Buy/Sell: biggest lie during this virus outbreak

[horshack.sixpack]

People who imply or state that they aren't hoarding. I haven't seen one person online or in person admit that they've hoarded food/supplies or agree that it's OK, but many shelves are still bare. Liars!

For those of you who are really hoarding, make a note. I really am not. I'm buying my normal weekly amount, and even among you hoarders, I'm still surviving just fine. You can stop now.

 

[Dawgcap]

But yet they are the ones who complain about people not staying home. Now you have people going to the stores 4-5 times a week trying to catch items in stock that they need

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I was completely blown away by the "we're so worried about getting this that we want to pack into Kroger with all the other panic stricken folks at the same time to hoard food" crowd. I mean surely they realize that their proximity to others instantly increased their risk of infection, right?

Now that Kroger closes at 9, go at 8. You'll be mostly alone and you can get food to eat. Selection may be sketchy but nobody is starving. When the canned spinach disappears from the shelves, and I run out of ammo to shoot deer, I'll begin to consider worrying about starvation.

 

[thatsbaseball]

I don't know if it was because the shelves were bare as I didn't go in but I drove through the parking lot a Kroger (Madison) about an hour ago and there weren't many cars there at all. The hoarding was wrong but I think it's effects are about to diminish.

 

[EagleDawg97]

I tried to run into Lowe’s on Saturday to get some electrical supplies as I had a plug and switch fail. I was shocked at the number or elderly out shopping and just socializing with one another. For the group most at risk in this, they seem to be some of the least concerned!

This was the first store I had been to in like 9 days, so I was a pretty surprised. I assumed everyone was hunkered down like we are at my house.

 

[johnson86-1]

People who imply or state that they aren't hoarding. I haven't seen one person online or in person admit that they've hoarded food/supplies or agree that it's OK, but many shelves are still bare. Liars!

For those of you who are really hoarding, make a note. I really am not. I'm buying my normal weekly amount, and even among you hoarders, I'm still surviving just fine. You can stop now.

There are definitely hoarders, but I think a big part of the problem is that very few people keep their fridge and pantries stocked for two weeks worth of stuff, so you have a lot of people suddenly doubling what they buy. Put that together with a little bit of panic buying, and you've got a shortage. And even for the people that do keep their fridge and pantry stocked with two weeks of stuff, they think of that as 'normal' and think getting two weeks of supplies means at the very least an extra two weeks on top of that, or maybe four weeks since they view a two week supply as 'normal' stock.

ETA: we bought twice as much ground beef as normal since we usually buy for one week at a time. Got an extra gallon of milk, got twice as many eggs, etc. Wouldn't look like hoarding but if everybody does that, you are talking about doubling the amount of groceries bought, at least for one week before people go back to topping up one week at a time.

 

[turkish]

Hoarding is how many weeks of supplies?

 

[stateu1]

There are definitely hoarders, but I think a big part of the problem is that very few people keep their fridge and pantries stocked for two weeks worth of stuff, so you have a lot of people suddenly doubling what they buy. Put that together with a little bit of panic buying, and you've got a shortage. And even for the people that do keep their fridge and pantry stocked with two weeks of stuff, they think of that as 'normal' and think getting two weeks of supplies means at the very least an extra two weeks on top of that, or maybe four weeks since they view a two week supply as 'normal' stock.

ETA: we bought twice as much ground beef as normal since we usually buy for one week at a time. Got an extra gallon of milk, got twice as many eggs, etc. Wouldn't look like hoarding but if everybody does that, you are talking about doubling the amount of groceries bought, at least for one week before people go back to topping up one week at a time.

Exactly. Plus people can't go out to eat anymore. We usually eat full service 3-4 time a week-definitely Friday, Saturday and usually Sunday. We can't do that now, so we had to buy more groceries.

 

[PBRME]

I’m in 2 camps on this. The excessive hoarding is bad, but 2 weeks ago anyone that didn’t see this coming needs to expand their news sources.

