Jack picked #118

[Herbert Nenninger]

by the Mets

 

[anon1787432961]

Knock em out Jack

 

[jack daniels dog]

For those of us that don’t keep up, where would that place him starting out? Single A, double a,???!

 

[PineGroveBully]

AA is Biloxi, I think A is out west

 

[PineGroveBully]

A is in Grand Chute, WI, their rookie ball affiliate is in Colorado Springs

 

[Arthur2478]

AA is Biloxi, I think A is out west

Jake was drafted by the Mets. Biloxi is the Brewers AA club.

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

He gone.

 

[PineGroveBully]

You are correct, I still had the Brewers on the brain

 

[11thEagleFan]

I see where the slot value for that pick is $487,000. How does it work when the draftee is a senior? Does the club offer anywhere close to that?

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

I'll be shocked if he gets anything above $25k. Seniors tend to get enough money to buy a late model used car and that's it.

 

[patdog]

I think he could now hold out for at least half the $487,000 slot value or the Mets would lose their compensatory pick if he didn't sign. So, I bet if he wanted to play hardball, he could probably get at least $243,500.

 

[Shamoan]

It’s a huge improvement in draft status from last year to this and 4th round is pretty damn good as the Mets are showing serious interest. Mets show a belief in his ability, but the wallet will take a hit for Jake. Either way, great day for Jake and his future in baseball.

 

[11thEagleFan]

Yeah a couple years ago USM had a senior drafted in the 8th or 9th round by the Yankees and he got $10,000. Still, a 4th round pick would be something serious to lose. Maybe they’ll offer Jake something decent. I hate how the seniors get screwed.

 

[Dubs.sixpack]

For those of us that don’t keep up, where would that place him starting out? Single A, double a,???!

He'll more than likely get assigned to short season A ball in Brooklyn. It's a cool stadium on Coney Island. There's a chance he'll play in high A before year end due to his polish.

 

[Dubs.sixpack]

I see where the slot value for that pick is $487,000. How does it work when the draftee is a senior? Does the club offer anywhere close to that?

He won't get anywhere near that and that is why he was selected where he was. The team will take a lot of high projection arms in rounds 10-20 and use the banked money to talk some HS kids into skipping college. Don't be surprised if the Smithville kid winds up being tied to this. Also remember this ownership group is recouping big losses from Madoff. They aren't paying up amateurs.

 

[PreacherDog]

For those of us that don’t keep up, where would that place him starting out? Single A, double a,???!

Most draft players go to rookie league and thrn possibly low A or high A depending how they do. Very rare for a drafted player to make AA.

 

[Dubs.sixpack]

He will be in the low 5 figures. The draft doesn't work like it used to.

 

[WrapItDog]

He'll more than likely get assigned to short season A ball in Brooklyn. It's a cool stadium on Coney Island. There's a chance he'll play in high A before year end due to his polish.

Didn't know he was Polish. Lot's of nice Jewish girls around Coney Island**

 

[cowbell88]

Still don’t understand the lack of love for him. I would think fielding ability alone would have gotten him a second round pick. Couple that with being SEC hits leader and it’s gets him a 4th round 118. Something doesn’t add up for me.

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

in 2017, Jason Delay (C, Vanderbilt) was drafted 118. Slot value $450,000, signed with Pirates for $100,000.


Same year Kramer Robertson (SS, LSU) was drafted 124. Slot value $424,800, signed with Cardinals for $150,000. No link to family bio...

 

[MSUDC11]

Still don’t understand the lack of love for him. I would think fielding ability alone would have gotten him a second round pick. Couple that with being SEC hits leader and it’s gets him a 4th round 118. Something doesn’t add up for me.

He brings very little to the table from a power standpoint and doesn’t draw many walks. Love Jake and think he will get to the big leagues eventually, but from a prospect standpoint I understand why there are questions.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

The Majors want OF's to hit HR's

I personally think JAKE will make it regardless.

I don't know what this Jack guy will do.

 

[patdog]

Yeah. He's going to have to learn a LOT of bat discipline if he wants to advance very far in the minors. With his lack of power, he's going to have to have a good OB% to go anywhere and he would be facing top SEC pitchers every game even at the AA level. I wouldn't bet against him, but I can see why he was a 6th round pick.

 

[Drebin]

Still don’t understand the lack of love for him. I would think fielding ability alone would have gotten him a second round pick. Couple that with being SEC hits leader and it’s gets him a 4th round 118. Something doesn’t add up for me.

