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mstateglfr

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A friend of mine is an involved donor for VT- he mentioned the day after they lost that a plane had already been tracked coming from A&M and it was a guarantee. Crazy that a move from VT in the ACC, where he has had them consistently good, to A&M is a good hire. He certainly wasnt on a hot seat and needing to move to get ahead of being fired.

I guess he will be in the deep end of the talent pool with that local base of recruits, so thatll be nice.
 
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bddawg

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mstateglfr said:
A friend of mine is an involved donor for VT- he mentioned the day after they lost that a plane had already been tracked coming from A&M and it was a guarantee. Crazy that a move from VT in the ACC, where he has had them consistently good, to A&M is a good hire. He certainly wasnt on a hot seat and needing to move to get ahead of being fired.

I guess he will be in the deep end of the talent pool with that local base of recruits, so thatll be nice.
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Not sure how it plays out, but he was second fiddle in his own state and way down the ladder in recruiting in the acc. And resources certainly won't be a problem in college station.
 
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Leeshouldveflanked

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MSU men’s basketball is very close to being a perinnial bottom dweller.....
1. Head Coach who’s best days are behind them.
2. Bottom 3rd of SEC arena. Yes we have seen the video, but what is the plan/timeline for getting it done?
3. Apathetic fan base.
4. AD whose ability to hire a competent head coach when the current coach retires/resigns is very questionable.
5. The rest of the SEC is actually putting effort and $$$into basketball, unlike the 90’s and 2000’s.
 
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MSUDC11

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dickiedawg said:
This seems like a lateral move.
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Virginia Tech had won one NCAA tourney game since 1967 before this year. A&M’s basketball history isn’t great, but they do have two Sweet 16’s in the last four years and much greater resources. To me it’s less of a lateral move than when Buzz left Marquette for VT.
 
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OliveBranchDAWG

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Leeshouldveflanked said:
MSU men’s basketball is very close to being a perinnial bottom dweller.....
1. Head Coach who’s best days are behind them.
2. Bottom 3rd of SEC arena. Yes we have seen the video, but what is the plan/timeline for getting it done?
3. Apathetic fan base.
4. AD whose ability to hire a competent head coach when the current coach retires/resigns is very questionable.
5. The rest of the SEC is actually putting effort and $$$into basketball, unlike the 90’s and 2000’s.
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1. Not too worried about Howland. At the end of the day, CBB is all about finding a coach to take you to the tournament consistently, the tournament itself is a crapshoot.

2. We’ll get it done sooner than later. A packed Hump currently is as loud as any arena. The problem is getting butts in seats.

3. This is the biggest issue currently. I don’t know what the answer is, we just had a top 20 team that only filled the Hump maybe twice all year. Is this the seating? Students are a big issue

4. Way overblown.

5. Just the nature of the beast. Welcome to the SEC
 
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anon1787432961

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Leeshouldveflanked said:
MSU men’s basketball is very close to being a perinnial bottom dweller.....
1. Head Coach who’s best days are behind them.
2. Bottom 3rd of SEC arena. Yes we have seen the video, but what is the plan/timeline for getting it done?
3. Apathetic fan base.
4. AD whose ability to hire a competent head coach when the current coach retires/resigns is very questionable.
5. The rest of the SEC is actually putting effort and $$$into basketball, unlike the 90’s and 2000’s.
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Mississippi is a great place to retire, and job #1 is recruiting, job #2 is positive mental energy, job #3 is yelling at the refs
 
57stratdawg

57stratdawg

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I expect MBB to be MSU’s weakest sport out of Football, Basketball and Baseball. Mississippi doesn’t produce a ton of talent and our history isn’t great. Plus, I think it’s harder to sell Starkville to basketball players.

That makes the job Beard has done at Texas Tech all the more impressive. It has to be hard to get kids to Lubbock.
 
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archdog

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Even with the video of Hump renovations, not like it is going to make it nice. Looks to me they added a couple more areas that will make the seating look even more empty. We should build a new Hump.
 
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OliveBranchDAWG

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57stratdawg said:
I expect MBB to be MSU’s weakest sport out of Football, Basketball and Baseball. Mississippi doesn’t produce a ton of talent and our history isn’t great. Plus, I think it’s harder to sell Starkville to basketball players.

That makes the job Beard has done at Texas Tech all the more impressive. It has to be hard to get kids to Lubbock.
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Talent has NEVER (outside of Rick Ray) been an issue for MSU basketball. Go look at the recruits we’ve pulled in the last 30 years. Top 4-5 in the SEC in talent.

You can pinpoint issues with MSU basketball (transfers, coaching, etc.), but talent hasn’t been one of them. That’s a weak excuse.
 
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maroonmania

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archdog said:
Even with the video of Hump renovations, not like it is going to make it nice. Looks to me they added a couple more areas that will make the seating look even more empty. We should build a new Hump.
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Doubt it would matter. We have similar problems in basketball and baseball attendance only basketball is much worse. That being that in basketball (lower concourse) and baseball (new grandstands) all of the premium seating is sold out but rarely ever full. This past weekend for the LSU series was my first to attend at the new baseball stadium and it seemed to have the same problem the old grandstand had. That being, that the berms and GA standing room only areas were jam packed but the grandstand was maybe two-thirds full. I had to pay double face value to get a chair back seat and once I got in there I could have sat pretty much anywhere I wanted to. I wish I had money to spend on seats that I never planned to use or resale. Must be nice.
 
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DAWG61

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fishwater99 said:
Very similar to Mullen leaving MSU to go to UF in football. More money and a better chance to win.
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The more money and better chance to win are true but Florida football is miles ahead of aTm basketball historically.
 
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Go Budaw

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OliveBranchDAWG said:
Talent has NEVER (outside of Rick Ray) been an issue for MSU basketball. Go look at the recruits we’ve pulled in the last 30 years. Top 4-5 in the SEC in talent.

You can pinpoint issues with MSU basketball (transfers, coaching, etc.), but talent hasn’t been one of them. That’s a weak excuse.
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Talent has never been an issue? We have no active NBA players from MSU unless you count Rodney Hood. We’ve had two players in the past 35 years or so make it to the NBA and actually get more than a cup of coffee (Dampier and Rodney Hood), and one of those two transferred out after his freshmen season. Talent is a huge issue.
 
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olblue

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Go Budaw said:
Talent has never been an issue? We have no active NBA players from MSU unless you count Rodney Hood. We’ve had two players in the past 35 years or so make it to the NBA and actually get more than a cup of coffee (Dampier and Rodney Hood), and one of those two transferred out after his freshmen season. Talent is a huge issue.
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That might leave a mark.
 
mstateglfr

mstateglfr

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Go Budaw said:
Talent has never been an issue? We have no active NBA players from MSU unless you count Rodney Hood. We’ve had two players in the past 35 years or so make it to the NBA and actually get more than a cup of coffee (Dampier and Rodney Hood), and one of those two transferred out after his freshmen season. Talent is a huge issue.
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MSU hasnt had NBA level talent. Its cup has overflowethed with T100 4* talent though.

1- success in the NBA doesnt mean you were successful in college.
2- success in college doesnt mean you will be successful in the NBA.

I would take a team of Varnados, Gordons, Rhodes(es?), Roberts(es?), Weatherspoons etc absolutely any day of the week, even if only 2 of those specific players ever touch an NBA floor.
 
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Bulldogg31

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My Wednesday was going so well. Now I have to add “Texas A&M Men’s Basketball” to the list of **** I have to worry about as a State fan. 17.
 
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