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Either the POTUS or Doctor Birx mentioned that there was a test on the way for that during today's Town hall on Fox
Certainly no downside to it. It’s apparently, cheap and easy...like Ole Miss girls
Same experience with my daughter. Flu test negative, dr said she’d be better a few days. She wasn’t, took a full week. I’ve been wondering.
It's the theory of Some professor at the University of Oxford.
https://twitter.com/claytravis/status/1242564364248416257?s=21
https://twitter.com/claytravis/status/1242564364248416257?s=21
Ive been thinking something has been odd about the fact that there were an abnormal amount of respiratory issues last fall, including lots of cases of pneumonia. My boss and my nephew both got it.
I don’t give a 17 who says it at this point, if it ends this ******** 1 day earlier I’m all for it. We can worry about politics after we get back going, but this garbage of the most powerful economy and country in the modern world being shut down to nothing has got to stop.
Probably way on the light side
I'd say millions have already been infected and have recovered or are recovering. Or maybe they knew it, but simply had light enough symptoms to not do anything about it and be picked up in a statistic.
I'd say millions have already been infected and have recovered or are recovering. Or maybe they knew it, but simply had light enough symptoms to not do anything about it and be picked up in a statistic.
I would not be a bit surprised. Docs would call it the flu, para influenza virus, or an unknown virus. Without a proper test, no one knows. The CDC really dropped the ball on the test. And the WHO is basically worthless.
I would not be surprise it has been here for a while. I got sick four weeks ago. 104 temp. I have never been that sick before. I did not test positive for Flu.
My wife is a healthcare provider, she believes this to be true. She saw lots and lots of negative flu test with obvious flu like symptoms. At the time she said the must have been getting a lot of false negatives on the flu testing. Now she is thinking it was most likely this. She also said a high percentage of those cases exhibited a bad cough and a significant respiratory element to the illness.
Here is the problem with theory that this was around months ago - why did it not fill up ICUs months ago like its doing now in some places (ex NOLA and looks like BR too)? If the same virus was here in January, we should have had a similar problem with huge clusters of people dying then.
Look up Lambeth house. Think count is now 9 people that died from that one retirement home alone. Yes they were old, yes they had medical problems - but if 9 people died from what was thought to be the “flu” that quickly in relatively small group, there would have been more investigation than to just say it was the “flu”.
As for questioning a mutation of virus that affected you few months back causing the new problems, guess what? Then you’re (probably) still at risk! That’s why you get a new influenza vaccine every year - influenza mutates and small change leaves you susceptible. Fully admit that influenza has big mutations some years that is not quite what people described above but I think my point still stands.
- this is also part of the problem why they have not been able to come up with HIV vaccine, it mutates very easily and would need vaccine to induce response to every mutation
Hopefully my thoughts were concise enough
Look up Lambeth house. Think count is now 9 people that died from that one retirement home alone. Yes they were old, yes they had medical problems - but if 9 people died from what was thought to be the “flu” that quickly in relatively small group, there would have been more investigation than to just say it was the “flu”.
As for questioning a mutation of virus that affected you few months back causing the new problems, guess what? Then you’re (probably) still at risk! That’s why you get a new influenza vaccine every year - influenza mutates and small change leaves you susceptible. Fully admit that influenza has big mutations some years that is not quite what people described above but I think my point still stands.
- this is also part of the problem why they have not been able to come up with HIV vaccine, it mutates very easily and would need vaccine to induce response to every mutation
Hopefully my thoughts were concise enough
Testing has been the key since before this thing even got here. If you can identify where virus is then you can have more precise and effective containment efforts. Mass Testing will be the rope that gets us to a vaccine.
what makes this virus so bad is the vast majority of infected people don't know they are infected..or if they have very minor symptoms they shrug it off as a cold or allergies. I have no doubt it was here in December and January to some extent as there was a significant amount of travel from China
I’m not saying it couldn’t have been circulating then. But there are a decent percentage of false negative flu results every winter. During heavy flu periods, the test may only be about 50/50. I’ve had patients before who tested negative one day and then positive the next. And family members with exactly similar symptoms and one tests positive and one negative. Folks, including providers, are often too lazy to think past the results of a quick and easy swab. (And unless you have atypical pneumonia or whooping cough, that zpak wasn’t likely gonna do much for you anyway.)
The nursing home I cover got put on lockdown a few months ago due to flu and flu-like symptoms. Multiple elderly sickly folks, at least 13 on the first day; as well as some staff. None died and I only recall one being hospitalized. Certainly wouldn’t have been consistent with corona.
The nursing home I cover got put on lockdown a few months ago due to flu and flu-like symptoms. Multiple elderly sickly folks, at least 13 on the first day; as well as some staff. None died and I only recall one being hospitalized. Certainly wouldn’t have been consistent with corona.
I don’t think China would have welded apartment doors shut in January over something that everybody and their momma in Mississippi got back in the fall. Especially since every person that has stated this has lived through it. They left people to die to prevent this virus from spreading. There are many types of pneumonia. Some bacterial, some viral, and some fungal. It wasn’t this.