PSA: IB in the booth with Jim

engie

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Listen to this guy call the game. Who sounds the same as he did as our coach. And then process the fact that ~ 50% of this website convinced themselves at 3-4 different points in his career that he didn’t know what he was doing as coach. Because he had a tendency to overcompensate when faced with shortcomings that he has procedurally erased from our program over time. Handed Lemonis a monster through what should have theoretically been a rebuild(coach changes, stadium complications for practice, etc).

These truly are the golden days of MSU fandom
 

CochiseCowbell

Heisman
Oct 29, 2012
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I completely agree Engie.

I hate the turf around the plate & it infuriated me when he would make a pitching change mid-count. But, you can't deny his intelligence & big picture view. I have zero complaints of him as AD either.
 

She Mate Me

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Dec 7, 2008
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Listen to this guy call the game. Who sounds the same as he did as our coach. And then process the fact that ~ 50% of this website convinced themselves at 3-4 different points in his career that he didn’t know what he was doing as coach. Because he had a tendency to overcompensate when faced with shortcomings that he has procedurally erased from our program over time. Handed Lemonis a monster through what should have theoretically been a rebuild(coach changes, stadium complications for practice, etc).

These truly are the golden days of MSU fandom

I know it's very early in his tenure, but it seems Cohen has no concern about whether he's got the right guy running this team.

I get the feeling Lemonis is a lot like the IB in the way he manages things.
 

notoriousD_O_G

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Listen to this guy call the game. Who sounds the same as he did as our coach. And then process the fact that ~ 50% of this website convinced themselves at 3-4 different points in his career that he didn’t know what he was doing as coach. Because he had a tendency to overcompensate when faced with shortcomings that he has procedurally erased from our program over time. Handed Lemonis a monster through what should have theoretically been a rebuild(coach changes, stadium complications for practice, etc).

These truly are the golden days of MSU fandom

Cohen never gets enough credit for rebuilding our program honestly. Sure we had the history but we were WAY behind a lot of the conference when he took over.
 

CochiseCowbell

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So, you're saying he knew the team was stacked & thought a random horny monkey could run it?*

We need a half sarcastrisk.

I think he learned that lesson already. Lemonis may not have been "a name" coach, cue Shmuley's signature, but I think he got the best he could after our out of nowhere run last year. And, so far we're doing all of the little things better. It's early but Lemonis has impressed me so far.
 

patdog

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Cohen may be the smartest guy in the SEC in any sport. Sometimes, he would outsmart himself though. Agree with another poster in this thread that he deserves credit for rebuilding our program from rock bottom when he first took the job, which was a much tougher job than it was in 1976. And it definitely looks like he's made a great hire to replace Cannizaro.
 

RocketDawg

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Cohen may be the smartest guy in the SEC in any sport. Sometimes, he would outsmart himself though. Agree with another poster in this thread that he deserves credit for rebuilding our program from rock bottom when he first took the job, which was a much tougher job than it was in 1976. And it definitely looks like he's made a great hire to replace Cannizaro.

That's probably true.
 

engie

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It is true that some of it is the stars in the universe finally seeming to start to align in our favor after handing us terrible misfortune with injuries the past two seasons. That said, it's been very well-managed overall. We run the bases better than we have. We situationally hit better than we have. We get contact more than we have, for more power, go deeper in counts. Pitchers throw strikes. And have enough dang talent and depth on the hill that we don't have to get cute with rotations out there. We've had a couple of games that we didn't score a lot of runs. But it wasn't because we were up there getting mowed down. There was a lot of solid contact in those games. Just right at people. The USM game of note saw only 5Ks to 7 hits. We're scoring 1.7 times for every strikeout thusfar this year. About double our traditional average. Of course that will regress to mean as we see more elite arms, but it just makes the point. When this number approaches 1.0-1, it's one of our elite offensive teams.

Not to throw ice water on the whole deal, but the more I see and know over time, we better enjoy Gautreau while we have him...

Cohen definitely had a tendency to overmanage at times. But that tendency ran inversely proportional to how good the team was in general. So, was it really overmanagement? Or was it knowing you didn't have enough talent there to get it done and digging deep to try and find anything there to catch lightning in a bottle and hide the issue? To be fair to him, he had one relatively complete team here: 2016. The rest of them, even 2013, had glaring holes that were(in that case) successfully compensated for by going way outside the box.
 
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MSUDC11

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People forget that the reason many didn’t want him as AD is because they really liked where the baseball program was in 2016 and didn’t want him to step down as coach and mess that up. I realize that his tenure as head coach was a little bit up and down, but he took us farther than any coach ever has in the postseason and also brought us our first SEC title in baseball in 25 years. I would argue he’s one of the more under appreciated coaches in school history in any sport.
 
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