His fielding ability is good by SEC baseball standards. It's probably closer to average by pro ball CF standards.

His ticket to the show will be his bat if he can learn some plate discipline.

 

[anonymous.sixpack]

Yeah. He's going to have to learn a LOT of bat discipline if he wants to advance very far in the minors. With his lack of power, he's going to have to have a good OB% to go anywhere and he would be facing top SEC pitchers every game even at the AA level. I wouldn't bet against him, but I can see why he was a 6th round pick.

Even if he was a 6th round pick - which he wasn’t - that would still be very good by pro baseball standards.

 

[Shamoan]

Simply put, his lack of power and willingness to swing (mostly successfully) outside the strike zone hurt him a bit. Major League Baseball has become home-run drunk, but that is today’s game.

 

[PineGroveBully]

I think y'all are forgetting that Jake is also a pitcher. So they should double his money.

 

[Bulldogg31]

People cite Jake’s lack of power but he’s at least hit a few home runs in college. Not great but not nearly as low as Adam Frazier’s total of zero.

I believe Frazier has now hit 27 homers in MLB, so it’s possible that coaching and hard work could help Jake develop a little more pop in his bat as well.

 

[HamSammich]

Adam Frazier wasn’t dropping bombs when he was at State either but he’s increased his power as well.

 

[HumpDawgy]

So when do ya'll think he gets the call up to play at Smith Wills?***

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[LexSCDOG]

I do know that their low Class A team is in Columbia, SC, the Columbia Fireflies. So hoping he will be here for a short period of time at the end of the season or early next season. But I would think he might start in higher class A after a good rookie short season wherever that team is .

A is in Grand Chute, WI, their rookie ball affiliate is in Colorado Springs

 

[stateu1]

Adam Frazier wasn’t dropping bombs when he was at State either but he’s increased his power as well.

Frazier also played BBCOR era.

 

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

So when do ya'll think he gets the call up to play at Smith Wills?***

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Well, they say SEC baseball is pretty comparable to AA ball. So, I'm guessing his 1st stop will probably be Smith Wills.

 

[patdog]

SEC baseball is nowhere near comparable to AA ball. Maybe low-A ball.

 

[philduckworth]

Yeah. He's going to have to learn a LOT of bat discipline if he wants to advance very far in the minors. With his lack of power, he's going to have to have a good OB% to go anywhere and he would be facing top SEC pitchers every game even at the AA level. I wouldn't bet against him, but I can see why he was a 6th round pick.

MLB players have such an elite understanding of the strike zone it's incredible. Can you imagine if Jake only swung at strikes? He could be a Brett Butler type player.

 

[patdog]

If I'm pitching to him, he'll never see a strike until he shows me he can work to a 2-0 or 3-1 count.

 

[msubrave]

I've seen it described that a Friday night SEC game between ranked teams is on par with A ball.

 

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

I don't know, I was just going off what I heard Ben McDonald say during an SEC Tournament game.

Edit: I could have misheard him though....

 

[patdog]

What did Ben say? I think it'd be pretty rare that any college game would feature every player who will make it even as far as Class A ball as starters. And few that would start out any higher than that.

 

[PineGroveBully]

I heard the same IttaBena.

Here is where the SEC=AA comparison has merit. No AA teams and SEC teams aren't comparable. But in the SEC most of your Fri-Sat starters are upperclassmen and a majority of them will be drafted fairly highly. Those 2 pitchers ARE comparable to what the top of a AA rotation look like normally in both age and skill. Also most AA rosters may only have 2-4 position players that will ever make the big leagues, which is comparable to what the upper echelon SEC teams have in their position players. There are no guaranteed MLB stars in AA or SEC. So the leagues aren't comparable, but the competition and how it readies one for the next level are.

When JT is right, not many AA teams will have a 1-2 punch any better than Small-Ginn. So if you are an opposing hitter, you will see very comparable "stuff" in both leagues. Likewise if you are a pitcher in either league you are only gonna see a cpl "next level" hitters in opposing lineups. The rest of the players on most AA roster have little chance to reach the pro's they are just there to fill out teams for those few real prospects to play with and against.

So, I don't think the AA and SEC are really comparable top to bottom. But as to how they both prepare one for the next level, they're very comparable. Here are a cpl examples to validate it. Michael Wacha pitched in the SEC, less than a year after being drafted he was in the Cardinals rotation. Dakota Hudson was in the big leagues in less than 2 years. I believe both were sent straight to AA after very short stints in rookie ball. I think that is more the point Ben was making, I believe I've heard KP say something of the same ilk.