Going to go down on the wrong side of things. He might very well go down as a one term guy. All those that voted party line this last time even though they didn't like him may not next time.
Tater still hanging on
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Surprised? Look at the guy. He has coward written all over him. Nothing manly about him what so ever. Looks like he still gets momma to press his pants.
I know a lot of folks who normally vote Republican who quietly voted against him this last time around. I believe he has flipped the switch to causing them to actively campaign against him going forward.
Tate Reeves
You’ve probably seen the conversation raging in Jackson about the state flag. I’m glad that people are expressing their views. That’s exactly how this country is supposed to work. For my part, I’ve only had one real interest since I entered office when it comes to the flag: if it changes it should be by a vote of the people.
I think there’s a good chance that Mississippians’ views might have changed since the last vote in 2001, but the people should get to send that message. My primary goal is the unity of our people, and I really fear any action that would tear us apart.
There’s an effort underway across the country to erase our nation’s history—to pretend that all of us are so much better than our ancestors that we must eliminate their memory. They will tear down statues of Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson…southerners and northerners alike. All because they are ashamed of our country. I believe America is imperfect, but still the greatest country on earth. I get why some Mississippians don’t want to give an inch to the corporate, political, media pressure. That makes the honest efforts to change the flag harder—not easier. I don’t think that if you want to keep the flag you’re automatically a traitor or racist. I also understand that a flag isn’t about the past; it is a banner for the present. Outside of all the corporate posturing and preening, there is honest pain and discomfort felt when some Mississippians look at the symbol on our flag.
I’ve always tried to be honest with each of you, and I’ll be completely transparent with you now. I’m torn on the path forward for our state. I’ve been thinking, praying, and listening. I still don’t have all the answers. I still think a vote of the people that this flag represents is the best way.
Some legislative leaders have changed their position multiple times in recent days. Right now, they are considering suspending the rules to change the flag. It would take a two-thirds vote. That’s how many it takes to override a veto.
Make no mistake, a vote to change the rules is a vote to change the flag. If they get those votes, a veto would be pointless. That debate would be over, and the flag would change.
Like it or hate it—this is everything I’ve been thinking and praying about for the last few weeks. It’s the best way I can articulate my thoughts. God bless, Mississippi.
Instead of pushing leading for change he is still holding on to his will to have it voted on. Knowing how much damage the flag does to this state in so many ways. At this point, not being outward for change is the same as being against even if he is more worried about the group of those who voted him in that were apart of the old ways of thinking. He thinks those people will vote him out. In truth, he will get voted out because he is being a poor leader and on the wrong side of history.
Don't you see the difference in saying he won't veto because it's veto proof majority versus leading for the change?
Don't you see the difference in saying he won't veto because it's veto proof majority versus leading for the change?
What I saw was that he said he would be pointless to veto any legalization. He said this because in order to force a vote on this, there has to be two-thirds vote, which is what is required to override a veto from Tate. He knows he can’t stop it if it’s brought up for a vote. To me that being defeated not agreeing to not stand in the way.
Tate Reeves
You’ve probably seen the conversation raging in Jackson about the state flag. I’m glad that people are expressing their views. That’s exactly how this country is supposed to work. For my part, I’ve only had one real interest since I entered office when it comes to the flag: if it changes it should be by a vote of the people.
I think there’s a good chance that Mississippians’ views might have changed since the last vote in 2001, but the people should get to send that message. My primary goal is the unity of our people, and I really fear any action that would tear us apart.
There’s an effort underway across the country to erase our nation’s history—to pretend that all of us are so much better than our ancestors that we must eliminate their memory. They will tear down statues of Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson…southerners and northerners alike. All because they are ashamed of our country. I believe America is imperfect, but still the greatest country on earth. I get why some Mississippians don’t want to give an inch to the corporate, political, media pressure. That makes the honest efforts to change the flag harder—not easier. I don’t think that if you want to keep the flag you’re automatically a traitor or racist. I also understand that a flag isn’t about the past; it is a banner for the present. Outside of all the corporate posturing and preening, there is honest pain and discomfort felt when some Mississippians look at the symbol on our flag.
