Mike Leach Programs before and after

SheltonChoked · Jan 13, 2020

There has been much discussion about the Air Raid Fit to MSU. I was/am curious to how well Leach's system will fit to the MSU talent. So I decided to look at where he has been and wht he walked into telent wise and the preivious offenses, and how fast it changed.

Kentucky 1996

Team Stats

		Passing	Rushing
Split	G	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	TD	Att	Yds	Avg	TD
Offense	11	11.5	23.7	48.3	118.0	0.6	39.1	99.8	2.6	0.8
Defense	11	15.6	28.1	55.7	202.0	1.3	38.4	151.5	4.0	1.9
Difference		-4.1	-4.4	-7.4	-84.0	-0.7	+0.7	-51.7	-1.4	-1.1

Passing

	Passing
Rk	Player	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	TD	Int	Rate
1	Billy Jack Haskins	93	175	53.1	967	5.5	4.8	5	5	103.3
2	Tim Couch	32	84	38.1	276	3.3	3.0	1	1	67.2
3	Derick Logan	1	1	100.0	55	55.0	75.0	1	0	892.0
4	Kevin Coleman	0	1	0.0	0	0.0	-45.0	0	1	-200.0

Rushing & Receiving

	Rushing	Receiving	Scrimmage
Rk	Player	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	TD
1	Derick Logan	190	700	3.7	5	12	63	5.3	0	202	763	3.8	5
2	Billy Jack Haskins	84	23	0.3	2					84	23	0.3	2
3	Ray McLaurin	74	209	2.8	1	5	3	0.6	0	79	212	2.7	1
4	Michael Daies	27	98	3.6	0	3	17	5.7	0	30	115	3.8	0
5	Tim Couch	24	-26	-1.1	0					24	-26	-1.1	0
6	Anthony White	17	36	2.1	0	1	16	16.0	0	18	52	2.9	0
7	Lee Wesley	5	12	2.4	1					5	12	2.4	1
8	Jimmy Haley	4	6	1.5	0					4	6	1.5	0
9	Quentin McCord	2	18	9.0	0	12	122	10.2	0	14	140	10.0	0
10	Michael Woodfork	2	4	2.0	0					2	4	2.0	0
11	Craig Yeast	1	18	18.0	0	26	378	14.5	2	27	396	14.7	2
12	Isaac Curtis III					22	188	8.5	2	22	188	8.5	2
13	Norman Mason					14	173	12.4	3	14	173	12.4	3
14	Chad Spencer					10	134	13.4	0	10	134	13.4	0
15	Kevin Coleman					7	73	10.4	0	7	73	10.4	0
16	Jaysuma Simms					5	52	10.4	0	5	52	10.4	0
17	Kio Sanford					5	51	10.2	0	5	51	10.2	0
18	Harold Dennis					4	28	7.0	0	4	28	7.0	0

Before Leach

53% completions for 1298 yards

Top 2 pass catchers have
26 for 378
22 for 188

1997 Kentucky

Team Stats

		Passing	Rushing
Split	G	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	TD	Att	Yds	Avg	TD
Offense	11	34.0	51.1	66.5	365.4	3.4	28.5	108.6	3.8	0.7
Defense	11	16.2	28.3	57.2	221.5	2.0	38.3	170.8	4.5	2.1
Difference		+17.8	+22.8	+9.3	+143.9	+1.4	-9.8	-62.2	-0.7	-1.4

Passing

	Passing
Rk	Player	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	TD	Int	Rate
1	Tim Couch	363	547	66.4	3884	7.1	6.9	37	19	141.4
2	Dusty Bonner	10	14	71.4	114	8.1	8.1	0	0	139.8
3	A.J. Simon	1	1	100.0	21	21.0	21.0	0	0	276.4