 

[RightOfCenter]

My wife thinks it has turned into a "game" or mental hangup for people. They have become obsessed with either the fact that they want to be the one to get the last of what they need(no matter how much they have to buy) or they are operating like a brainless zombies. When this is all over, they will have 400 sq of living space filled with TP and Ramen noodles to show Dr. Phil.

 

[TaleofTwoDogs]

Just back from Kroger's parking lot pick up service and they filled about 40% of my order which was our normal week's groceries for two people. No meat, low dairy and bakery. But my wife
stopped at an Albertson's on the way from work and was able to buy hamburger meat, but no chicken, It seems that distribution is sporadic at best.

Fifty years from now, a construction crew will probably excavate a site and probably discover a stash of toilet paper buried in an under ground bunker. Hard times.

 

[johnson86-1]

My wife thinks it has turned into a "game" or mental hangup for people. They have become obsessed with either the fact that they want to be the one to get the last of what they need(no matter how much they have to buy) or they are operating like a brainless zombies. When this is all over, they will have 400 sq of living space filled with TP and Ramen noodles to show Dr. Phil.

The toilet paper is still baffling to me. We buy a large pack of toilet paper when we buy it and I don't think we buy it even once a month. Even if we had been on the verge of running out, a four-pack would last us a long time.

 

[mstateglfr]

Sell, but I want get into what some of the biggest lies have been.

As for hoarding, when I have gone to the grocery store over the last 2 weeks(2 actual shopping trips and 2 quick runs for a couple items), I havent seen anyone that was obviously hoarding. There havent been carts overflowing with one or two products.

I've come to guess that what's really happening is people are going 3-4 times a week and buying normal amounts each time. The result is the same(hoarding) and it's actually worse since those people are out and about many more times than necessary.


Why the powdered mashed potatoes and ramen noodles are gone off of every shelf in our metro is beyond me. Pick some better shelf stable items than a salt lick pretending to be mashed potatoes or a salt lick pretending to be noodle soup.

 

[kired]

Running through the neighborhood Sunday morning, noticed at one house with their garage door open. One car was gone and stacked inside I'd guess they had at least 20 cases of bottled water. A lot of other stuff I couldn't make out, some appeared to be bounty paper towels.

What are you doing with so much bottled water? My family of 4 goes through a case maybe every 2 weeks so that would last me almost a year. It's like people are preparing for a hurricane instead of a virus. We still have running water for god's sake.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

First place I would loot**

 

[BogeyGolfer.sixpack]

Running through the neighborhood Sunday morning, noticed at one house with their garage door open. One car was gone and stacked inside I'd guess they had at least 20 cases of bottled water. A lot of other stuff I couldn't make out, some appeared to be bounty paper towels.

What are you doing with so much bottled water? My family of 4 goes through a case maybe every 2 weeks so that would last me almost a year. It's like people are preparing for a hurricane instead of a virus. We still have running water for god's sake.

Because people do not want to be inconvenienced at all and are willing to be selfish in order to prevent it.....

 

[Drebin]

People who imply or state that they aren't hoarding. I haven't seen one person online or in person admit that they've hoarded food/supplies or agree that it's OK, but many shelves are still bare. Liars!

For those of you who are really hoarding, make a note. I really am not. I'm buying my normal weekly amount, and even among you hoarders, I'm still surviving just fine. You can stop now.

I think you have to define hoarding. I mean, there are folks who believe in being stocked up on stuff all the time, and wouldn't necessarily be called hoarders when there's not a pandemic going on.

My wife stockpiles ****. We have about a month's worth of toilet paper at all times. I used to ask her how much she thinks we need. She's in "I told you so" mode right now. We haven't bought a roll of toilet paper since this thing started and we're still fine.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Hoarding = buying way more than you normally buy because you are afraid of a virus.

 

[johnson86-1]

I’m in 2 camps on this. The excessive hoarding is bad, but 2 weeks ago anyone that didn’t see this coming needs to expand their news sources.