I’ve always tried to be honest with each of you, and I’ll be completely transparent with you now. I’m torn on the path forward for our state. I’ve been thinking, praying, and listening. I still don’t have all the answers. I still think a vote of the people that this flag represents is the best way.
Some legislative leaders have changed their position multiple times in recent days. Right now, they are considering suspending the rules to change the flag. It would take a two-thirds vote. That’s how many it takes to override a veto.
Make no mistake, a vote to change the rules is a vote to change the flag. If they get those votes, a veto would be pointless. That debate would be over, and the flag would change.
Like it or hate it—this is everything I’ve been thinking and praying about for the last few weeks. It’s the best way I can articulate my thoughts. God bless, Mississippi.
What a lily livered weakling. The comment of "Outside of all the corporate posturing and preening, there is honest pain and discomfort felt when some Mississippians look at the symbol on our flag." is all the reason he should need to get behind and support the change.
I disagree. Come the next election, the Trump card will be played and Rs will fall right in line.
Won't vote D.... ever. But will actively primary his goofy looking *** for burying us in this mess. There are loads of sensible republicans.
Just curious why you vote party lines and only party lines even if the candidate is worthless and does more harm then good
I voted for a Democrat last time for US Senator in Alabama. It was either that, or vote for "Republican" Roy Moore. This time it looks like Tommy Tubberville, of all people, will be our senator.
You'd think normal people would run for office every once in a while.
Remember who Trump was running against 4 years ago. Had the Democrats put forth a viable candidate, there's no way Trump would have been elected.
This is why I ultimately decided tying my identity to a party was a bad idea.
More and more, I saw ideas openly embraced by the party that I found unacceptable. Then everyone is expected to fall in line behind a potentially detestable candidate simply because of party affiliation. I'm now a firm believer that no one will ever be in agreement with all of a party's policies (unless the party does the thinking for you) so it makes more sense to examine the qualities and capabilities of the individual running for office. I even get that there are some die-hard "single issue voters," but that single issue shouldn't be as empty-headed as "R or D."
More and more, I saw ideas openly embraced by the party that I found unacceptable. Then everyone is expected to fall in line behind a potentially detestable candidate simply because of party affiliation. I'm now a firm believer that no one will ever be in agreement with all of a party's policies (unless the party does the thinking for you) so it makes more sense to examine the qualities and capabilities of the individual running for office. I even get that there are some die-hard "single issue voters," but that single issue shouldn't be as empty-headed as "R or D."
Yes. I consider the choices in the last, and current, election to be signs of a colossal failing of our 2-party system. If Dems could get over their hatred enough to just address the REAL flaws with Trump instead of creating completely false ones, they'd likely fare better. That, and if they could find a reasonably appealing candidate that isn't some washed up lifelong politician.
For me that means that I pay way more attention to local elections. 1) I can actually know a candidate better. 2) My millage rate is way more important that honoring false narratives from national parties. As I've stated elsewhere, my pipe dream for every national election is that the Executive and Legislative branches end up controlled by opposite parties. That way neither can screw things up too quickly.
Good question. First of all, I have deep moral and religious beliefs that will not allow me to cast a vote for a party platform with certain stances on certain issues. I'll let you guess what those are. I know that most R's will stand strong on that type of thing.
Second, we see what happens even if we send good democrats to Washington. They usually end up voting along party lines, which is the only reason they are there in the first place.
Third, my outlook on life and country is just so dramatically different then theirs.
The R is not always ideal (they are notorious for putting up terrible candidates), but I won't cast a vote for a D. Local elections like Mayor are less of a problem for me in that sense. I've voted for independents and I really wish there were more of them.
Second, we see what happens even if we send good democrats to Washington. They usually end up voting along party lines, which is the only reason they are there in the first place.
Third, my outlook on life and country is just so dramatically different then theirs.
The R is not always ideal (they are notorious for putting up terrible candidates), but I won't cast a vote for a D. Local elections like Mayor are less of a problem for me in that sense. I've voted for independents and I really wish there were more of them.
