What will our SEC record need to be to host?...

thekimmer

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Sitting at 7-5 right now in the SEC and 5th in the west but tied for the best overall record in the league. 18 conference games left With our current overall record looking pretty good, what SEC record will secure a regional host? What record gets us a top 8 national seed?

Last year the SEC got 4 top 8 national seeds. UF got the #1 national seed with a record of 20-10. Three other SEC teams got top 8 national seeds with 18-12 records. The difference between a top 8 NS and top 16 seed was nonexistent last year as nobody else hosted even with 17 conference wins. Certainly the overall record factors into it but UGA got a top 8 last year with just 37 wins and a quick exit in the SECT. Just goes to demonstrate how important each and every conference game is.

I think 18 SEC wins will get us a national seed this year. Not sure if anything less than that will get us a regional host.

Thoughts?
 
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GhostOfJackie

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At this moment, I think we are in line to get one of the last two national seed spots. We are ranked no lower than 6th in every major college baseball poll, and we have an RPI sitting at 12. Despite losing the LSU series, this team has had success every single weekend.

We probably need to finish with 17-18 conference wins to get the national seed.
 

thekimmer

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I think our fortunes rest largely on the sore right arm of JT Ginn...

At this moment, I think we are in line to get one of the last two national seed spots. We are ranked no lower than 6th in every major college baseball poll, and we have an RPI sitting at 12. Despite losing the LSU series, this team has had success every single weekend.

We probably need to finish with 17-18 conference wins to get the national seed.

If he cannot get back to form quickly we are in trouble.

This weekend is very important. It is a rare opportunity to play a sub .500 SEC team at home. With our remaining schedule we have to make hay while the sun is shining. I will be disappointed with anything less than a sweep. After this we face #10 Arky, #2 UGA, ,#12 TAM and #15 mississippi all in a row and of 3 those 4 series are on the road.
 

Nama Carl

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If he cannot get back to form quickly we are in trouble.

This weekend is very important. It is a rare opportunity to play a sub .500 SEC team at home. With our remaining schedule we have to make hay while the sun is shining. I will be disappointed with anything less than a sweep. After this we face #10 Arky, #2 UGA, ,#12 TAM and #15 mississippi all in a row and of 3 those 4 series are on the road.
Expecting SEC sweeps is a recipe for disappointment. I am just hoping to get 2 of 3 from Alabama and South Carolina at home, 1 from Georgia at home, and 1 each from Arkansas, Texas A&M and Ole Miss (all 3 on the road). Then, we need 1 more between Georgia and those road games.

That is 16-14 and has us hosting, and that is all you can ask for.
 
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patdog

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If you're playing maybe the worst team in the league at home, you need to expect a sweep.
That is 16-14 and has us hosting, and that is all you can ask for.
Talk about setting the bar low. We've been ranked in the top 10 by every poll for the last few weeks. I think it's time to ask for a national seed with hosting a regional as the fallback if we slip up.
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16-14 should get us a host. Likely need 17 or 18 conference wins for a national seed.
 

thekimmer

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Expecting SEC sweeps is a recipe for disappointment. I am just hoping to get 2 of 3 from Alabama and South Carolina at home, 1 from Georgia at home, and 1 each from Arkansas, Texas A&M and Ole Miss (all 3 on the road). Then, we need 1 more between Georgia and those road games.

That is 16-14 and has us hosting, and that is all you can ask for.

Then I'll just be disappointed because I expect a sweep and I am asking for more than 16 wins.
 

Nama Carl

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If you're playing maybe the worst team in the league at home, you need to expect a sweep.

Talk about setting the bar low. We've been ranked in the top 10 by every poll for the last few weeks. I think it's time to ask for a national seed with hosting a regional as the fallback if we slip up.
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That same team beat Ole Miss at Oxford, beat Arkansas and won a series last weekend. Expecting to sweep them is well, after reading the umpire threads, about what I would expect from you.
 

DoggieDaddy13

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We should end up hosting a regional with 15 maybe even 14 wins. A national seed is going to be tough. I see several other teams that are going to be able to beef up their record much better than we likely will.

Honestly, as much as Starkville and MSU would love having a super regional on campus, I am thinking the team might do better traveling to a super. As they did last year.

But whoever said it earlier, if Ginn is not back to form in the next few weeks it's gonna be tough row to hoe. I do see our fielding improving and our bats will likely heat up as well. It's all in the timing. So stay hopeful, SPSers.
 

thekimmer

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16-14 should get us a host. Likely need 17 or 18 conference wins for a national seed.

Looking at recent history, 17 wins did not get USC a host in 2018 and 17 wins did not get us one in 2017 and 17 didn't get Arky one in 2015, much less a top 8. Based on that I don't see 16 getting us in a host scenario or even 17 for that matter.
 
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She Mate Me

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My single thought for now is that we need to sweep the tide. Let's talk after that.
 

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Expecting SEC sweeps is a recipe for disappointment. I am just hoping to get 2 of 3 from Alabama and South Carolina at home, 1 from Georgia at home, and 1 each from Arkansas, Texas A&M and Ole Miss (all 3 on the road). Then, we need 1 more between Georgia and those road games.

That is 16-14 and has us hosting, and that is all you can ask for.

No, it is not. This team is better than 16-14 and I expect them to prove it.
 

