I just got back from my annual ophthalmologist visit. You call from the parking lot, and they meet you at the door and ask 3 questions (but not temp check), then spray your hands with disinfectant. The waiting room only has two available chairs, and they're cleaned between patients. The chairs that the tech and doc use are cleaned between uses. Everybody has to wear a mask. They are being very careful. You can't even touch the doorhandles - one of the receptionists has to open the doors for you.
Draw your own conclusions....
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Do you mean the same entitlement that believes it's ok to destroy and loot property? The same entitlement that would rather have lawlessness and government funding?
Your B-I-L was given the information first hand, he gave it to you second hand, so now it is actually a third hand account. But anecdotal evidence is still evidence...
The thing I’ve noticed is countries that are hot (Northern Hemisphere), even with higher cases have way less deaths. Southern Hemisphere countries with more cases are trending up in deaths. I remember early on people were preaching the benefits of vitamin D. As some of you know more sun exposure equals more vitamin D could that be the reason for drop in deaths? Could it be how the body reacts to colder weather? Don’t bronchioles contract in cold weather? I am just spitballing here.
Is this right? I would have said the BIL, assuming he actually observed the tests and wasn't just told about it by his employees, gave a first hand account to J-Dawg, who is now giving a 2nd hand account to the board. It will be third hand if people on the board give it to other people.
This is way better than arguing about sports...
My BiL experienced it first hand. As in watched it all take place. So yes, I guess him relaying it to me makes it 2nd hand. And yes, anecdotal, but isn’t most info at this point?
Since the Saharan dust, my wife has been dealing with terrible allergies. Sneezing, water eyes, phlegm, sinus headache, low grade fever. Yesterday she called her nurse practitioner who diagnosed symptoms as sinus infection. Wife went in to fast trac clinic to see NP. NP again diagnosed symptoms as sinus infection and gave her a zpak and antibiotics Rx. While she was there they gave her a Covid test, and surprise surprise she’s positive. She had all her office get tested, they all are negative (same clinic). I have 0 symptoms, but am quarantining with her, thanks to the damn test.
I go in for a steroid shot in my lumbar area every 2-3 months. It's not hospitalization per se, but requires sedation with propothol, procedure room, IV, etc. Last time I went there was no Covid test (just temp check, questions). I'm going again next week and presumably there will once again be no Covid test. It's not been mentioned.
My sister had a major issue with her test when she was exposed. The clinic forgot to send the test to the lab. So she waited 3 days on results (was over a weekend) only to call Monday and find out they were still just sitting there.
She did end up testing negative.
She did end up testing negative.
I don’t worry as much about the absolute number as I pay attention to trends. Validated test kits for RNA viruses like SARS-Cov-2 tend to give more false negative than false positive results. So even with false positives due to a bad test kit, we know we miss positives as well & we know ever positive person isn’t getting tested. So the actual infection numbers are more than reported, which just don’t know exactly how much higher. That’s why you see estimates from the CDC saying the actual infection number maybe 10x higher than test positives.
The issue with kits are specific to some with EUAs. Some, but not all, kits have issues. We need to identify which kits from which companies have issues and get those kits off the market.
I had a minor outpatient operation last week in Tupelo and was not tested during pre-op. Shocked me.
Maybe they aren't rewuiring it where you are. My sister in Orlando could not be admitted for surgery until she tested negative...she actually had to wait for the results. If it had been an emergency, then I suppose they would have conducted the surgery to save her life, but then i dont know what they would do. The hospital does not have to keep you if you wont submit to the test.
We require a negative Covid swab to have a surgery or procedure, but we don't test everyone that is admitted to the hospital. For instance, we wouldn't routinely test every person admitted through the ER for any random reason.
I can't see anyone requiring a Covid swab for an emergency surgery because they are going to do the surgery regardless of what the test results are.
not sure what hospitals you’re talking about, but in my experience, patients scheduled for elective procedures are tested before they step foot in the hospital. If they test positive the procedure is canceled and they are sent home.
Hospitals aren’t admitting people for Covid who aren’t very sick from Covid.
Sorry, but that’s hard to believe. So your facility will intake a patient through the ER without testing them, put them on a floor where they could possibly infect everyone caring for them?
emergency surgery patients are most certainly tested for Covid, at least in my experience. No the test results aren’t always back prior to surgery, and they are treated as if they are possibly positive until the test comes back negative.
Emergency surgery or not, they have to know if someone is positive.
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Anyone that claims masks are infallible isnt aware of reality.
Anyone that claims a mask is equal to a bandaid covering a gun shot wound isnt aware of reality.
Most of your poorest countries with the least available quality healthcare are in the Southern Hemisphere so that probably has a lot to do with their death rate.
But most likely the tests were defective. Weren't a bunch of Chinese ones distributed that didn't work?
Sorta funny - many years ago (50 or so) we were encouraged to get plenty of sunlight. Then we were told we not only got skin cancer from it, but our skin aged prematurely. Now they're saying it's good for preventing Covid, but I suppose it's still bad for skin cancer and grapey skin.
Does sunblock still allow Vitamin D in?
Yes. It's actually better. Vitamin D is synthesized from cholesterol (a good excuse for more bacon*) when sunlight hits your skin cells. Sunblock actually allows you to stay in the sun longer and create more.
So for the analogy I will use a Boston butt as the cholesterol. With sunblock, you smoke it low and slow. Without you are throwing it on a 500° grill.
So Rocket, we expect you to eat lots of bacon, grease up in SPF30 or higher, and put the speedo on and get at least an hour a day of direct sunlight.*
Another thing to draw conclusions and this actually involves public data by the CDC and not some random anecdote.
In 2018 the amount of deaths due to influenza/pneumonia was just under 60,000.
Source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/flu_pneumonia_mortality/flu_pneumonia.htm
Note: Add up the numbers in the "Deaths" column
In 2020 the amount of deaths due to pneumonia alone thus far is over 120,000.
Source: https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Week-Ending-D/r8kw-7aab/data
Note: Add up the numbers in the "Pneumonia Deaths" column for all rows that show the "State" as "United States".
So according to this data provided by the CDC we're on pace for over 4 times as many deaths attributed to pneumonia in 2020 than in 2018. Draw your own conclusions...
In 2018 the amount of deaths due to influenza/pneumonia was just under 60,000.
Source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/flu_pneumonia_mortality/flu_pneumonia.htm
Note: Add up the numbers in the "Deaths" column
In 2020 the amount of deaths due to pneumonia alone thus far is over 120,000.
Source: https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Week-Ending-D/r8kw-7aab/data
Note: Add up the numbers in the "Pneumonia Deaths" column for all rows that show the "State" as "United States".
So according to this data provided by the CDC we're on pace for over 4 times as many deaths attributed to pneumonia in 2020 than in 2018. Draw your own conclusions...
OK, I agree with eating a lot more bacon and using sunblock, but I don't think you'd like to see me in a Speedo. The girls most likely would though.
So, what do you attribute a 300% increase in pneumonia deaths to? Maybe misdiagnosed Covid cases? Misreporting? The "Covid is a fraud" group attributing deaths by natural cause to pneumonia?