Remember Carter Stewart?
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Does this mean he will be able to sign a free agent deal instead of going thru the draft and being tied to slot money?
College and studying is not for everyone. He will get his education through life experiences.
For example: how to speak Japanese. A valuable tool.****
For example: how to speak Japanese. A valuable tool.****
Not many 19 year olds are ready to live 7,000 miles from home in a country where you do not speak the language. I hope this kid makes it to the MLB, but things aren’t trending that way.
I’m afraid he will look back 20 years down the line on whoever is giving him advice with a lot of resentment.
I’m afraid he will look back 20 years down the line on whoever is giving him advice with a lot of resentment.
Definitely should have taken the Braves offer, and I said so at the time. The Braves cut that offer for a reason. They would have cut it a lot more than that if they could without losing their compensatory pick. That was more money than he was ever likely to get later. Not many people can say they made a $2,000,000 mistake. But he did.
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For some reason I have the image of The Waterboy where his dad comes in at the end and says they can be like Tiger Woods and his daddy. I don't know if his parents are the type of people trying to retire off of their kid or if he is just trying to find any loophole that he can.
I admittedly don’t understand much about how the whole MLB drafting/signing process works, but if he wasn’t going to accept the Braves’ deal, I’m still a little baffled as to why he seemed to be so adamantly against coming to State. I mean, yeah... school’s not for everyone, but most ball player don’t exactly come to challenge to take thermodynamics. Seems like a big waste of time and money to have done what he did
He was not adamant against coming to State specifically. He was just adamant against coming to any 4-year school because he would have to wait 3 years before making money. MSU was his fall back if he had a severe injury or downgrading of his stock before the draft. Since that didn’t happen, he gambled that he would be able to get his “correct” amount in the 2019 draft. That gamble doesn’t look like its going to pay off, but he’s still going to get paid a decent amount a lot sooner than he would if he was a junior coming out.
Also, he’s currently rated as the #59 overall prospect in 2019, and that slot value is about $1.2 million. So he could theoretically only lose out on about $800k, which isn’t great for him, but is still possibly better than if he waited 3 years (could have gotten injured or generally not been effective and have his stock drop). He could also have a team pay above slot, or draft him higher and pay whatever that slot is and he would be closer to that $2 million he turned down last year.
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Very interesting. If he really got $7 million, that’s a no-brainer decision. I had just assumed he had pursued another fallback in case he doesn’t get drafted where he wants this year, but assumed he would still be able to be drafted. It seems the main thing this does is let him come over as a free agent at any time.
Though precise terms aren’t yet known, Rosenthal indicates that Stewart will be subject to Nippon Professional Baseball’s typical ten-year player-control system. Whether there are any further understandings or agreements regarding his future aren’t known. Stewart was “believed to be seeking” a $7MM guarantee, per Rosenthal. It’s not yet known whether he’ll receive that level of promise from Fukuoka, and in what form (bonus vs. salary) it’ll be paid.
I am guessing that his JC class load was the minimum and was not very challenging compared to a MSU freshman class load. Most JC is easier if you just want to get easy classes.
$7 million per year, someone who is pretty damn smart..
https://sports.yahoo.com/american-draft-prospect-carter-stewart-142105193.html
And he did keep “some” connection to Mississippi State with the Japanese team he joined. It is pronounced 17uokay.****
Not necessarily. Income tax rate over there is almost 56% for ALL income, not gradually bracketed like it is in the US. $3.5 million would turn into about $1.54 million. That would be not too far off from what he turned down from the Braves last year. He still comes out way ahead at $7 million though.
7 million per would've been the highest paid player in the league by far in 2017
I opened this thinking it said DJ Stewart and I was getting pissed. Thankfully I don't read real good.***
Now that the facts are trickling in are you still patting yourself on the back?
Are you studying to become a certified agent?
You are now free to CYA with he has to move to Japan.
One thing, playing baseball in Japan is nothing like playing basketball in Lithuania, Ukraine, or Turkey. Going to Japan probably means he never plays a day in the minors. Go over there and show out and MLB will come find him. Can't think of his name but the current Brewers hitter and pitcher Miles Mikolas both went to Japan and/or South Korea to work on things against what probably amounts to AAAA competition, especially in Japan, and both came back a few years later and were difference makers on solid MLB teams.
plus who knows, maybe Mr. Baseball's chic has a little sister
plus who knows, maybe Mr. Baseball's chic has a little sister
If his goal is to get back to MLB or the minors, that’s not so important. Any team that wants him in the US can pay the transfer fee which is capped at $20 million, but unlikely to approach anything close to that for him. If he struggles but still shows promise, MLB might offer him a pretty good deal if they feel he is worth a 1st round pick or something thereabouts.
Take lessons. Knowing that he or someone in his family probably reads this board and there is a chance that a brother/cousin may also have his baseball chops, respond something like this: "Best of luck to the young man, I hate it didn't work out for him to come to MSU, but I'm sure we'll see him in the majors in a few years."
I didn’t say it was as good as $2M.
I said it was pretty good.
Would you go to Japan and play baseball for 10 years at $154,000 a year after taxes?
I know I would.
#MeLoveYouLongTime
I said it was pretty good.
Would you go to Japan and play baseball for 10 years at $154,000 a year after taxes?
I know I would.
#MeLoveYouLongTime
If the mentioned tax rate is correct at 56%
$4million US dollars at Japan’s tax rate over 10 years is better than $1,200,000 (after tax) now.
$4million US dollars at Japan’s tax rate over 10 years is better than $1,200,000 (after tax) now.
I get what you mean. To answer your question, if I were good enough I’d play baseball just about anywhere for any amount of money as long as I could have a ****** apartment and food in my belly. But as it relates to Japan, a lot would depend on how much time you have to spend there. It is a very expensive country to live in. Real estate is scarce and small in stature, gas and other goods are sky high because of how much they have to import with it being a small island with no means of ground transport in or out. $154,000 would not go near as far as it would in the U.S. But if you save your money and live off your per diem and hotel stipends from the travel, and spend the entire offseason in the U.S., maybe no biggie. It’s a beautiful and very safe country though, with a lot to do.
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“Stewart's decision makes easy sense financially. Say he stayed in the United States and signed for $2 million. Best case, Stewart would have started with a team's short-season Class A affiliate. In 2020, he would top out at Double-A and make less than $10,000 for the season. And if Stewart is that good, and moving that quickly, his team probably would keep him at scant wages in the minor leagues for all of 2021, too, and promote him around this time in 2022 to ensure it controls him for 6¾ years before free agency. In 2022, 2023 and 2024, Stewart would make the major league minimum -- which, being generous and assuming the new collective bargaining agreement gives it a big bump, could be $750,000.
In a near-optimal scenario, Stewart would receive around $4 million for the next six years -- and would not reach free agency until after the 2027 season, when he will be 28. His deal with the Hawks would guarantee Stewart $3 million more and potentially allow him to hit free agency three years earlier.”
In a near-optimal scenario, Stewart would receive around $4 million for the next six years -- and would not reach free agency until after the 2027 season, when he will be 28. His deal with the Hawks would guarantee Stewart $3 million more and potentially allow him to hit free agency three years earlier.”