Out of state tuition

[fang]

MSU Grad living out of state and wanted to give my kids the opportunity to go there. I had the (obviously mistaken) impression that if a parent was an alumni, the out-of-state could be waived but found out that's not the case (email from an admissions person). Anybody got any info from experience?

 

[My Bru]

MSU Grad living out of state and wanted to give my kids the opportunity to go there. I had the (obviously mistaken) impression that if a parent was an alumni, the out-of-state could be waived but found out that's not the case (email from an admissions person). Anybody got any info from experience?

I think you get half of it waived, maybe? Not sure if that's still true.

On another note, this is why so many people leaving Mississippi hurts MSU. Most of them do not send their kids back to MSU unless they either love the school like you, or get a scholarship. And who can blame them? You have to do what makes sense financially. Many of them just want their kids to be with their 'friends' and they send them to Auburn or wherever, which personally I think is a dumb thing to do for any student. But alas, it happens.

 

[Dawgbite]

I'll sell you a square yard of land big enough to put a mailbox on.

 

[RocketDawg]

MSU Grad living out of state and wanted to give my kids the opportunity to go there. I had the (obviously mistaken) impression that if a parent was an alumni, the out-of-state could be waived but found out that's not the case (email from an admissions person). Anybody got any info from experience?

There was a benefit of that sort to alumni at some point in time, but it could have changed. It might have had to be accompanied by a certain SAT/ACT score too.

 

[aTotal360]

Correct. The only automatic waiving of OOS tuition is if a parent is a veteran.

 

[Polygonal]

Our daughter is a graduating HS senior and both my wife and I are State grads. The scholarship letter had us getting 25% of OOS tuition waived per parent, for a total of 50% waived. We are not veterans.

When I went to Grad school in 1993, all OOS was waived because my dad attended State, not graduated. The bar has moved over the years.

 

[Polygonal]

BTW - Not getting all OOS waived was a factor in our decision for our daughter to not attend State. I love my alma mater and have been a multi-sport season ticket holder since 1991, but the cost of a degree from State at OOS tuition prices - even at 50% off OOS - is too high when compared to the cost of in-state tuition and quality of education from schools in our state.

 

[mstateglfr]

There used to be an ACT score requirement to get OOS waived. It was 26 back in '99 when I enrolled. Didn't matter how you did in classes either- you got in state tuition for all enrolled years. Good stuff.

https://www.grad.msstate.edu/funding-tuition/tuition-exemptions
Looks like a child of an alum gets $6000 off tuition, but a 3.0 must always be maintained.

 

[57stratdawg]

Do you know anyone in Mississippi? Just use their address. Is your kid living off campus? Use that address.

 

[Walter White.sixpack]

BTW - Not getting all OOS waived was a factor in our decision for our daughter to not attend State. I love my alma mater and have been a multi-sport season ticket holder since 1991, but the cost of a degree from State at OOS tuition prices - even at 50% off OOS - is too high when compared to the cost of in-state tuition and quality of education from schools in our state.

I'm assuming it's a done deal by now, but I know of non-alumni from TX who had their daughter's OOS tuition waived because of a specific major. I don't know all the details, but it was a sweet deal.

[I think that sometimes helps with baseball too.]

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

So ya saying that someone who lives out of state should get same benefit as someone who has been paying State of Mississippi taxes for 20 years?

 

[msu_wx]

So ya saying that someone who lives out of state should get same benefit as someone who has been paying State of Mississippi taxes for 20 years?

No, but as a parent of 5 (both my wife and I graduated from State), it would be nice to have the same OOS benefit that used to be in place. I think the benefit to the University of children of alumni, that love State, attending and becoming alumni would outweigh the OOS fees collected in the long run.... by a wide margin.

 

[Dawgzilla]

There was a benefit of that sort to alumni at some point in time, but it could have changed. It might have had to be accompanied by a certain SAT/ACT score too.

Used to be a 26+ ACT score and parent is an alum meant no OOS tuition. My dad had taken some graduate level courses in Jackson that were sponsored by State, and he qualified as an alum.

This was in the 80s. I also heard that a Chi O from Missouri enrolled her mom in a correspondence course, and then the daughter did all the work and showed up to take the exam. Her mom got college credit, was considered an alum, and OOS was waived for the daughter.

 

[LexSCDOG]

Back in 2014 when our son(both MSU grads) went to MSU, he got 50% waived, then the other 50% waived for having >=26 on the ACT. I thought it was 50% if you had one parent that was an alumni. Anyway, I do remember it used to be 100% based on being an Alumni.

Used to be a 26+ ACT score and parent is an alum meant no OOS tuition. My dad had taken some graduate level courses in Jackson that were sponsored by State, and he qualified as an alum.This was in the 80s. I also heard that a Chi O from Missouri enrolled her mom in a correspondence course, and then the daughter did all the work and showed up to take the exam. Her mom got college credit, was considered an alum, and OOS was waived for the daughter.

 

[HumpDawgy]

I think you get half of it waived, maybe? Not sure if that's still true.

On another note, this is why so many people leaving Mississippi hurts MSU. Most of them do not send their kids back to MSU unless they either love the school like you, or get a scholarship. And who can blame them? You have to do what makes sense financially. Many of them just want their kids to be with their 'friends' and they send them to Auburn or wherever, which personally I think is a dumb thing to do for any student. But alas, it happens.

I agree. My daughter wanted to go to state, but with OOS tuition, it wouldn't be a financially sound decision. This needs to go back to the way it was. There was a time when it all was waived. All we are doing is pushing more people out of Mississippi.