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Well, he was a lifelong Dem who couldn't figure out how to take over that party. Republicans were in a similar position to what Dems are now; nothing but crappy candidates to put forward. Then along came Obama. Had he been better at bridge building and not allowed himself to mostly bow down to party directives, I don't think that the US climate would have been so ripe for Trump. Obama's lack of ability/willingness (I know not which) to bring the country together contributed to this. He was pretty divisive, just not as in your face mean as Trump. Then you get Trump, who has stepped on everyone who disagrees with him for his entire career. Trump is basically a petulant child who never learned to share his toys...
I suspect that if Delbert were not in a position that he could retire, he'd be more for tradishun and history too.
This point is the lesson many of my friends here in Alabama learned the last time with Doug Jones. And why I’m glad he’ll be ousted this time around. Ran on false premise that he’d reach across the aisle and be a moderate candidate for all Alabamans. Yet whenever Schumer says jump, he’s responded “How high?”
Personally, I can’t vote for someone who aligns themself with a party that I have nothing in common with. If someone identifies with that party, I instantly understand that that person cannot represent me. Unless that person comes out as an extreme moderate or conservative Democrat, and willing to buck the party line, there’s no way I can pull the lever for that person.
I understand that politicians will say anything to get elected as well. I see very few, I repeat very few politicians buck the party line. 99% of those are Republicans. I can’t recall anyone outside of the WV senator Manchin (?) who will vote against liberal policies on the occasion.
So there’s one answer for you.
I understand that politicians will say anything to get elected as well. I see very few, I repeat very few politicians buck the party line. 99% of those are Republicans. I can’t recall anyone outside of the WV senator Manchin (?) who will vote against liberal policies on the occasion.
So there’s one answer for you.
Tate Reeves
You’ve probably seen the conversation raging in Jackson about the state flag. I’m glad that people are expressing their views. That’s exactly how this country is supposed to work. For my part, I’ve only had one real interest since I entered office when it comes to the flag: if it changes it should be by a vote of the people.
I think there’s a good chance that Mississippians’ views might have changed since the last vote in 2001, but the people should get to send that message. My primary goal is the unity of our people, and I really fear any action that would tear us apart.
There’s an effort underway across the country to erase our nation’s history—to pretend that all of us are so much better than our ancestors that we must eliminate their memory. They will tear down statues of Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson…southerners and northerners alike. All because they are ashamed of our country. I believe America is imperfect, but still the greatest country on earth. I get why some Mississippians don’t want to give an inch to the corporate, political, media pressure. That makes the honest efforts to change the flag harder—not easier. I don’t think that if you want to keep the flag you’re automatically a traitor or racist. I also understand that a flag isn’t about the past; it is a banner for the present. Outside of all the corporate posturing and preening, there is honest pain and discomfort felt when some Mississippians look at the symbol on our flag.
I’ve always tried to be honest with each of you, and I’ll be completely transparent with you now. I’m torn on the path forward for our state. I’ve been thinking, praying, and listening. I still don’t have all the answers. I still think a vote of the people that this flag represents is the best way.
Some legislative leaders have changed their position multiple times in recent days. Right now, they are considering suspending the rules to change the flag. It would take a two-thirds vote. That’s how many it takes to override a veto.
Make no mistake, a vote to change the rules is a vote to change the flag. If they get those votes, a veto would be pointless. That debate would be over, and the flag would change.
Like it or hate it—this is everything I’ve been thinking and praying about for the last few weeks. It’s the best way I can articulate my thoughts. God bless, Mississippi.
Completely non-committal . . . except for the 100% commitment to remain non-committal.
In my opinion, this is a complete lack of leadership by the Governor of Mississippi.
He should be ashamed of himself.
When Tate states that he thinks the citizens should vote on this issue, a reporter should ask: you're a citizen of Mississippi, which way would you vote on this flag issue?
Agree.
I'm definitely a conservative, but I refuse to identify myself as a Republican (or Democrat).
In my opinion, everyone should remain independent, so that both parties will not presume that you will automatically vote for whichever party you've joined.
If a sensible, reasonable, fiscally conservative Democrat steps forward, then I'll be happy to vote for him/her.
That was before he became a racist. Apparently hugging Al Sharpton in all those photo ops flipped his switch!
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