So is Nick back for NCCAT ?

[fishwater99]

#FreeNick

 

[mstateglfr]

Did I miss something? Why would he suddenly be back?
I hadn't seen anything announced that would indicate the indefinite suspension had been lifted.

 

[HamSammich]

Tyler Hourka said one of his things to look for was the possibility of Nick playing Friday.

 

[woozman]

Did I miss something?

Yes. Hadad’s and Walker’s podcasts are good sources of info - for free...

 

[She Mate Me]

Well, for those of us who haven't listened to the podcast, be nice if someone could give a little less brief update than we've had here so far.

 

[Bulldogg31]

Well, for those of us who haven't listened to the podcast, be nice if someone could give a little less brief update than we've had here so far.

Sure thing. Both Brandon and Brian/Joel did podcasts this week where they talked about whether or not Nick would be rejoining the team for the tourney. Hope this helps.***


Just kidding. I believe they said Howland was asked Nick was joining the team and he gave a more ambiguous answer than normal. Also, when Adidas put their tourney shoes out on display, there was a pair marked for Nick.

 

[mstateglfr]

Yes. Hadad’s and Walker’s podcasts are good sources of info - for free...

So nothing was announced.

I should listed to their podcasts...its always just been down on the priority list of things to listen to. Havent trained myself to think of it. Thanks for the remind- ill add it now to the main podcast screen.

 

[She Mate Me]

Sure thing. Both Brandon and Brian/Joel did podcasts this week where they talked about whether or not Nick would be rejoining the team for the tourney. Hope this helps.***


Just kidding. I believe they said Howland was asked Nick was joining the team and he gave a more ambiguous answer than normal. Also, when Adidas put their tourney shoes out on display, there was a pair marked for Nick.

Thanks much.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

#FREEGOTTI

 

[johnson86-1]

Thread Hijack:

If Nick does come back, what do you do with him? If it were regular season, I think the answer would be you put him back in the starting lineup. But I'm thinking for the tournament, he's been out long enough that you don't want to risk the potential that we come out disjointed?

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Bring him off the bench EARLY

 

[Go Budaw]

Sure thing. Both Brandon and Brian/Joel did podcasts this week where they talked about whether or not Nick would be rejoining the team for the tourney. Hope this helps.***


Just kidding. I believe they said Howland was asked Nick was joining the team and he gave a more ambiguous answer than normal. Also, when Adidas put their tourney shoes out on display, there was a pair marked for Nick.

I don’t get how there is any gray area with this. If he cheated on a test or whatever, he should 100% for sure be done for the season and maybe even his career if it was severe enough. If he didn’t, the investigation should have been completed and he should have been cleared a month ago. There is literally no reason why there shouldn’t be a resolution one way or the other at this point. There should be no question as to whether he is available by now, so I am going to assume that he is not cleared and won’t ever be cleared this year, because the alternative would mean we horribly bungled this investigation in a ridiculous way.

 

[dawgstudent]

You use him coming off the bench.

 

[FQDawg]

I don’t get how there is any gray area with this. If he cheated on a test or whatever, he should 100% for sure be done for the season and maybe even his career if it was severe enough. If he didn’t, the investigation should have been completed and he should have been cleared a month ago. There is literally no reason why there shouldn’t be a resolution one way or the other at this point. There should be no question as to whether he is available by now, so I am going to assume that he is not cleared and won’t ever be cleared this year, because the alternative would mean we horribly bungled this investigation in a ridiculous way.

I wouldn't assume that just because we don't know what went on behind the scenes that the whole process was bungled. We don't need to know everything about everything.

 

[Shmuley]

If .... if ..... IIIIIIIFFFFFFF he is allowed back, then LOOK OUT.

 

[patdog]

You use him coming off the bench.

Definitely.

 

[DAWG61]

Or they're trying to determine just how full of **** some ******** tutor is. Just guessing tho. I bring in Nick with first subs and play him 20-25 min.

 

[MSUDC11]

If .... if ..... IIIIIIIFFFFFFF he is allowed back, then LOOK OUT.

I hope he’s coming back but I honestly don’t know if it changes much about our trajectory. We can get to the Sweet 16 without him, but I don’t think we can beat Duke even if he is available.

 

[maroonmania]

I don't know but from everything being passed around it doesn't sound like this is a compliance issue, but rather a school policy academic issue. So at least Bracky shouldn't have any say in this which gives me a little hope that we will get a reasonable, well thought out result.

 

[Go Budaw]

I wouldn't assume that just because we don't know what went on behind the scenes that the whole process was bungled. We don't need to know everything about everything.

I didn’t say we (the fans / alumni) had to know everything. I said the people who DO need to know everything who have to decide Nick’s fate have had beyond sufficient time to learn everything that can be discovered regarding the situation. Nick is only taking so many classes and has only turned in so many assignments / tests for those classes. It’s extremely easy to vet every single one of those assignments / tests for the ENTIRE semester in a matter of a few weeks. And any ruling that puts him on the court this season essentially means he was guilty of no wrongdoing, because you don’t just suspend a kid for 1/3rd of a semester for academic misconduct. Its a much more serious deal than that. If it turns out that he did nothing wrong and he missed 10+ games, then we or somebody badly 17ed up the investigation.