So you are arguing that everybody should have started hoarding two weeks ago? If people stocked up on two weeks of supplies two weeks ago, they'd still need to be restocking now.

 

[Shamoan]

I think that if you have a family, you are doing a disservice to them if you dont have enough food at home to get them through the next month at a minimum. you dont know how things are going to shake out and future availability. you have to prepare for the worst case scenario although that scenario is highly unlikely.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Still makes no sense to me. If you want to worry about food supply, the regular news about bee colonies dying off for no reason should be a bigger scare than a human virus.

 

[PBRME]

So you are arguing that everybody should have started hoarding two weeks ago? If people stocked up on two weeks of supplies two weeks ago, they'd still need to be restocking now.

No. What I’m saying is if people would’ve paid attention to what was happening around the world they wouldn’t be on here bitching about no toilet paper.

 

[Shamoan]

its not necessarily normal people you have to worry about, its the irrational people that are scaring all the normal people into doing things they wouldnt normally do. having eaten everything we had prior to our beach trip, we went to the get our normal groceries to find madness at the stores, so we bought our normal rations plus more in case this is an extended thing. im an eagle scout, so convincing me to not be prepared for anything isnt going to get you far.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I flunked outta cub scouts. This could be my problem...

 

[TheStateUofMS]

The biggest lies by far have come from China (covering it up, blaming on US, etc) and the WHO (covering up for China, saying China has been transparent, saying in early Jan "no evidence of human-to-human transmission, etc).

 

[KentuckyDawg13]

See Drumpf

 

[ezsoil]

Hoarding = buying way more than you normally buy because you are afraid of a virus.

well I guess I'm fortunate, I'm in the Houston area and we haven't been hit very hard. I had just bought my TP at Costco weeks ago for my vacation homes so I was alright. For the most part the shelves have been stocked in all the Walmart's and Kroger ...I've had enough meat to last for two weeks..but I still go every few days to get fresh fruits and vegetables..yesterday was the first day I saw a significant amount of items out at multiple stores...

 

[Dawg1976]

The problem with going in weekly is you are increasing your chances of catching the virus over someone who shops every 2-3 weeks. I've always been a twice a week shopper as I never cared to stock up but now I have a 2-3 week supply. If I'm a hoarder so be it. People like me have contributed to it to some extent but the problem are the extreme hoarders. They have extra freezers in their garage and have stocked all those up.

 

[dog12]

The biggest lies by far have come from China (covering it up, blaming on US, etc) and the WHO (covering up for China, saying China has been transparent, saying in early Jan "no evidence of human-to-human transmission, etc).

In addition to the initial coverup and the subsequent lies about the virus beginning in America, let's not forget about the Communist government of China arresting and silencing whistleblowers whom tried to get out warnings about the virus, including the Chinese doctor in Wuhan that ended up dying.

 

[RocketDawg]

Well, at least that's related to the appropriate subject as opposed to some of the other things.

 

[WutheringDawg]

I think the longer this lasts and the more people realize supply chains aren’t breaking down, the hoarding will subside. I went to Kroger on Saturday morning around 10:00 in midst of another flurry of shutdown rumors and their shelves were pretty much full.

 

[mstateglfr]

The problem with going in weekly is you are increasing your chances of catching the virus over someone who shops every 2-3 weeks. I've always been a twice a week shopper as I never cared to stock up but now I have a 2-3 week supply. If I'm a hoarder so be it. People like me have contributed to it to some extent but the problem are the extreme hoarders. They have extra freezers in their garage and have stocked all those up.

Is it canned and frozen fruits and veggies only then?
Makes sense if absolutely necessary, but getting fresh produce(that hasn't been sneezed on by dbag kids) is kinda sorta pretty good.

 

[bulldogcountry1]

We did a Kroger click list tonight. Other than milk, we didn’t really ask for staple items. We only got 16 items out of about 50, including a single banana.