MSU vs Oregon Official Game Thread: Good defensive start.

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

The pick & roll is as old a play as Abner Doubleday. They have an overall better team. It will be HEART that will have to get State over the Hump.

They have a very balanced team. It cracks me up how fast fans will pull the "outcoached" card on the National Coach of the Year.

 

[Original48]

Ive never seen an over the back called on the inside position.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

Refs have murdered us this quarter.

 

[Original48]

Not sure who is more protective of Oregon, refs or announcers.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

Whoever this guy is calling it has no idea what he is talking about. He is awful.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Was that the first time they called a foul on them in the second half?

 

[olblue.sixpack]

We are getting carved up. Extend the zone and make them beat us from 14-16 feet. We have the best rim protector in the game and we are letting them drag her around the court

Holmes and Howard are competing. Keeping MSU in the game.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

We just have no answers.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

That break for Jazz resulted in a bad offensive trip

 

[Go Budaw]

Well, T kinda watched them rebound their missed shots in the 1st series.

She’s been watching a lot. Been in position to contest a bunch of looks around the basket and has just let them have a milliom freebies.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

That's about it. We can't stop them and we can't score.
I hope Baylor beats the everloving dogshit out of this team.

I really would have like to have seen us play them on a REAL neutral court. The #1 seed doesn't mean **** in the women's tournament.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

Yeah. I am afraid this weekend may be about to get even worse for MSU fans and teams.

 

[vandaldawg]

Is the game over?

 

[SyonaraStanz]

We're pretty evenly matched with Oregon. It just sucks they got the home court as the 2 seed. Not surprised at a close home win. Should have bet on this one.

 

[11thEagleFan]

It’s infuriating that everyone guards McCowan the same. Hard elbows to the ribs and back, see if you can trip her and make it look accidental, and grab and pull her on the way down. I’d get frustrated too.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

We are giving up layups and they have the lead. We cannot stop them and are running out of time.

 

[Original48]

I don’t know how many layups they get before we try a matchup zone.

 

[Original48]

Too late obviously but they are too athletic.

 

[8dog]

We made a decision to take the best rim protector in the game out of play because “we are a man to man team”

 

[oh yeah]

Seems like they’ve rained a lot of 3’s. Ionescu has been unconscious

 

[olblue.sixpack]

We made a decision to take the best rim protector in the game out of play because “we are a man to man team”

In addition, you aren’t going to win a championship unless you can make some threes. MSU didn’t have that component in its half court offense.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

They made 13 3’s. We made 4 or 5. That is 8 more 2’s you have to make. Just don’t get that many opportunities unless the opponent turns it over and they didn’t.

 

[8dog]

Very True but we have also scored 82 points.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

I don’t think this team was going to get past Baylor. In my opinion we have overachieved all year. Got some hardware while at it.

 

[tribaldawg]

Holmes

Holmes and Howard are competing. Keeping MSU in the game.

Holmes is a weakness. If you noticed Oregon didn't even guard her which allowed all 5 of Oregon's players to stay down low. We have to have a guard that can hit threes that will spread the defense out so they don't triple team our center.

 

[8dog]

We scored 84 points. We didnt lose this game on offense

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Oregon: 13/26. 50%. State: 8/14 57%

at least get the stats right before you make a point.

 

[anon1787432961]

I don’t think this team was going to get past Baylor. In my opinion we have overachieved all year. Got some hardware while at it.

This. We finished in the top 5 this year. Wasn't expecting that. They did about the best they could considering.

 

[MSUDC11]

In addition, you aren’t going to win a championship unless you can make some threes. MSU didn’t have that component in its half court offense.

This narrative needs to die. We were 8-14 from three today. We lost while scoring 84 points.

All three of our losses this season were on days where our defense wasn’t good. That’s the common denominator. This team just never was quite as good defensively as it could’ve been. Great team and great season, just not quite good enough to be a national championship team.

 

[Go Budaw]

We made a decision to take the best rim protector in the game out of play because “we are a man to man team”

She looked nothing close to “the best rim protector in the game” on multiple inside looks when she actually was in position where we gave up point blank layups without her even contesting them. Happened at least 4-5 times, minimum.

 

[8dog]

She had at least 3 blocks and makes the offense think twice about going to the rim. Even when she is off its better than incontested layups. 80 minutes of letting them dissect us i wonder if we would do the same thing if we played a third time

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

This narrative needs to die. We were 8-14 from three today. We lost while scoring 84 points.

All three of our losses this season were on days where our defense wasn’t good. That’s the common denominator. This team just never was quite as good defensively as it could’ve been. Great team and great season, just not quite good enough to be a national championship team.

The threes did not beat us. The layups did.

 

[olblue.sixpack]

Very True but we have also scored 82 points.

Good point. Scored enough, but on those occasions when you get into a shootout you need to have a couple that can knock down the three ball.

At the end of the day, you hit the nail on the head. MSU had no answers on defense.

 

[olblue.sixpack]

Very True but we have also scored 82 points.

The same thing could very well doom Kentucky too.

 

[tribaldawg]

We scored 84 points. We didnt lose this game on offense

Well since we lost by points I'm saying we need more offense. Not hard to figure out is it? The fact is we need more production from Holmes so they have to guard her versus leaving her wide open so they can triple team down low.

 

[olblue.sixpack]

This narrative needs to die. We were 8-14 from three today. We lost while scoring 84 points.

All three of our losses this season were on days where our defense wasn’t good. That’s the common denominator. This team just never was quite as good defensively as it could’ve been. Great team and great season, just not quite good enough to be a national championship team.

When it became a two possession game down the stretch, MSU couldn’t rely on the three ball. That is a killer in games like this.

 

[Len2003]

The fact of the matter is that there are a lot of teams you can't defend. The idea that defense wins championships is old school. There are times when you need to rely on your offense. We had a limited outside game. We did what we could with the personnel we had.

Also, T has a bad attitude and effort at times. She's not mentally tough all the time. And Vic needs to realize that you need a plan B on defense when man to man doesn't work.

 

[MSUDC11]

When it became a two possession game down the stretch, MSU couldn’t rely on the three ball. That is a killer in games like this.

No, what killed us down the stretch is the fact that we couldn’t stop them at all. Not a great defensive game from us and a fantastic player in Ionescu having a fantastic game is why we lost.

 

[Go Budaw]

She had at least 3 blocks and makes the offense think twice about going to the rim. Even when she is off its better than incontested layups. 80 minutes of letting them dissect us i wonder if we would do the same thing if we played a third time

Well, we aren’t gonna zone the best 3-point shooting team in the country for 40 minutes. So you have to wonder what else we could do. Maybe more full court press or box and one on Ionescu? I don’t know, but regardless I think we just got beat by a better team. We played light years better than we did in the first matchup (even without Bibby) and it still wasn’t close to enough. Just didn’t have the horses.

 

[8dog]

Well we know for a fact we arent gonna beat them in man. Show a different look. Try something. You can run a zone geared towards guarding the three.