Rushing & Receiving

	Rushing	Receiving	Scrimmage
Rk	Player	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	TD
1	Anthony White	129	723	5.6	4	59	453	7.7	4	188	1176	6.3	8
2	Derek Homer	88	502	5.7	1	31	364	11.7	2	119	866	7.3	3
3	Tim Couch	66	-125	-1.9	3					66	-125	-1.9	3
4	Kenneth Grant	21	107	5.1	0					21	107	5.1	0
5	A.J. Simon	3	10	3.3	0	1	1	1.0	0	4	11	2.8	0
6	Dusty Bonner	2	-2	-1.0	0					2	-2	-1.0	0
7	Craig Yeast	1	14	14.0	0	73	873	12.0	10	74	887	12.0	10
8	Wendell Childs	1	9	9.0	0					1	9	9.0	0
9	Jimmy Carter	1	0	0.0	0					1	0	0.0	0
10	Kevin Coleman					52	621	11.9	8	52	621	11.9	8
11	Kio Sanford					36	516	14.3	5	36	516	14.3	5
12	Jimmy Robinson					35	366	10.5	2	35	366	10.5	2
13	Lance Mickelsen					31	377	12.2	6	31	377	12.2	6
14	Jimmy Haley					24	195	8.1	0	24	195	8.1	0
15	James Whalen					7	66	9.4	0	7	66	9.4	0
16	Marvin Love					6	36	6.0	0	6	36	6.0	0
17	Garry Davis					5	54	10.8	0	5	54	10.8	0
18	Darrin Clark					5	25	5.0	0	5	25	5.0	0
19	Jermaine White					4	25	6.3	0	4	25	6.3	0
20	Mitt Crowe					3	18	6.0	0	3	18	6.0	0
21	Jeff Zurcher					1	20	20.0	0	1	20	20.0	0
22	Tyler Siddens					1	9	9.0	0	1	9	9.0	0

After Leach:

66.5% for 4,019 yards

7 Players caught more than 27 passes

The 26 catch 378 yard WR? Caught 73 passes for 873 yards.

Texas Tech 1999

		Passing	Rushing
Split	G	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	TD	Att	Yds	Avg	TD
Offense	11	11.8	24.5	48.1	175.4	1.2	42.4	149.5	3.5	1.5

Passing

	Passing
Rk	Player	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	TD	Int	Rate
1	Rob Peters	105	211	49.8	1437	6.8	5.3	9	11	110.6
2	Kliff Kingsbury	25	57	43.9	492	8.6	9.2	4	1	136

Rushing & Receiving

	Rushing	Receiving	Scrimmage
Rk	Player	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	TD
1	Sammy Morris	140	562	4.0	3	23	386	16.8	2	163	948	5.8	5
2	Shaud Williams	112	658	5.9	7	6	54	9.0	0	118	712	6.0	7
3	Rob Peters	68	23	0.3	2					68	23	0.3	2
4	James Easterling	63	263	4.2	2	2	17	8.5	0	65	280	4.3	2
5	Rickey Hunter	28	88	3.1	1	1	13	13.0	0	29	101	3.5	1
6	Kliff Kingsbury	27	-23	-0.9	1					27	-23	-0.9	1
7	Ricky Williams	13	33	2.5	1					13	33	2.5	1
8	Toby Shain	6	28	4.7	0					6	28	4.7	0
9	Derek Dorris	1	22	22.0	0	19	285	15.0	1	20	307	15.4	1
10	Kyle Allamon	1	3	3.0	0	6	133	22.2	1	7	136	19.4	1
11	Tim Baker					22	370	16.8	2	22	370	16.8	2
12	Dee Jackson					19	165	8.7	2	19	165	8.7	2
13	Darrell Jones					16	234	14.6	5	16	234	14.6	5
14	Tim Winn					7	177	25.3	0	7	177	25.3	0
15	Rudy Renda					4	24	6.0	0	4	24	6.0	0
16	King Scovell					3	57	19.0	0	3	57	19.0	0
17	David Nichol					1	8	8.0	0	1	8	8.0	0
18	Brien Burchett					1	6	6.0	0	1	6	6.0	0

Texas Tech 2000

Team Stats

		Passing	Rushing	Total Offense	First Downs	Penalties	Turnovers
Split	G	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	TD	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	Pass	Rush	Pen	Tot	No.	Yds	Fum	Int	Tot
Offense	12	31.0	51.1	60.7	295.7	1.8	25.4	66.9	2.6	0.8	76.5	362.6	4.7	12.0	5.8	2.8	20.6	9.4	76.6	0.4	1.5	1.9
Defense	12	14.8	28.6	51.6	164.1	0.6	41.3	156.6	3.8	1.7	69.8	320.7	4.6	8.0	9.1	1.7	18.8	8.3	77.3	1.2	1.3	2.4
Difference		+16.2	+22.5	+9.1	+131.6	+1.2	-15.9	-89.7	-1.2	-0.9	+6.7	+41.9	+0.1	+4.0	-3.3	+1.1	+1.8	+1.1	-0.7	-0.8	+0.2	-0.5

Passing

	Passing
Rk	Player	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	TD	Int	Rate
1	Kliff Kingsbury	362	585	61.9	3418	5.8	5.3	21	17	117.0
2	B.J. Symons	8	25	32.0	56	2.2	2.2	0	0	50.8
3	Mickey Peters	3	3	100.0	80	26.7	26.7	0	0	324.0
4	Eric Rosiles	0	1	0.0	0	0.0	-45.0	0	1	-200.0

