397 new cases yesterday

[kired]

I've been one to say we can't pay attention to the daily totals due to inconsistencies in reporting, testing, etc. But that number is a little alarming after consistently staying in that 200-300 range for a while. Anyone that keeps up with this more than I do know if that was related to a particular hotspot or area of the state? Or do they think it's just related to increased testing?

 

[ronpolk]

I almost with they would quit reporting new cases and just report new hospitalizations or total number of ICU beds in use. If a large majority truly are not greatly impacted by this, the total number of cases does nothing but alarm people for no good reason.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I know my wife’s Hospital started doing In house testing this week.... looking at the ICU, Ventilator and Hospitalization Numbers are pretty flat...also 11 of the deaths reported today were actually from March 29th to April 16th...

 

[BossDawg78]

I almost with they would quit reporting new cases and just report new hospitalizations or total number of ICU beds in use.

But they couldn't whip the public into an irrational frenzy if they did that.

 

[WrapItDog]

The Dr at Tater's press conference today said the hotspots were in the Scott, Newton, Neshoba county area of the State.

 

[Lettucexxxx]

My grandmother has been in a nursing home for about 3 months. They had an outbreak last week at the home.... She was tested Tuesday. News came back that she tested positive today.

She’s 87, early dementia....but hope she maintains her good heart and lungs. Sucks.

 

[Ralph Cramden]

I'm one of the people that think this panic is ridiculous and we would be better served to continue our regular lives and let the virus do its thing. The people at most risk are not working and are retired. I do think it is very serious for the elderly. I do all the shopping for my dad so he doesnt have to go out. Personally I'm not worried at all but he is 77. I wish your grandmother the best.

 

[campshelbydog842003]

The sooner people refigure out that the majority of this country is going to get this largely non lethal virus the better off we will be. We went from flattening the curve to thinking that we have to try and prevent everyone from getting this at some point and it’s insane. The sooner everyone gets this (and you’re probably getting it if you haven’t already) the sooner we can move on. It’s time to stop moving the goalposts and face the reality of the situation instead of pointlessly bleeding everyone in the country dry. As long as the hospitals aren’t overwhelmed the numbers don’t matter unless the numbers are people that are over 60.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

How many tests are being done a day now? I know they changed the guidelines to where you only needed one symptom to be tested.

 

[JacksonDevilDog]

This.

The sooner sooner people refigure out that the majority of this country is going to get this largely non lethal virus the better off we will be. We went from flattening the curve to thinking that we have to try and prevent everyone from getting this at some point and it’s insane. The sooner everyone gets this (and you’re probably getting it if you haven’t already) the sooner we can move on. It’s time to stop moving the goalposts and face the reality of the situation instead of pointlessly bleeding everyone in the country dry. As long as the hospitals aren’t overwhelmed the numbers don’t matter unless the numbers are people that are over 60.

 

[Hubcitydog]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pe...will-shift-back-to-normal.html?outputType=amp

this is from Pitt, not two docs in California. We are chasing our tails if we are basing opening on new tests and expanding testing with high prevalence and low mortality

 

[tenureplan]

Requiring an employee to return to the office when he/she is already productive at home and said employee ends up getting the Rona and dying is going to end up in serious litigation.

 

[CowDoc.sixpack]

The modeling tool I’ve been using predicted 371 new cases in MS yesterday. I’ve been surprised at how accurate it’s been over the last couple weeks. It also predicts a fairly significant decrease in new cases next week (less than 100 per day). I’m anxious to see how accurate the prediction is.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

I’m having a hard time why this reply has nothing but downvotes.

 

[FreeDawg]

because folks have lost their minds

 

[Digging dog]

because folks have lost their minds

Thumbs up. Up vote.

 

[Cooterpoot]

How many of you missed where Tot said they went back and changed the cause of deaths on several deceased people to COVID? I didn't miss it.
Looks like MS is getting into that Empire State of mind.....

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

11 of the 20 deaths from today’s report were previous deaths counted as Covid19.

 

[Hubcitydog]

Also remember that our nursing homes are getting pounded. They will ultimately account for 50% of the deaths. It is a damn shame and I wish something could be done - and maybe something could be. But societal measures have no affect there and those numbers shouldn’t factor in to societal plans.

 

[Dawgg]

But societal measures have no affect there and those numbers shouldn’t factor in to societal plans.

