Amount is confidential. Did y'all see where the AAF reached out to him but said he'd only play for $20M/per. If you get to his age and you truly love football and the NFL isn't calling then I think it says a lot about ones real desire to play football if you aren't taking the chance. That lack of commitment may have scared teams off as much as anything else. Just my thoughts.
So the NFL and Kaepernick reached a collusion settlement
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If he/they got 60-80M then there must have been some pretty damning emails between teams or the NFL.
I know some lawyers and agents on both sides are about to get paid. Not sure how much Kap will get but wonder what he’ll do with the money?
I still say if he could go 25-of-35 with 300 yards and 3 TD’s on a regular basis he’d be on a roster. There’s some NFL teams that would put Betty White in the backfield if she ran a 4.4 and could break a tackle. They just want to win.
I still say if he could go 25-of-35 with 300 yards and 3 TD’s on a regular basis he’d be on a roster. There’s some NFL teams that would put Betty White in the backfield if she ran a 4.4 and could break a tackle. They just want to win.
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This stance makes no sense. There's obviously something there or they wouldn't just settle for a **** ton of money.
First off I’ll clarify this by saying I think Kaepernick is an idiot for his whole stance to begin with. That being said, he wasn’t saying teams were colluding against him because he was black. And, his stance on the flag was duplicated by dozens of players throughout the league who were since signed by other teams.
In just one case study, just this season, the Washington Redskins lost not one but two QB’s for the season while in the middle of the a playoff race. They proceeded to sign Butt Fumble Sanchez, and eventually a jouneyman from an AAF roster in lieu of a QB with a super bowl on his resume. This all happened after the same Redskins team signed two-time domestic abuser Reuben Foster who had just been cut from the 49ers due to legal trouble. So it’s not like they are some pillar of virtue as far as their free agency screening process goes.
I don’t know that Kaepernick wouldn’t be a locker room cancer, nor do I know whether he has any legal ground to stand on with the lawsuit even if he’s right about everything. But, its pretty apparent that there has been a concerted effort to keep him out. Of course, part of that is his own doing as far as him voluntarily leaving the 49ers and opting for free agency. But the point remains. The NFL obviously thought there was enough there to give him a **** ton of money to make this thing go away.
So in your post you have stated
-teams sign people with criminal past
-teams sign players that aren’t viewed as “good”
-all teams have someone who protested the national anthem
So ask yourself. Why hasn’t Kaep signed? The answer is Kaep. The answer is not NFL owners. He was offered spots and didn’t accept them. It’s his own fault. He is trying to be a martyr.
-teams sign people with criminal past
-teams sign players that aren’t viewed as “good”
-all teams have someone who protested the national anthem
So ask yourself. Why hasn’t Kaep signed? The answer is Kaep. The answer is not NFL owners. He was offered spots and didn’t accept them. It’s his own fault. He is trying to be a martyr.
To me it's pretty cut and dry. He's ratings poison for a HUGE group of NFL fans. It has zero to do with his play or team chemistry. If SAN FRANCISCO (of all places) wasn't able to keep him around, how in the world could any other city muster up enough support? When he's on the tube, the largest segment of the NFL's fanbase (middle aged, middle class white guys), is checking out.
Associated Press reported The AAF asked him about playing... he wanted $20million or more..... he didn’t want to play football, he wanted to line his pockets....
Yeah, he can certainly play in the NFL. They kept him out and now they’re paying him to go away. I don’t blame really blame them.
Do you have anything (evidence or media reports) suggesting Kaepernick was offered spots in the last year? I have not seen any reporting suggesting that and it seems unlikely the NFL would settle a collusion case with him if so since that would be direct evidence there was no collusion.
And why should he play? They are paying him very well to be a role model for future athletes.
Can anyone else kneel and just get a couple of million? Asking for a friend.
None in the last year but plenty of evidence that he was offered before that.
Why would people keep offering when he has turned them down and he hasn’t played in 3 years?
Broncos - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nb...illing-take-broncos-current-pay-cut-offer?amp
Baltimore - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ba...ewis-colin-kaepernick-20170905-story,amp.html
NOTE THE TWEET FROM THE PATHETIC RACIST GIRLFRIEND IN THE ARTICLE.
As stated in this thread, he wanted $20M to play in the AAF. Will Dak Get $20m/year from the cowboys?
Why would people keep offering when he has turned them down and he hasn’t played in 3 years?
Broncos - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nb...illing-take-broncos-current-pay-cut-offer?amp
Baltimore - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ba...ewis-colin-kaepernick-20170905-story,amp.html
NOTE THE TWEET FROM THE PATHETIC RACIST GIRLFRIEND IN THE ARTICLE.
As stated in this thread, he wanted $20M to play in the AAF. Will Dak Get $20m/year from the cowboys?
The first offer you reference from the Broncos was a pay cut while he was still under contract with San Fran and the second article says the Ravens made a decision not to give him an offer. That hardly suggests he’s gotten any NFL offers since he left San Francisco. The fact that the NFL was willing to pay a sizable amount to settle his case is a much stronger suggestion that he has not.
As for the AAF offer, that doesn’t change my view of what NFL opportunities he likely has or has not had since leaving San Fran. Maybe he’s not getting offers because teams know he’s not willing to take what they’d be willing to pay. But it seems clear from this settlement and the lack of reports of any NFL offers since he became a free agent that he’s not the one turning down the NFL at this point.