Rushing & Receiving

	Rushing	Receiving	Scrimmage
Rk	Player	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	TD
1	Ricky Williams	127	421	3.3	5	52	228	4.4	2	179	649	3.6	7
2	Kliff Kingsbury	78	19	0.2	2					78	19	0.2	2
3	Shaud Williams	55	223	4.1	2	48	299	6.2	0	103	522	5.1	2
4	Foy Munlin	13	55	4.2	0	2	1	0.5	0	15	56	3.7	0
5	James Easterling	9	37	4.1	0	7	23	3.3	0	16	60	3.8	0
6	Wes Welker	6	72	12.0	1	26	334	12.8	0	32	406	12.7	1
7	B.J. Symons	3	12	4.0	0					3	12	4.0	0
8	Rickey Hunter	3	10	3.3	0					3	10	3.3	0
9	Ryan Aycock	1	19	19.0	0					1	19	19.0	0
10	Clinton Greathouse	1	3	3.0	0					1	3	3.0	0
11	Mickey Peters	1	2	2.0	0	3	25	8.3	0	4	27	6.8	0
12	Tim Baker					69	765	11.1	7	69	765	11.1	7
13	Derek Dorris					56	574	10.3	9	56	574	10.3	9
14	Carlos Francis					41	519	12.7	2	41	519	12.7	2
15	Darrell Jones					27	361	13.4	1	27	361	13.4	1
16	King Scovell					17	213	12.5	0	17	213	12.5	0
17	Cole Roberts					12	130	10.8	0	12	130	10.8	0
18	Jamall Broussard					10	56	5.6	0	10	56	5.6	0
19	Dee Jackson					3	26	8.7	0	3	26	8.7	0

At Tech. The Year before Leach.

They completed 48% of their passes for 1437 yards .

Leading pass catcher was the tailback with 23 catches,.
Leading Receiver had 22 catches for 370 yards

Look at next year under Leach....

Passing went to 62% and 3418 yards.

7 players caught more than 23 passes.

And that 22 catch 370 yard Receiver? Caught 69 passes for 765 yards.
A 3* True Freshman caught 41 passes for 519 yards

SheltonChoked · Jan 13, 2020

MSU 2019 Stats for Reference

[FONT=&quot][h=2]Team Stats[/h]

		Passing	Rushing	Total Offense	First Downs	Penalties	Turnovers
Split	G	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	TD	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	Pass	Rush	Pen	Tot	No.	Yds	Fum	Int	Tot
Offense	13	14.3	24.2	59.0	179.5	1.5	40.7	220.6	5.4	2.1	64.9	400.1	6.2	8.6	11.2	1.8	21.5	5.5	44.5	1.0	0.8	1.8
Defense	13	17.2	28.3	60.9	246.8	1.7	34.9	152.5	4.4	1.9	63.2	399.3	6.3	10.5	8.3	1.5	20.3	4.9	42.9	1.1	0.8	1.8
Difference		-2.9	-4.1	-1.9	-67.3	-0.2	+5.8	+68.1	+1.0	+0.2	+1.7	+0.8	-0.1	-1.9	+2.9	+0.3	+1.2	+0.6	+1.6	-0.1	0.0	0.0

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[FONT=&quot][h=2]Passing[/h]

	Passing
Rk	Player	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	TD	Int	Rate
1	Tommy Stevens	97	161	60.2	1155	7.2	7.1	11	5	136.8
2	Garrett Shrader	88	153	57.5	1170	7.6	7.2	8	5	132.5
3	Logan Burnett	1	1	100.0	8	8.0	8.0	0	0	167.2

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[FONT=&quot][h=2]Rushing & Receiving[/h]