That’s not true.
It’s not like these people are in prisons. People in nursing homes don’t exist in a vacuum. They have families just like the rest of us and maybe more importantly, people they interact with on a daily basis (doctors, nurses, therapists, caretakers, etc.).
Societal measures DO have an effect on the people to whom nursing home residents are exposed, ergo societal measures DO affect nursing home residents.

 

[Hubcitydog]

Sorry but you are mostly wrong. There is no family visitation to nursing homes right now, so society’s burden isn’t shared with that population really. Strict measures on who is allowed, temp checking essential employees, disinfecting shipments, isolating those infected and infection control measures within the home/staff are the measures that are 99.9% of the control in those populations.

 

[Cooterpoot]

Sorry but you are mostly wrong. There is no family visitation to nursing homes right now, so society’s burden isn’t shared with that population really. Strict measures on who is allowed, temp checking essential employees, disinfecting shipments, isolating those infected and infection control measures within the home/staff are the measures that are 99.9% of the control in those populations.

And those measures don't include actual testing of employees. That's why it's tearing through homes. The reason they weren't tested....not enough tests because those were reserved for only those with certain symptoms. What's happening in society is effecting the homes. Even if indirectly.

 

[Hubcitydog]

Hang on- lack of testing is affecting nursing homes and disproportionately so. What I meant was that sheltering has no substantive affect there.
I would argue that lack of testing has minimal affect on the general population but a very large affect on nursing homes and a modest one in other healthcare situations and less so in some employment situations.

 

[L4Dawg]

The sooner sooner people refigure out that the majority of this country is going to get this largely non lethal virus the better off we will be. We went from flattening the curve to thinking that we have to try and prevent everyone from getting this at some point and it’s insane. The sooner everyone gets this (and you’re probably getting it if you haven’t already) the sooner we can move on. It’s time to stop moving the goalposts and face the reality of the situation instead of pointlessly bleeding everyone in the country dry. As long as the hospitals aren’t overwhelmed the numbers don’t matter unless the numbers are people that are over 60.

Yeah, it's only old folks. I am absolutely appalled at that argument. The lack of regard for human life it represents is scary.

 

[L4Dawg]

Sorry but you are mostly wrong. There is no family visitation to nursing homes right now, so society’s burden isn’t shared with that population really. Strict measures on who is allowed, temp checking essential employees, disinfecting shipments, isolating those infected and infection control measures within the home/staff are the measures that are 99.9% of the control in those populations.

Most of the nursing home outbreaks are almost certainly caused now by asymptomatic employees. They will never exist in a vacuum no matter how much wishful thinking the "isolate the old and sick and open it up" crowd indulges in.

 

[Dawgg]

Hang on- lack of testing is affecting nursing homes and disproportionately so. What I meant was that sheltering has no substantive affect there.
I would argue that lack of testing has minimal affect on the general population but a very large affect on nursing homes and a modest one in other healthcare situations and less so in some employment situations.

1. For the love of God... Effect is a noun and Affect is a verb. You’re driving me crazy with that.

2. Affect/effect notwithstanding, nothing you said in that paragraph made a lick of sense.

 

[Hubcitydog]

Ok. You work in healthcare. Tell me how “lock everyone down” results in nursing home and healthcare workers not being exposed and taking it in to nursing homes. You and others come at this with an attitude that I am uncaring of nursing home populations when nothing could be further from the truth. I have been saying for some time that these people are going to get destroyed unless something changes. Those changes can’t some in society at large as it can’t possibly have any benefit. Has the current plan offered them any protection? If we continue this do you think it will start paying off down the road?

Do you think that we are going to shelter and make this die down and go away?

 

[Hubcitydog]

1 yeah I botched that bad - at least I’m not alone in that in this thread

2 how does it not make sense? Testing is of more value in some populations for several reasons but one way to look at it is where does a positive test result in different management. In nursing home patients and staff it changes access and exposure. It does in some other healthcare settings. It may in certain workforce settings.

I think widespread testing is great in general and we will get there, but I think priority should be given to nursing homes in testing- so if we are to start with testing of asymptotic workers it should start there.

 

[campshelbydog842003]

Yeah, it's only old folks. I am absolutely appalled at that argument. The lack of regard for human life it represents is scary.

