Latest Covid number crunching for MS

[L4Dawg]

It is different from the flu as there seems, for at least some people, to be a circulatory component of it as it has caused blood clots in people and that is what has killed them.

I'm far from a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist, but there is a lot about corona that is absolutely baffling to me. Has there been any other disease in human history that can be fatal in some people in just a matter of days while for others be completely asymptomatic? Has there been another that can have such a large range of symptoms that anything you wake up with could be a symptom of it? Or one that can kill in so many ways? A disease this unique I have a hard time thinking just popped up on its own. It is completely against nature. I am going to have to be convinced this wasn't a manmade biological weapon. Now whether the Chinese accidentally let it escape the lab or intentionally did it I have no idea.

That's one thing and it is the big one. That kind of thing can cause lasting damage well belong the lungs. The lung damage also seems to last a LOT longer than any you see with the flu. It is NOT the flu, not even for young people.

 

[L4Dawg]

The virus is 100% political, unless you get it and wind up in an emergency room unable to breath. Then it is 100% medical. Neither, science, nor truth, nor common sense play any role in the opinions of those trying to make a political points with the virus.

VERY good post.

 

[SheltonChoked]

No I don't. Don't lie to have an argument. It can and DOES cause severe illness in younger people even if it doesn't kill them. Think a month or so off work and a week are two in the hospital is a vactation? . They also are the primary spreaders. When thy get it it get's passed into nursing homes and stay at home elderly and sick. Controlling the spread among the young is THE key to controlling it.

To add to this, we have no idea how bad the long term effects of this are. There is some evidence this attacks the blood vessels. There are all kinds of bad things that come from that outside of the known lung damage...

 

[Cooterpoot]

To add to this, we have no idea how bad the long term effects of this are. There is some evidence this attacks the blood vessels. There are all kinds of bad things that come from that outside of the known lung damage...

It's vascular and harms very few young people. I've been down this road. I had a similar virus over 20 years ago. It left my lungs scarred and lingered for a couple years.
Still have issues from it.
But there's yet to be proof of long lasting issues in the typical patient. Sure, some will have more issues. But it's not proven to what extent or even showing that it's common to this point.

 

[RocketDawg]

2,283 in the past 24 hours ending at 10 a.m. Thursday in Alabama. Sounds like a record number. Statewide masking requirement is just under two weeks, so the next week or so will determine if it's been effective.

 

[L4Dawg]

It's vascular and harms very few young people. I've been down this road. I had a similar virus over 20 years ago. It left my lungs scarred and lingered for a couple years.
Still have issues from it.
But there's yet to be proof of long lasting issues in the typical patient. Sure, some will have more issues. But it's not proven to what extent or even showing that it's common to this point.

Ok, here is a healthy under 40 who may have numb hands and feet, forever. We just don't know yet,.....but it's only the flu. Even if she fully recovers, it's still a month and counting in isolation. She hasn't even been in the hospital.

https://www.djournal.com/itawamba/t...cle_c091a184-0fbe-5428-af8e-e260cc6db9bf.html

This is in about as backwoods a rural place as there is in Mississippi.

 

[L4Dawg]

2,283 in the past 24 hours ending at 10 a.m. Thursday in Alabama. Sounds like a record number. Statewide masking requirement is just under two weeks, so the next week or so will determine if it's been effective.

More like the next mont actually. That seems to be the real lag in what has been done.

 

[SirBarksalot]

2,283 in the past 24 hours ending at 10 a.m. Thursday in Alabama. Sounds like a record number. Statewide masking requirement is just under two weeks, so the next week or so will determine if it's been effective.

So if next week, AL sees little improvement, I think you have to look at compliance levels when measuring effectiveness.

Anecdotally, I’ve noticed that in the places I frequent in Charlotte, compliance has been pretty good. Grocery store tonight..fairly busy, saw two people not wearing a mask. One of those was a local homeless guy I’ve assumed mentally ill.

was in Winston-Salem on Monday and Tuesday...most people wore masks. On my way back to Charlotte, stopped at a large, very busy convenience store in the Lexington area, a more rural area..and I was literally the only person wearing a mask in the store.

 

[Dawgbite]

2,283 in the past 24 hours ending at 10 a.m. Thursday in Alabama. Sounds like a record number. Statewide masking requirement is just under two weeks, so the next week or so will determine if it's been effective.

I was in Alabama today and visited several retail locations. Wore my mask in every place. Out of the 20 plus people I encountered in these places, maybe three besides me were wearing masks.

