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This is the truth! And Leach called Kiffin and let him know we have the proof they paid Jones.
I love to hate Ole Miss!
Well, Cohen is the smartest guy in the room who hired a pathetic football coach that destroyed everything we built. He really has to try something because the Moorhead hire is haunting his ***.
Mississippi will self report and then be given two extra scholarships as part of the newly created Whistleblower Award.
I hate the fact that he’s likely transferring to our rival. I hate that it hurts our depth. But if he ain’t in it and with this team and doesn’t wanna be here then bye. He must have really loved Buckley. That’s the only thing that can even make this seem logical to me. A connection with a coach can have a lot of pull even in this crazy circumstance. Hope we throw for 600 yards on em this fall and for every season he’s there.
Isn't Joe Mo still in Starkville? Where is Leach, Florida? I'm sure Joe's wearing a neck brace from all the looking the other way. Okay fine, here they are...***
What should Leach be doing in your opinion? Also, how do you not know he isn’t doing whatever you suggest?
How exactly is he supposed to prevent it? We are right square in the middle of a pandemic with zero ability to keep an eye on players at all. What is he not doing that he should be doing? The problem is the culture that our former coach created to foster this rotten ******** entitled attitude by a lot of our players.
This is what you get when you have a hard *** for a coach. Mullen was the same way and his recruiting drove us crazy. What you’re seeing is how fickle our team was when they had a buddy for a coach. Does Lovett and (if true) Jones sign with us if Mullen or Leach is the coach? Maybe, but probably not.
You just have to take the good with the bad. I’m ok with Leach’s disciplinarian style. Still not sure about the Air Raid, but that’s another story.
I know a lot of folks won’t agree with this but Kiffin is a LOT like Moorhead. They are both system coaches who are good recruiters due to being buddies with players. I doubt you’ll see much discipline and accountability up there during his tenure. They’ll recruit well though and this is going to make our weaker fans heads explode.
You just have to take the good with the bad. I’m ok with Leach’s disciplinarian style. Still not sure about the Air Raid, but that’s another story.
I know a lot of folks won’t agree with this but Kiffin is a LOT like Moorhead. They are both system coaches who are good recruiters due to being buddies with players. I doubt you’ll see much discipline and accountability up there during his tenure. They’ll recruit well though and this is going to make our weaker fans heads explode.
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Damn I hate they the transfers but I also know I’d rather have players here that want to play for their teammates. Look end of the day these guys represent us but some of y’all need to realize they don’t play for us. They play for a team they believe in. If they aren’t a fit let them move on. There are talented players that aren’t loyal that never make a mark and there are less talented who step up and become great. I want players that want to be here and I’m sure our team expects the same thing.
These last few transfers won’t matter if we replace with players that want to be here.
These last few transfers won’t matter if we replace with players that want to be here.
Kiffin is a sleazebag who is now at a sleazebag school. There are two other SEC schools "Big Schools" who doesn't like him too much. I figure they will be all in going after his ***. I am positive Fat Phil will be all in. I also l would not rule out a third school. Strickland probably will not be happy and Mullen probably doesn't like Ole Miss as well. Those Rebels got in trouble last time for messing with the wrong schools. All the Ole Miss clowns are gone but those other schools remember.
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No, it sounds like he had a fun weekend in Oxford with OM football players, which is a clear case of tampering.
stories like this bring the sheep out of the woodwork with their badges and magnifying glasses.
While Kiffin resides in Boca. These two guys are just passing through Mississippi. Things will cycle again a a few short years.
aGAIN, the only contact coaches can have right now is electronic/zoom meetings, which our coaches are doing. Kiffin is in Florida right now too, so I am not sure why it matters where Leach is at the moment. Within the framework of the current rules, he can have the same amount of face to face contact with players as he could if he was in Starkville.
If Jones wants to leave, let him go. No clue how in the hell he expects to get a waiver to play immediately out of this one though. Normally I am all for players getting to play right away without sitting out in almost any situation, but I would fight it this time if I were Cohen.
This whole deal was obviously shady at best.
This sounds great and all, but OM has proven when they’re “all in” they can get away with paying players in broad daylight. OM will fight this tooth & nail and win.
I don’t get my hopes up with this stuff anymore. It’s best to accept it and move on. We will be fine and history shows J Jones will likely have little impact at OM if he ever sees the field.
My lasting memory (for now) of Jones and Terrell Buckley will be of a sophomore QB from Louisville torching our DB's including Jarion Jones in the Music City Bowl for a season high 360 yds on 16-23 completions and gaining the MVP trophy. Another sophomore (receiver) w/ the name of "Tutu" who is only 5'9" and weights a whopping 153 lbs torched our DB's that day w/ 9 catches for 147 yards. Jones chased Tutu all over the field that day. Good riddance to Jones and Buckley.............