As for the AAF offer, that doesn’t change my view of what NFL opportunities he likely has or has not had since leaving San Fran. Maybe he’s not getting offers because teams know he’s not willing to take what they’d be willing to pay. But it seems clear from this settlement and the lack of reports of any NFL offers since he became a free agent that he’s not the one turning down the NFL at this point.
Why would Baltimore offer him after the ******** his girlfriend said.
That’s the point. He isn’t getting offers at the money he wants bc he isn’t worth that money. The settlement he got is proof of that. He’s worth more to go away than he is to play. Let that sink in. They were willing to pay him enough to get him to agree to go away than they were to pay him to play. He’s not that great and has a lot of baggage.
That’s the point. He isn’t getting offers at the money he wants bc he isn’t worth that money. The settlement he got is proof of that. He’s worth more to go away than he is to play. Let that sink in. They were willing to pay him enough to get him to agree to go away than they were to pay him to play. He’s not that great and has a lot of baggage.
Okay, if you’re saying the NFL has good reasons not to offer Kaepernick, that’s different and not something I’m arguing about here. But, above you said “he was offered spots and didn’t accept them” and that just doesn’t seem to be supported by any evidence.
So you agree they didn't actually make him an offer. So we're left with one offer from the Broncos before he was a free agent that would have been for less money over 2016 and 2017 than the 49ers had to pay him to not play in 2016. There's no evidence he was turning down actual offers from NFL teams.
Say what you will about Kaepernick's protest, but the argument that he "isn't good enough" easily disproven by both traditional and advanced statistics:
Note that this video was made in 2017.
Note that this video was made in 2017.
Why was the NFL weak-kneed? Maybe the league understands having a court of law handling this issue is different than having the commissioner do his thing? What would happen if the brand actually colluded and got exposed?
What offers did he get and what deals did he turn down? There has been nothing public that’s come out of him turning down anything since he opted out of his deal with the 49ers in 2017. Everything else has been hearsay about vague interest and no concrete offers.
I don't think many would deny that he's good enough to make a roster. The question is whether he's good enough to be the starter on a good team. Considering he won 3 of his last 19 games as SF's QB, I think most would say no.
And then if you think the answer to that is no, the next question is whether you want to deal with all the ******** for a backup or stop-gap starter.
Yeah, I don’t think anyone really believes his on-field performance is why he didn’t get another job. Here’s a good 538 article on him and his situation:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...aw27gxei_8XDjLJRmm_JP0MQ&ust=1550431571255961
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...aw27gxei_8XDjLJRmm_JP0MQ&ust=1550431571255961
Why is everyone assuming he got a big chunk of money. I assume if he did get money he got maybe $5 mill/year (or whatever the average is among the top backups) plus any expenses incurred suing them. That's generous considering he didn't play a down of football. I think there's a posibility he settled too to prevent any conflicting or controversial things he has said/done to damage his reputation as a leader in blm. Once the lawsuit went to trial there would be no winners. Everyone's name on his side and the nfl side would have been dragged through the mud.
Seattle claims they offered him too.
I’m not going to link every article, but it’s real damn clear. If Colin Kaepernick wanted a chance to play in the nfl, he could have played somewhere for 6 to 10 mil/year. He didn’t want that.
If you think he didn’t have chance to take a back up roll at a similar amount, U R DUMB.
I’m not going to link every article, but it’s real damn clear. If Colin Kaepernick wanted a chance to play in the nfl, he could have played somewhere for 6 to 10 mil/year. He didn’t want that.
If you think he didn’t have chance to take a back up roll at a similar amount, U R DUMB.
Except he wasn’t getting a $6 to $10 million offer from Seattle. In fact, he never got an official offer period because they came nowhere close on the money. He was potentially getting a long term back-up deal worth maybe $3 million per year (if that) after he had just been making $14.5 per year as a starter. See the article below which lays it out pretty well:
https://www.thenewstribune.com/spor...s/seahawks-insider-blog/article154162614.html
What Seattle discussed with him essentially amounted to a non-offer for a player that had Kaepernick’s on-field resume....as they were simply trying to exploit the flag controversy for their own personal gain to try and get a totally unrealistic bargain. Kaepernick and/or his agent called their bluff. It would have been foolish for him to lock into a long term deal at such a low salary and essentially eliminate any chances of ever getting a major deal again for the rest of his career.
There are two key facts. Number one....Kaepernick on the field is objectively a Top 20-25 QB in the NFL. That’s not great or anything in a league of 32 teams, but it would make him a serviceable starter for most teams. Easily worth $10 million or so per year (again, based on his on-field performance). Number two...Kaepernick never did anything in violation of the league’s personal conduct policy that would necessitate him being passed over for non-performance related reasons.
Does any of this make me a Kaepernick fan, hell no. But as it relates to the lawsuit, the two facts above are absolutely indisputable. And because of those facts being in place, the only thing missing from the collusion puzzle is whether he got any legitimate interests in his services after opting out from San Francisco. And again, the NFL certainly seems to think there was enough smoke to make things go away and not let this thing see the inside of a courtroom. You have to realize that this is perhaps the most unpopular thing the NFL’s brass could possibly do for the anti-Kaep crowd (which is the overwhelming majority of casual observers) by essentially caving in to Kaepernick’s demands and not fighting tooth and nail to the end against him. But they did it anyway. Why?
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