Your sheep minded ignorance about what a continual shutdown would look like is what is scary. You want to bleed the country dry while spacing out deaths that are going to end up happening anyway and it’s one of the dumbest 17ing strategies we could possibly come up with. You are going to have way more deaths on the back end than anyone wanting to open up now will have on the front end and you can’t see anything except what’s right in front of your face. YOU are the scary one and you’re too short sighted to see it.

 

[engie]

Yeah, it's only old folks. I am absolutely appalled at that argument. The lack of regard for human life it represents is scary.

Hit me with a solution then.(I already know you don’t have one)

 

[thatsbaseball]

I would be curious why anybody up voted or more particularly down voted this and why. It's an absolutely benign post....what am I missing here ?

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

It just hammers home the point that older people need to be more careful and if you interact with older people then you need to be more careful, otherwise it’s not as bad for younger people. Between the ages of 1 and 60 there have been 30 deaths. Over 60 there have been 251....thats 90 percent of the deaths.

 

[thatsbaseball]

As an "older person" I'm ready for all the young folks to get back to work and pay their taxes**

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Get off my lawn.

 

[mount lefroy]

Yeah, it's only old folks. I am absolutely appalled at that argument. The lack of regard for human life it represents is scary.

NOTHING should surprise you if you've read a sports message board long enough. This and other sports message boards have been a petri dish for the attitudes this country has witnessed since 2017. (and before)

It goes like this: Take an emotional uninformed stance. Defend it to whatever illogical corners of the universe one must imagine. NEVER admit your original point was wrong.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Welcome to social media.

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

Ok. You work in healthcare. Tell me how “lock everyone down” results in nursing home and healthcare workers not being exposed and taking it in to nursing homes. You and others come at this with an attitude that I am uncaring of nursing home populations when nothing could be further from the truth. I have been saying for some time that these people are going to get destroyed unless something changes. Those changes can’t some in society at large as it can’t possibly have any benefit. Has the current plan offered them any protection? If we continue this do you think it will start paying off down the road?

Do you think that we are going to shelter and make this die down and go away?

Like everything else in life, everyone seems to polarize this, some externally, but most internally. In most people's minds they hear either "end the lockdown, get on with normal life, and don't worry about it. I am not going to quit shaking hands, or kissing babies, or wear a mask... Yada, yada, yada." On the other side, they hear..."Lockdown until there is a vaccine. Only essential workers should leave the house. Everyone that does leave needs a drone escort by the Gestapo."

The reality, like everything else in life, the vast majority of people are in the middle and pretty much agree other than a few slight differences. We just can't seem to agree on the how to verbalize it to each other. I am one of the "alarmists" on this board in regards to how dangerous I think Covid 19 is, but I still feel it's time to get back out there. The hospitals are not overwhelmed. Great. We did it.

It is time to end the lockdown for most people in most places. But that doesn't mean we aren't going to take some reasonable safety measures. But if you start of the conversation by discussing how dangerous the virus is or on the other side how much we have hurt the economy... The knives are out, even though most will agree on everything else.

 

[DeltaChicagoDog]

This is positive, if sobering news. It's important that we begin to reintegrate ourselves into the world, and with the understanding that there is yet another illness on top of the many others we already have to contend with. Sucks, but we can't hide ourselves away and pretend that if we wait long enough it'll be gone. If we do, we'll have scores of additional problems including a depleted tax base, debilitating levels of unemployment, and potentially skyrocketing levels of depression, hunger, and self harm whether through active or passive means like alcohol and substance abuse.

 

[RiverCityDawg]

Yeah, it's only old folks. I am absolutely appalled at that argument. The lack of regard for human life it represents is scary.

Unfortunately we can't have it both ways - zero deaths and no economic/social disaster (which also causes deaths, by the way), so adults have to make hard decisions with the big picture in view. You may call it lack of regard for human life, but we can't continue with 30 million unemployed and all the ancillary implications caused by that when the data is now showing us that this virus presents almost no risk for 73% of the population, which is most of the people that make the economy go.

You seem to think this is about convenience, but I would argue it shows more lack of regard for human life to ignore the other side of the coin, which happens to be the side of the coin supported by data at this point. I admire you're heart for the sick and vulnerable, I just think it's a little shortsighted.

 

[Cooterpoot]

Hit me with a solution then.(I already know you don’t have one)

Daily testing of employees utilizing shifts.