He can’t be around the players right now, based on both COVID and NCAA regulations. Doesn’t matter where he lives. The only person that can be with the players between spring practice and fall camp is the strength coach, and even he can’t be with them right now. It sucks but it’s where we’re at due to this pandemic.
Do you really not comprehend that Leach can't have in person contact with his team right now and him not living in Starkville currently (just like Kiffin isn't in Oxford) has zero to do with what's going on? Leach has zoom meetings with the team the maximum time allowed by the NCAA. You're out of your depth.
Can't agree on the "accept it and move on". We need to raise as big a stink as we can so they'll think twice before doing it again. Since the beginning we've accepted getting run over and pushed around. It's time to stop it by fighting back in whatever way possible even if we don't get the results we want.
Are coaches not allowed to have contact with former players they have built relationships with?
That’s what I thought.
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Lol he can’t have contact with players right now. He’d just be sitting on his *** in Starkville. I’d rather be in Key West than Starkville.
I don't like it either, but the justification is that college students should be allowed to attend whatever college they like. Also, the NCAA has been losing lawsuits to the athletes pretty regularly and doesn't want to fight this issue.
Personally, I think that sports leagues should be able to set their own rules of competition for fairness, even if the participants are drawn from federally funded academic institutions. No one is preventing these players form attending UMiss if that's their choice, but the rules of competition should be able to prevent them from playing NCAA sports for at least a year in order to protect the integrity of the sports...assuming the member institutions decide that free transfers are detrimental to competition.
Do you really think coaches don't contact players during the no contact period? There's a reason Mullen built his office overlooking the practice field.
I don’t think they have in-person contact. Mullen did that so he could see who was busting *** and doing well in workouts and “voluntary” drills (which aren’t happening right now). In any case, I don’t think the relative proximity of an office to a practice field has any impact on a coach’s ability to keep a guy from transferring.
this may have changed, but I though they couldn't preside over practices. They are still are allowed to have so many hours of film session outside of season. I could be wrong but I though they could still interact with players it just couldn't be instructed like a practice. all of this covid doesn't keep them from keeping up with players and what they are doing making sure they have what they need and they are doing ok and keeping up with their weight training and personal film study.
It's also a lot of personal accountability with the players. we haven't had much time to instill that back in to the program before covid hit. Moorhead relied on that too much. You still have to help these guys stay accountable and then you have to have leaders actually step up and lead and keep others accountable.
It's going to be a really tough year for programs with new coaches because those coaches really didn't get a true off season to instill everything. players have been just doing whatever on their own for a while and counting on the players to do what they are supposed to unsupervised. some players can do that and others can't.
i'm never going to fault a player for transferring if they don't feel like they belong somewhere. i transferred too so i get it. I do fault other programs for tampering. but sometimes it is what it is. We get transfers and we lose players to transfers.
i'll just be thankful to have a season this year.
It's also a lot of personal accountability with the players. we haven't had much time to instill that back in to the program before covid hit. Moorhead relied on that too much. You still have to help these guys stay accountable and then you have to have leaders actually step up and lead and keep others accountable.
It's going to be a really tough year for programs with new coaches because those coaches really didn't get a true off season to instill everything. players have been just doing whatever on their own for a while and counting on the players to do what they are supposed to unsupervised. some players can do that and others can't.
i'm never going to fault a player for transferring if they don't feel like they belong somewhere. i transferred too so i get it. I do fault other programs for tampering. but sometimes it is what it is. We get transfers and we lose players to transfers.
i'll just be thankful to have a season this year.
I actually agree with this. Let our boy rosebowl know so he can start digging again.
The entire sleazy way that OM football operates with their boosters breaking and bending every NCAA rule in the book really sometimes makes me just turn negative on all of college football. And they are always at their worst during dead periods and apparently quarantines where our coaches aren't able to mind the store. Its also the reason I will never support things like NIL, transfers with no sit out, etc. Those things will just make it easier for OM boosters and their ilk to coerce and buy players for their program. I am going to be really pissed if Lovett and Jones somehow skirt the sit out rule to go play on the Plantation based on the ridiculous Leach retweet of the quarantine joke. And I'm already prepared to be pissed. Obviously Lovett and Jones think they can do this without sitting out or I don't believe they would be doing it. You don't leave a starting spot in the SEC to go to a worse program and sit out a year before you can start there. That doesn't even make good sense.
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