Arrogant Dak on Twitter...

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

https://twitter.com/ArrogantDak/status/1169042441929920517


Jared Goff gets an extension.
Me walking into Jerry’s office:

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7:20 PM · Sep 3, 2019

 

[MarkDallas]

People, it's not hard to imbed a tweet.


[Tweet]1169042441929920517[/Tweet]

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Doesn’t work with Safari.

 

[DancingRabbit]

Wait wut? Apple users don't get the tweety bird button?

 

[PineGroveBully]

If you're gonna be the resident hall monitor why don't you start by calling out people who can't reply for **** on here.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

I hope Dak doesn't get paid like a top 10 QB bc he's not one. Zeke is one of the top RBs in the league. Dallas really had no choice. Dak has intangibles you can't teach, but skill wise, they could draft a QB like Dak or go find one through free agency who has the same skill set. Again, Dak's intangibles are rare, but his skill set to this point is not.

He probably has the worst pocket awareness in the league among starting QBs. That might can be taught. We'll see. I know he's working on it.

 

[Diggin Out Yo Wife]

I hope Dak doesn't get paid like a top 10 QB bc he's not one. Zeke is one of the top RBs in the league. Dallas really had no choice. Dak has intangibles you can't teach, but skill wise, they could draft a QB like Dak or go find one through free agency who has the same skill set. Again, Dak's intangibles are rare, but his skill set to this point is not.

He probably has the worst pocket awareness in the league among starting QBs. That might can be taught. We'll see. I know he's working on it.

Who cares. That might be the most awful take from a State fan I've ever seen on this board.

Dak Prescott getting paid means nothing but good things for MSU.

 

[MedDawg]

I hope Dak doesn't get paid like a top 10 QB bc he's not one. Zeke is one of the top RBs in the league. Dallas really had no choice. Dak has intangibles you can't teach, but skill wise, they could draft a QB like Dak or go find one through free agency who has the same skill set. Again, Dak's intangibles are rare, but his skill set to this point is not.

He probably has the worst pocket awareness in the league among starting QBs. That might can be taught. We'll see. I know he's working on it.

Yeah, it's easy to get a rookie-of-the-year QB and the second winningest QB over the past 3 years. You simply draft a QB that was good in college.

 

[patdog]

With a QB, it's the intangibles that matter. There's nothing really special about Tom Brady's skill set, but he's the GOAT because of the intangibles. I do agree Dak needs to work on his pocket awareness. But he's definitely at least arguably a top 10 QB.

 

[Go Budaw]

I hope Dak doesn't get paid like a top 10 QB bc he's not one. Zeke is one of the top RBs in the league. Dallas really had no choice. Dak has intangibles you can't teach, but skill wise, they could draft a QB like Dak or go find one through free agency who has the same skill set. Again, Dak's intangibles are rare, but his skill set to this point is not.

He probably has the worst pocket awareness in the league among starting QBs. That might can be taught. We'll see. I know he's working on it.

Man, don’t even know where to start with this one. Dallas had no choice? They had the same choice the Chargers had with Melvin Gordon. The same choice the Steelers had with LeVeon Bell. But they chose to cave.

And the Dak comments are so mind numbingly stupid that I am not even going to attempt to unpack them.

 

[dawgstudent]

I hope he's paid the highest of any QB ever for eternity.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Yeah maybe that's why I go so many downvotes. I'm not thinking as a fan. I'm thinking in terms of logic. LMAO

 

[TheStateUofMS]

There's a lot that's impressive from TB's skill set including accuracy. It used to be arm strength. Obviously he's never been a "super athlete," but he's got a perfect skill set to be an awesome NFL QB and he's probably the best of all time.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Man, don’t even know where to start with this one. Dallas had no choice? They had the same choice the Chargers had with Melvin Gordon. The same choice the Steelers had with LeVeon Bell. But they chose to cave.

And the Dak comments are so mind numbingly stupid that I am not even going to attempt to unpack them.

I wish you would unpack them bc what's so off about what I said about Dak?

1) Dak is not a top 10 NFL QB. You think he's in the top 10?
2) He has intangibles you can't teach. I doubt you have an argument there
3) Dak has poor pocket awareness. Are you going to argue that too?

Zeke is a top 2 or 3 RB in the league. That's why they had no choice. Did you see how Dak and the team played without Zeke? Huge difference when they have Zeke.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Bigger picture, I want these salaries to get put in check.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

It works but it jumbles everything around into a mess.

 

[Cow College]

I wish you would unpack them bc what's so off about what I said about Dak?

1) Dak is not a top 10 NFL QB. You think he's in the top 10?
2) He has intangibles you can't teach. I doubt you have an argument there
3) Dak has poor pocket awareness. Are you going to argue that too?

Zeke is a top 2 or 3 RB in the league. That's why they had no choice. Did you see how Dak and the team played without Zeke? Huge difference when they have Zeke.