8dog

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Thats bc of the rpi for 17 state and 18 usc. The rpi is the starting point. Conference finish then plays a role. Gonna be a dog fight. We are 12 right now which is the 7th best sec rpi
 

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We should end up hosting a regional with 15 maybe even 14 wins. A national seed is going to be tough. I see several other teams that are going to be able to beef up their record much better than we likely will.

Honestly, as much as Starkville and MSU would love having a super regional on campus, I am thinking the team might do better traveling to a super. As they did last year.

But whoever said it earlier, if Ginn is not back to form in the next few weeks it's gonna be tough row to hoe. I do see our fielding improving and our bats will likely heat up as well. It's all in the timing. So stay hopeful, SPSers.
We won't host w 14 for sure and probably not w 15.
 

bruiser.sixpack

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Alabama is improving. They just beat the dog **** out of Sanford, who we struggled against. Do not underestimate them. The SEC West is a freaking Gauntlet. Come out if there with 17 SEC wins, and you are one of the best 12 teams in America.
 

MSUDC11

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Looking at recent history, 17 wins did not get USC a host in 2018 and 17 wins did not get us one in 2017 and 17 didn't get Arky one in 2015, much less a top 8. Based on that I don't see 16 getting us in a host scenario or even 17 for that matter.

We didn’t host in 2017 because the majority of our conference wins were against bad teams and then we lost 8 of our last 12 in conference play. We also had 24 overall losses in the regular season.

To get to 16 or 17 wins, that most likely means we’ll have to have at least a decent finish and probably will require winning one or two series against teams that are currently in the Top 15. We also have only lost one nonconference game so far.

The RPI will take care of itself if we keep winning. We only have three games left against sub 100 RPI teams. 22 overall games left. 13-9 overall would put us at 40-15 going to Hoover. I have a hard time seeing us not hosting if we’re at that mark or better.
 

Cow College

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Don’t expect a sweep ever. I do expect to win some of those road series though. 16 conference wins with this team would be a disappointment.
 

Go Budaw

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16-14 should get us a host. Likely need 17 or 18 conference wins for a national seed.

We got a host at 16-14 in 2013 due to extremely strong RPI / SOS and no bad losses. We were still only the 13th or 14th highest ranked team. We won’t have that as much in our favor this year. We are almost halfway through SEC play and still only have the #61 SOS and #17 RPI. Nonconference schedule is really hurting us.

18-12 will get us a host, 20-10 gets us a national seed. Some wiggle room on both if we perform well in Hoover, but I think it’s unrealistic to expect a host or national seed if we don’t hit those marks.
 

MSUDC11

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Don’t expect a sweep ever. I do expect to win some of those road series though. 16 conference wins with this team would be a disappointment.

Eh... we don’t really have a ton of pitching and that’s especially the case if Ginn is unavailable. And we still have to play four Top 12 teams with three of them being on the road. We’re good but so is almost everybody else we play.
 

MSUDC11

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We got a host at 16-14 in 2013 due to extremely strong RPI / SOS and no bad losses. We were still only the 13th or 14th highest ranked team. We won’t have that as much in our favor this year. We are almost halfway through SEC play and still only have the #61 SOS and #17 RPI. Nonconference schedule is really hurting us.

18-12 will get us a host, 20-10 gets us a national seed. Some wiggle room on both if we perform well in Hoover, but I think it’s unrealistic to expect a host or national seed if we don’t hit those marks.

With our remaining schedule our RPI will course correct if we keep winning series.

6 series left. For sure need to beat Bama and SC at home. If we split the other four series then I would be shocked if we don’t host even at 17-13. Win five of our last six series and there’s a good chance we’re a national seed even if we’re only at 18-12. Obviously a sweep or two would help, but still. Take care of business in the midweek and then win more series than we lose the rest of the way and we should be hosting at the very least.
 

Nama Carl

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With our remaining schedule our RPI will course correct if we keep winning series.

6 series left. For sure need to beat Bama and SC at home. If we split the other four series then I would be shocked if we don’t host even at 17-13. Win five of our last six series and there’s a good chance we’re a national seed even if we’re only at 18-12. Obviously a sweep or two would help, but still. Take care of business in the midweek and then win more series than we lose the rest of the way and we should be hosting at the very least.
We will host at 16-14 most likely. 17-13 almost guaranteed. Reminds me a lot of 2013, SEC was very strong back then.

Right now I see Georgia, Vanderbilt, MSU, Auburn and one of LSU/Arkansas/Ole Miss/Texas A&M getting the host spots. Possibly 2 of those last 3 get it.
 
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Go Budaw

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With our remaining schedule our RPI will course correct if we keep winning series.

6 series left. For sure need to beat Bama and SC at home. If we split the other four series then I would be shocked if we don’t host even at 17-13. Win five of our last six series and there’s a good chance we’re a national seed even if we’re only at 18-12. Obviously a sweep or two would help, but still. Take care of business in the midweek and then win more series than we lose the rest of the way and we should be hosting at the very least.

SOS will of course get better, but how much better? In 2013 we had a Top 10 RPI and #2 SOS. We had an extremely good nonconference schedule and also didn’t play any of the weaker SEC teams. Even still, we were the 13th or 14th team out of 16 hosts. We are currently at #17 RPI and #61 SOS. I think we can get into Top 25-30 SOS (maybe), but we ain’t getting close to #2. We gotta get to 17-13 minimum I think, and very very likely 18-12.
 
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