 

[Bucky Dog]

One thing we have to think about with hospitals and deaths are the actual number of people that are hospitalized BECAUSE of COVID and those the actually die BECAUSE of COVID. I believe the latest stats I heard that 40% at more in hospitals WITH Covid are there because of other reasons, ie. surgery, accident, other illness. Same thing for ICU and the narrative cannot make it seem like the ICU is 100% COVID patients when in fact it may be 30% COVID.

 

[SheltonChoked]

It's vascular and harms very few young people. I've been down this road. I had a similar virus over 20 years ago. It left my lungs scarred and lingered for a couple years.
Still have issues from it.
But there's yet to be proof of long lasting issues in the typical patient. Sure, some will have more issues. But it's not proven to what extent or even showing that it's common to this point.

How can there be proof of long lasting issues with a virus that is less than a year old?

 

[SirBarksalot]

One thing we have to think about with hospitals and deaths are the actual number of people that are hospitalized BECAUSE of COVID and those the actually die BECAUSE of COVID. I believe the latest stats I heard that 40% at more in hospitals WITH Covid are there because of other reasons, ie. surgery, accident, other illness. Same thing for ICU and the narrative cannot make it seem like the ICU is 100% COVID patients when in fact it may be 30% COVID.

Are you getting talking points from somewhere? The “with/because” thing is so tired. No one ever said the ICU was 100% Covid.

What was your source for ‘hearing‘ that 40% are WITH?

 

[SheltonChoked]

One thing we have to think about with hospitals and deaths are the actual number of people that are hospitalized BECAUSE of COVID and those the actually die BECAUSE of COVID. I believe the latest stats I heard that 40% at more in hospitals WITH Covid are there because of other reasons, ie. surgery, accident, other illness. Same thing for ICU and the narrative cannot make it seem like the ICU is 100% COVID patients when in fact it may be 30% COVID.

I do not understand this logic.

If the ICU is full, and you have a car wreck, or a heart attack and NEED and ICU bed, does it matter if everyone has COVID or not??

I thought that was the point. That Covid creates long ICU stays and maxes our Medical capacity, not by itself.

Although the Houston Metro is making a damn good try at filling the normal ICU bed with Covid... https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/overview-of-tmc-icu-bed-capacity-and-occupancy/

 

[SirBarksalot]

How can there be proof of long lasting issues with a virus that is less than a year old?

Not sure, but if there is something like scar tissue in lungs , I suppose that it can be assumed it will last.

 

[L4Dawg]

Hey, it's just the flu right?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...-no-normal-symptoms/ar-BB1762ZX?ocid=msedgdhp

There is a case like this in NE MS too.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

That’s like the old Baptist Hospital in Oxford... it’s sitting there empty, but building is in great shape... why couldn’t they use it specifically for Covid Patients?

 

[SirBarksalot]

That’s like the old Baptist Hospital in Oxford... it’s sitting there empty, but building is in great shape... why couldn’t they use it specifically for Covid Patients?

$$$
Equipment and staffing I would guess. Don’t know anything about the place, but might be easier to set up tents if **** really hit the fan.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

$$$
Equipment and staffing I would guess. Don’t know anything about the place, but might be easier to set up tents if **** really hit the fan.

The Feds spent $60 Million on turning the old Commercial Appeal building into a Covid Overflow Hospital... still hasn’t been used yet... the Old Hospital Building in Oxford has been maintained... Looks like with just a little common sense, which I know doesn’t exist in government, it could have been used.

 

[SheltonChoked]

That’s like the old Baptist Hospital in Oxford... it’s sitting there empty, but building is in great shape... why couldn’t they use it specifically for Covid Patients?

Who will work there?

 

[Cooterpoot]

Hey, it's just the flu right?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...-no-normal-symptoms/ar-BB1762ZX?ocid=msedgdhp

There is a case like this in NE MS too.

You realize the flu kills healthy people right? Young, healthy kids especially.

 

[SheltonChoked]

The Feds spent $60 Million on turning the old Commercial Appeal building into a Covid Overflow Hospital... still hasn’t been used yet... the Old Hospital Building in Oxford has been maintained... Looks like with just a little common sense, which I know doesn’t exist in government, it could have been used.

Since the Federal government left all the COVID decisions to "Governors and Mayors", there is no way to coordinate using a building in Tennessee for one in Mississippi.

If we had a Federal response plan, then yeah that makes sense...

 

[RocketDawg]

Best I can tell, compliance is really good locally. But I don't go to many places, so I don't really know.

 

[RocketDawg]

I'll defer to you since you're in the profession. Yesterday,Madison County, AL, had 16 deaths. Today the number is 21. That's a huge percentage, but the number is still fairly small compared to other populous counties.