It’s easier to find a replacement RB than a replacement QB so they are not the same. Even more so a RB that can’t stay on the field because of off the field issues. Dak is a top 5 young QB who has been paid well below his worth for years. If Dallas does not pay him I guarantee someone else will and make the Cowboys look silly when they they have Ryan Fitzpatrick handing off to Zeke until he is suspended again

 

[AlCoDog]

Who are 10 better? Maholmes, Brady, Rodgers, Brees. Give me 6 more. Better yet, give me one college guy with a “better skill set” you think they could draft and plug in and not miss a beat.

I think Dak is going to make a lot of folks look stupid this year. Mostly Cowboys fans on twitter.

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

Bigger picture, I want these salaries to get put in check.

Why? The money has to go somewhere. Why shouldn't a little more go to the players? Because you're jealous? Cool outlook man. Bet you are a real hit at parties.

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

Logic. Yeah man. that's it. You're too logical.****

Yeah maybe that's why I go so many downvotes. I'm not thinking as a fan. I'm thinking in terms of logic. LMAO

 

[Drebin]

Yeah maybe that's why I go so many downvotes. I'm not thinking as a fan. I'm thinking in terms of logic. LMAO

It’s not logical. He’s a top 10 QB by pretty much any meaningful measure. If you want to argue he’s not top 5, that’s a little more reasonable.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Dak is unquestionably a top 10 QB right now, with potential to be top 5 or better during his 2nd contract.

He's 2nd in wins, and 538 currently has him 9th, and that's putting him behind Wentz, which I wouldn't agree with:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-nfl-predictions/quarterbacks/

 

[StillTbonewannabe]

I wish you would unpack them bc what's so off about what I said about Dak?

1) Dak is not a top 10 NFL QB. You think he's in the top 10?
2) He has intangibles you can't teach. I doubt you have an argument there
3) Dak has poor pocket awareness. Are you going to argue that too?

Zeke is a top 2 or 3 RB in the league. That's why they had no choice. Did you see how Dak and the team played without Zeke? Huge difference when they have Zeke.

Where are you getting this? He is one of the better QB scramblers in the league and last year had one of the highest 4th quarter QBRs in the league. There are a ton of metrics that would put Dak in the top 10 QBs in the league but the bottom line is: you are more likely to get a Jameis Winston than Wentz or Goff when you draft a QB. Dak's stats are close or better than Goff and Wentz and that was with a **** playcaller in Linehan who still thinks having a 90s offense is a good idea.

Dak is pretty damn accurate, takes care of the ball, is a great motivator and leader, and is pretty damn clutch in the 4th quarter. All of those things are extremely valuable in a NFL QB.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Here's 15 that are for sure better:
Mahomes
Roethlisberger
Matt Ryan
Jared Goff
Aaron Rogers
Tom Brady
Phillip Rivers
Kirk Cuousins
Deshaun Watson
Drew Brees
Matthew Stafford
Russell Wilson
Cam Newton
Carson Wentz
Alex Smith

You could argue he's about as good as:
Nick Foles
Jimmy Garoppolo
Tyrod Taylor
Joe Flacco
Baker Mayfield
Derek Carr

Andrew Luck just retired too and he was for sure better.....yet Dak wanted to make more than Luck??

ETA:
A guy they could draft with a better skill set....are we talking a guy who would likely be in the 4th round or overall better skill set, because that one is easy: Trevor Lawrence, Tua, Jalen Hurts, Sam Ehlinger

 

[TheStateUofMS]

He's got a great defense and a great running game man. Dak isn't a QB like Aaron Rogers, Tom Brady or Big Ben or Deshaun who is going to win you a game by himself. He hasn't proven that yet.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

My bad. I didn't know this was only a thread where homerism analysis was allowed.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

Can you explain your logic?

Here's 15 that are for sure better:
Mahomes
Roethlisberger
Matt Ryan
Jared Goff
Aaron Rogers
Tom Brady
Phillip Rivers
Kirk Cuousins
Deshaun Watson
Drew Brees
Matthew Stafford
Russell Wilson
Cam Newton
Carson Wentz
Alex Smith

You could argue he's about as good as:
Nick Foles
Jimmy Garoppolo
Tyrod Taylor
Joe Flacco
Baker Mayfield
Derek Carr

Andrew Luck just retired too and he was for sure better.....yet Dak wanted to make more than Luck??

ETA:
A guy they could draft with a better skill set....are we talking a guy who would likely be in the 4th round or overall better skill set, because that one is easy: Trevor Lawrence, Tua, Jalen Hurts, Sam Ehlinger

I’m not following it. Also, are you completely ignoring the important part of actually being cleared medically to go into the game?

ETA: removed my hyperbole. Just trying to keep the conversation more straight forward.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Here's 15 that are for sure better:
Mahomes Yes
Roethlisberger Yes
Matt Ryan Yes
Jared Goff No
Aaron Rogers Yes
Tom Brady Obviously
Phillip Rivers No
Kirk Cuousins No
Deshaun Watson Could potentially be one day, but not now
Drew Brees Yes
Matthew Stafford No
Russell Wilson Maybe
Cam Newton Not anymore
Carson Wentz Maybe if he could stay healthy
Alex Smith Is he even an roster this year?

