Jake Mangum, Thunder and Lightning..

[thekimmer]

Interesting thread yesterday about Jake's legacy at the land grant institution. Well I took a look at jakes offensive stats in his first three years compared with palmeiro and clark. A couple of things jumped out at me that I put a little chart together to compare. Jake certainly does a lot of things well that are not mentioned here but just look at these numbers. I did not expect to see such a difference in the RBI category. True enough Jake being a lead off guy he is the dude that is scoring runs not knocking them in but both clark and palmeiro put up better BA, OBP, and SLG numbers over three years than jake. Jake would have to hit close to .450 this season to catch Clark for career average. I don't post this to disparage jake's accomplishments. He is still among the best to play at State and I absolutely love to watch him play. Certainly his legacy is still being written but for now I think I'm pumping the brakes a bit on the notion that Jake has exceeded either T&L.

		BA/OBP/SLG	RBI
Rafael Palmeiro	1983 1984 1985	.406/.479/.739 .415/.491/.886 .300/.384/.592	78 94 67
Will Clark	1983 1984 1985	.337/.406/.663 .386/.515./833 .420/.539/.853	29 93 77
Jake Mangum	2016 2017 2018	.408/.458/.510 .324/.380/.385 .351/.434/.479	28 26 33

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[8dog]

Also remember that mangum is seeing far better pitching

 

[thekimmer]

Also remember that mangum is seeing far better pitching

I'm sure he is but that is impossible to factor into a stats line. I suppose we will get a truer comparison when Jake plays pro ball. This is actually not about Jake so much as I was just so blown away when I was reminded of what T&L did while they were at State.

 

[She Mate Me]

Also remember that mangum is seeing far better pitching

Hitters today clearly have training technology available to them that guys in the 80's couldn't imagine. Batting numbers were definitely inflated by hotter bats in those days though.

Clark and Palmeiro were absolute studs.

Jake is too, just in different ways.