 

[mstateglfr]

I agree. My daughter wanted to go to state, but with OOS tuition, it wouldn't be a financially sound decision. This needs to go back to the way it was. There was a time when it all was waived. All we are doing is pushing more people out of Mississippi.

I benefitted from the OOS waiver, but even with my bias, I don't understand your last comment.

You are saying that by not letting people from out of state come and attend college at MSU for in state prices, we are pushing more people out of Mississippi?
Huh?

 

[TulsaLawDawg]

That’s right. I’m a 2002 grad, raised my boy to love State and we’ve lived out of state most his life. He starts at MSU in the fall. He’s getting in-State tuition bc I’m a veteran, not alumni.

 

[My Bru]

I benefitted from the OOS waiver, but even with my bias, I don't understand your last comment.

You are saying that by not letting people from out of state come and attend college at MSU for in state prices, we are pushing more people out of Mississippi?
Huh?

Perhaps it was worded slightly incorrectly, but you get the point. It's preventing people who may come to MSU (and then may go to work or start a business in Mississippi) from doing so.

Stop being so damn argumentative about the little things, that's why you get such a bad rap.

 

[My Bru]

I agree. My daughter wanted to go to state, but with OOS tuition, it wouldn't be a financially sound decision. This needs to go back to the way it was. There was a time when it all was waived. All we are doing is pushing more people out of Mississippi.

It might make sense if you live in a state where education is very expensive (at least at State U), but if you're in Alabama, it certainly does not. I can't say I'd do it if I was out of state, and I've been there before so I had to think about it.

Maybe send them to JUCO and then a smaller school, and they can still be a fan of MSU? I guess if they grow up, get a job, and come to sporting events at MSU, that's a pretty good turnout. Last thing we need is more damn Auburn or Alabama fans (or Texas A&M, lot of MSU family kids are going there now) who were spawned out of the MSU family.

 

[My Bru]

I think that sometimes helps with baseball too.

I think we could probably use our tuition to help us in baseball. Even though say, Vandy, can give a bigger scholarship, their tuition is still much more, so maybe our players end up paying less in the end, even for a smaller % scholarship? Never done the math there, but I'm sure Cohen has.

 

[maroonmania]

There is no longer any 'waiving' of out-of-state tuition costs. If your child has either parent that is an alumnus of MSU then as long as the student has a 3.0 HS GPA or better they can get an alumni scholarship of $4,000 per year to help offset out of state costs. Of course that nowhere near covers the additional out of state costs but can be combined with other non-resident scholarships (starting with ACT score of 22) that can cover most if not all the additional out of state tuition costs. My daughter that is currently at MSU has the alumni scholarship and a non-resident academic scholarship combined and we pay pretty close to what a MS resident with no scholarship would pay.

https://www.admissions.msstate.edu/scholarships

 

[Rayburn8]

Pretty sure OOS is waived completely with a 28 or 30 on the ACT. I know it is different for different states. I know people from Alabama need less to get OOS waived than other states. It is why State is getting a TON of students out of Bham right now. May be this way for other states, I know a lot of people from Memphis and Nashville at State.

 

[My Bru]

Pretty sure OOS is waived completely with a 28 or 30 on the ACT. I know it is different for different states. I know people from Alabama need less to get OOS waived than other states. It is why State is getting a TON of students out of Bham right now. May be this way for other states, I know a lot of people from Memphis and Nashville at State.

We also have a ton of alumni in Birmingham (and Huntsville and West Tennessee for that matter). But yeah I hope you are right.

Another place we need to be recruiting heavily is East Texas.

 

[Rayburn8]

We also have a ton of alumni in Birmingham (and Huntsville and West Tennessee for that matter). But yeah I hope you are right.

Another place we need to be recruiting heavily is East Texas.

I know with Bama it is. I know lots of people who came to State over Auburn because State is still cheaper.

 

[RocketDawg]

Don't the counties adjacent to Mississippi in Alabama and other bordering states get out of state waivers?

I don't know how many students come from Birmingham, but based on the sendoff party for the Huntsville area, about 85-90 are entering freshmen each year. And about 90% of those are engineering students.

I don't really have any problem with MSU charging out of state tuition. The folks who live there support the school with their taxes - those from other states support their own state schools. MSU does waive out of state tuition for really well qualified students, and that's a good thing.

 

[My Bru]

I know with Bama it is. I know lots of people who came to State over Auburn because State is still cheaper.

I'm hoping that the people who set the prices know things like this, and keep the prices where they are for that reason. I may be giving them more credit than they deserve though, and it's all coincidence.

 

[maroonmania]

I know with Bama it is. I know lots of people who came to State over Auburn because State is still cheaper.

Its because MSU starts giving significant scholarships on ACT scores well before AL and Auburn do. If you don't get a 30 or better you will not get anything significant from AL or Aub. If you have an ACT score between 22-29 it is cheaper to go to MSU with the scholarships offered than go to AL and Aub with basically no scholarship even being an AL resident.

 

[RocketDawg]

I know with Bama it is. I know lots of people who came to State over Auburn because State is still cheaper.

No, not the case. In-state Auburn is about half what they'd pay out of state at MSU.

In-state at Auburn is $11,276. Out of state is $30,524

In-state at MSU is $8,650. Out of state is $23,250

 

[DawgInThe256]

I took my daughter to the Spring Preview for prospective students earlier this year. During the financial aid presentation, there was much discussion of the ACT related aid, but the alumni discount wasn't mentioned until I specifically asked about it.

There's also something called the Academic Common Market if none of your in state options offer certain majors available at MSU.

http://www.catalog.msstate.edu/undergraduate/admissionsinformation/legalresidentstatus/