in the trillions that has nothing to back it. Useless paper that will eventually require ALL of us to pay 70% tax rates, not just the wealthy they want to tax at 70%.
Massive transfer of wealth! The % of high school graduates going to college should never have been more than 10 to 15% max. Closer to 8% is more appropriate.
So all the college leaders are liberal?
Or all the influential college leaders are liberal and the conservative college leaders are just blindly following along?
Or is it a 3rd option I haven't guessed?
Then change the optics game - need more athletes going on media stating they want to play. This is where the attempt at players unions hurt. I wonder what % of players would honestly rather cancel the season than play with existing protocols.
I have no idea of what’s out there is the best it could be but groups of players decrying the system doesn’t help get games played right now and give the legal side more ammo because now you can appeal to the sentiment that players showed they didn’t want to play, but you “forced” them to play
And look I don’t proclaim to know what the best solution is but I’m worried this is another situation where a very vocal minority get to implement an otherwise unpopular change
I have no idea of what’s out there is the best it could be but groups of players decrying the system doesn’t help get games played right now and give the legal side more ammo because now you can appeal to the sentiment that players showed they didn’t want to play, but you “forced” them to play
And look I don’t proclaim to know what the best solution is but I’m worried this is another situation where a very vocal minority get to implement an otherwise unpopular change
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