	Rushing	Receiving	Scrimmage
Rk	Player	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	TD
1	Kylin Hill	242	1350	5.6	10	18	180	10.0	1	260	1530	5.9	11
2	Garrett Shrader	113	587	5.2	6					113	587	5.2	6
3	Tommy Stevens	83	381	4.6	4					83	381	4.6	4
4	Nick Gibson	55	433	7.9	6	4	34	8.5	0	59	467	7.9	6
5	Lee Witherspoon	22	101	4.6	1	4	37	9.3	0	26	138	5.3	1
6	Isaiah Zuber	3	4	1.3	0	14	211	15.1	2	17	215	12.6	2
7	Malik Dear	3	4	1.3	0	3	36	12.0	0	6	40	6.7	0
8	JaVonta Payton	1	11	11.0	0	9	147	16.3	0	10	158	15.8	0
9	Deddrick Thomas	1	5	5.0	0	29	383	13.2	2	30	388	12.9	2
10	Tucker Day	1	4	4.0	0					1	4	4.0	0
11	Stephen Guidry					30	387	12.9	5	30	387	12.9	5
12	Osirus Mitchell					29	430	14.8	6	29	430	14.8	6
13	Farrod Green					21	257	12.2	1	21	257	12.2	1
14	Austin Williams					11	119	10.8	2	11	119	10.8	2
15	Geor'Quarius Spivey					3	32	10.7	0	3	32	10.7	0
16	Brad Cumbest					2	16	8.0	0	2	16	8.0	0
17	Keytaon Thompson					1	8	8.0	0	1	8	8.0	0
18	Cameron Gardner					1	7	7.0	0	1	7	7.0	0
19	Robert Rivers					1	5	5.0	0	1	5	5.0	0
20	Dontea Jones		-1			6	44	7.3	0	6	43	7.2	0

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The Fatboy · Jan 13, 2020

Unfortunately mobile view is terrible for spreadsheet stats. Imma need your Cliff's notes to understand all this.

Nunya.sixpack · Jan 13, 2020

Fatboy said:
Unfortunately mobile view is terrible for spreadsheet stats. Imma need your Cliff's notes to understand all this.

marked yardage improvement in the passing games at UK and TT. 1500 or so yards to 4000 yards.

SheltonChoked · Jan 13, 2020

Fatboy said:
Unfortunately mobile view is terrible for spreadsheet stats. Imma need your Cliff's notes to understand all this.

TL

R

At UK and TTech, before Leach, the QB's WR had worse stats than MSU's QB's and WR's.

messageboardsuperhero · Jan 13, 2020

Fatboy said:
Unfortunately mobile view is terrible for spreadsheet stats. Imma need your Cliff's notes to understand all this.

Short answer- our passing game sucked last year, but Kentucky and Texas Tech were even more anemic than us before Leach took over those offenses. More than doubled the production at both places while also making them more efficient.

mount lefroy · Jan 13, 2020

I couldn't see it but how did total offensive yards change?I have no doubt the distribution of yardage moved to passing, but a yard gained is just a yard gained.

FQDawg · Jan 13, 2020

Here's the breakdown without the charts. I also added Washington State info. Looks like they actually took a step back in Leach's first year, at least numerically, but I don't know any context there.

Kentucky 1996 - Before Leach
53% completions for 1298 yards

Top 2 pass catchers have
26 for 378
22 for 188

1997 Kentucky - With Leach
66.5% for 4,019 yards

7 Players caught more than 27 passes

The 26 catch 378 yard WR? Caught 73 passes for 873 yards.

Texas Tech 1999 - Before Leach
They completed 48% of their passes for 1437 yards.

Leading pass catcher was the tailback with 23 catches.
Leading Receiver had 22 catches for 370 yards

Texas Tech 2000 - With Leach
Passing went to 62% and 3418 yards.

7 players caught more than 23 passes.

And that 22 catch 370 yard Receiver? Caught 69 passes for 765 yards.
A 3* True Freshman caught 41 passes for 519 yards

Washington State 2011 - Before Leach
Five different guys threw passes for 3,867 total yards. Combined for 30 TDs and 12 INTs and a 60.5 completion percentage.
Top QB was 208-341 for 2,584 yards, 19 TDs and 8 INTs

Five players caught 28 or more passes.
Top receiver, Marquess Wilson, caught 82 passes for 1,388 yards and 12 TDs

Washington State 2012 - With Leach
Two different QBs combined for 3,965 yards with 23 TDs and 21 INTs with a 58.2 completion percentage
Jeff Tuel was 211-332 for 2,987 yards, 8 TDs and 8 INTs
Connor Halliday was 152-291 for 1,878 yards, 15 TDs and 13 INTs.

Seven players caught 30 or more passes
Top receiver was again Marquess Wilson. He caught 52 passes for 813 yards and 5 TDs

archdog · Jan 13, 2020

Can you give us a projected stats for 2020 based on the average increase from both KY, TT, and WSU?

#ShowOff · Jan 13, 2020

I really wish we had WR Zuber another year for Leach's offense.

SheltonChoked · Jan 13, 2020

archdog said:
Can you give us a projected stats for 2020 based on the average increase from both KY, TT, and WSU?

UK ratio for MSU 2020

Shrader
72.1% passing
7225 Yards

Osirus
81 catches
993 yards

TTU ratio for MSU 2020

Shrader
74.3% passing
5551 Yards

Osirus
90 catches
889 yards

Philly Dawg · Jan 13, 2020

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