You could argue he's about as good as: Definitely no on all of these
Nick Foles
Jimmy Garoppolo
Tyrod Taylor
Joe Flacco
Baker Mayfield
Derek Carr

Andrew Luck just retired too and he was for sure better.....yet Dak wanted to make more than Luck??

No

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Where are you getting this? He is one of the better QB scramblers in the league and last year had one of the highest 4th quarter QBRs in the league. There are a ton of metrics that would put Dak in the top 10 QBs in the league but the bottom line is: you are more likely to get a Jameis Winston than Wentz or Goff when you draft a QB. Dak's stats are close or better than Goff and Wentz and that was with a **** playcaller in Linehan who still thinks having a 90s offense is a good idea.

Dak is pretty damn accurate, takes care of the ball, is a great motivator and leader, and is pretty damn clutch in the 4th quarter. All of those things are extremely valuable in a NFL QB.

Because I watched Dak a lot and saw him get sacked and/or strip sacked a lot last year holding on to the ball too long. Talk to any TRUE Dallas fan and they'll tell you he holds on to the ball way to long and doesn't have good pocket awareness...at least not yet. As I said in this thread he may develop though. Hopefully he does. someone else in this thread said they same thing.
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[campshelbydog842003]

There is no way that any GM out there would take Kirk Cousins or Alex Smith over Dak. That is absolutely insane, and yes I know the numbers of the guys that have to throw it a million times a game because they are a pass first offense usually playing from behind all game. Take a look at Dak’s numbers once he got a real wide receiver halfway through last year (and that was in a run first offense). He was throwing to garbage last year before Cooper came along. Zeke coming back also helped lessen the load. He’s arguably better than half of the ones on your list, but the 2 I mentioned are just you being obtuse.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Yeah, it's easy to get a rookie-of-the-year QB and the second winningest QB over the past 3 years. You simply draft a QB that was good in college.

WTF are you even talking bout? I didn't say it was "easy to get rookie of the year" or "only draft a QB who's good in college."

Even great players have weaknesses.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

I believe his fumbles lost were on par with everyone else per hit taken. Again, the line was trash and had no receivers. Did you watch any other QB’s or just Dak’s?

 

[MaroonBelle]

Bigger picture, I want these salaries to get put in check.

Why? In a couple years with the new CBA the salaries are going to explode because the players ARE going to demand a bigger piece of the NFL pie so the salary cap is gonna skyrocket and Dak's and Zeke's and any other one that gets done now are going to look like a pittance.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

What is there to elaborate on? Alex Smith isn't healthy right now, but he's a better QB when healthy. Remove him from the list and I still gave 14 that are better and some others are in the same neighborhood. 2 guys have Super Bowl rings on the second list.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Oh man the "you're great at parties line," haha.


I'm super jealous yeah that's it.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

Can you please explain what metric you use to determine they are better than Dak? Wins? Pet obedience? Total TD’s? Playoff wins? Jersey color?

 

[TheStateUofMS]

It’s not logical. He’s a top 10 QB by pretty much any meaningful measure. If you want to argue he’s not top 5, that’s a little more reasonable.

I'm not close minded. Of course it's up for debate whether he's a top 10 QB or not. I listed 15 that I think are better, so of course there's wiggle room. Is he #12 or is he number #8? Not that much of a difference.

The whole point is he's certainly not the #1 QB in the league, so he shouldn't be paid like it. He's not a top 5 QB in the league, so he shouldn't be paid like that either. He's arguably a top 10 QB, so he should be paid in that range.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Dak's stats and rankings last year compared to other QBs. Just a few of them..

Yards: 3,885 (#15)
TDs: 22 (#16, Baker Mayfield threw more TDs than Dak)
Comp %: 67.7% (#10)
Sacked: 56 (#2 in the league in a bad way; only Cousins was sacked more)
Int: 8 (tied for 7 for folks who started a whole year)
QBR: 56.2 (#18)
QB rating: 96.9 (#14)
8)
Yards per attempt: 7.4yds (#19)

As I said all along, he's got the intangibles that don't show up on the stat sheet and they certainly mean alot, but with average numbers and near top of the league for intangibles, he's not a top 5 but he is arguably a top 10 QB in the league but it's not a slam dunk.

I'll agree he should be paid like a top 10, but closer to 10 and certainly not top 5 and Dak being paid like the #1 QB or player in the league makes ZERO sense.

 

[11thEagleFan]

He’s not a top 5 quarterback. I would take Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger, Mahomes, Matt Ryan, Rivers, and Russell Wilson over him. But top 10? Obviously. Also, he’s gonna be top 5 in a couple years when 2-3 of those guys retire and/or production drops off with age. Never thought I’d see the day when some State fans argued that Dak isn’t a top 10 QB. He’s worth the money. And lol at Kirk Cousins being better.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

I just gave a bunch of stats in a post below, but I'm basing my opinion on watching him play alot and common knowledge of what other QBs stats are. It's not like I'm saying Dak isn't good because he is a good QB, but he's not close to being an elite QB.


How many games has he put the team on his back and won the game like you see Rogers, Brady, Brees, etc do on a regular basis?