 

[Go Budaw]

Or they're trying to determine just how full of **** some ******** tutor is. Just guessing tho. I bring in Nick with first subs and play him 20-25 min.

Again, there has been beyond enough time to figure out how full of **** the tutor, Nick, the professor, or anyone else is. They aren’t swabbing for DNA and sending it off to a lab for testing, it’s all just paperwork and he-said / she-said regarding some classwork or test. If he still isn’t playing, then the logical inference is that he is done for the year because there likely won’t be any new revelations.

 

[patdog]

Seeing as how you don't know any more than I do what he's suspended for, you really don't have any idea if there's any gray area or not.

 

[Go Budaw]

Seeing as how you don't know any more than I do what he's suspended for, you really don't have any idea if there's any gray area or not.

And you think the media does know, and yet isn’t saying anything about it out of the goodness of their hearts? They don’t know anything either. So why would anyone listen to the speculation of Horka talking about Howland’s voice wavering or whatever nonsense he is spitting out? Nick has been out and should be assumed to stay out for the long haul. There hasn’t been a credible source to suggest otherwise.

 

[FQDawg]

I didn’t say we (the fans / alumni) had to know everything. I said the people who DO need to know everything who have to decide Nick’s fate have had beyond sufficient time to learn everything that can be discovered regarding the situation. Nick is only taking so many classes and has only turned in so many assignments / tests for those classes. It’s extremely easy to vet every single one of those assignments / tests for the ENTIRE semester in a matter of a few weeks. And any ruling that puts him on the court this season essentially means he was guilty of no wrongdoing, because you don’t just suspend a kid for 1/3rd of a semester for academic misconduct. Its a much more serious deal than that. If it turns out that he did nothing wrong and he missed 10+ games, then we or somebody badly 17ed up the investigation.

Maybe they have learned everything they need to know about the situation and his sitting out is the result. Just because we don't know when or if he'll return doesn't mean the thing has been mishandled.

 

[patdog]

That's always been my assumption. I assume Nick is out until next season at least.

 

[Go Budaw]

That's always been my assumption. I assume Nick is out until next season at least.

Same here. To be clear, I wasn’t accusing the university of dragging their feet at all. It’s just that 98% of the rumors involve academic misconduct, so I used the university as an example.. But truthfully, even if its the NCAA or law enforcement leading some investigation, 5+ weeks is still beyond enough time to reach a conclusion one way or the other for just about anything under the sun. I can’t imagine a situation in my head under any of those 3 umbrellas (MSU, NCAA, law enforcement) that would take longer than 5 weeks to reasonably resolve. Of course, we know the NCAA doesn’t give a 17 about time tables, but the other two generally should.

 

[Go Budaw]

Maybe they have learned everything they need to know about the situation and his sitting out is the result. Just because we don't know when or if he'll return doesn't mean the thing has been mishandled.

That is what I think happened. I was speaking in hypotheticals regarding what some media types were reporting about Nick returning. I think they are full of it. I’m not saying the university mishandled it at all, just that him coming back now after sitting out for 5 weeks would certainly indicate somebody probably did (whoever was leading whatever investigation). But I don’t think that’s going to happen.

 

[DeeBostJumper]

I think there is a chance he plays Sunday, if we can beat Liberty. Probably coming off the bench since Tyson is playing so well

 

[mstateglfr]

I think there is a chance he plays Sunday, if we can beat VA Tech. Probably coming off the bench since Tyson is playing so well

And what are you basing this on, dee bost jumper?

 

[anonymous.sixpack]

Again, there has been beyond enough time to figure out how full of **** the tutor, Nick, the professor, or anyone else is. They aren’t swabbing for DNA and sending it off to a lab for testing, it’s all just paperwork and he-said / she-said regarding some classwork or test. If he still isn’t playing, then the logical inference is that he is done for the year because there likely won’t be any new revelations.

Let me guess. You are in the fast food industry.

 

[Dawgcap]

If what he did was bad enough to be suspended this long, what kind of message do you send to him if you have him play in the tournament?

 

[MeridianDog]

Is it conceivable that he was benched for the regular season and they are considering bring him back for these non-season games?

As far as I am concerned, that could be a negotiated settlement. Helps the team and teaches him what happens when you make a mistake.

 

[RocketDawg]

Did he make the trip? Even if he did, it could be just a gesture of good faith so he'll get to go to the tournament. I assume the charter a plane so one more person shouldn't cost anything additional.

 

[was21]

how much does Nick weigh

 

[DeeBostJumper]

And what are you basing this on, dee bost jumper?

Heard from source with close tie to inside program, the suspension might have a couple to three games left while playing in SEC tournament.