Maybe this will pull some of you back from the ledge

TheStateUofMS

All-Conference
Dec 26, 2009
10,500
2,503
113
Someone on 247 said this is the highest avg recruit we've had since the composite started in 2004.
 

The Fatboy

Senior
Oct 18, 2005
2,782
744
83
I like this class. Best one I can remember in a long time. I'm not sure why other people are so upset. Quality class.
 

Bulldogg31

Redshirt
Dec 9, 2013
8,263
0
0
Because Ole Miss people told us they did better than we did. It’s kinda what they do. They still lead the league in mythical February trophies.
 

o_dawgnabit

All-American
Oct 13, 2016
5,079
8,222
113
I like this class. Best one I can remember in a long time. I'm not sure why other people are so upset. Quality class.

People are upset for a couple reasons
1. I think people are still disappointed from the season and now believe the world is falling and can’t look at any positives.
2. This is the most talent rich this state has produced ranking wise and we didn’t capitalize on OM being down. We only got 5 of the top 20 in the state.
3. While it is the highest rated class we’ve had according to avereage ratings, it’s 7th in the west in overall rankings.

I see both positives and negatives of this recruiting cycle. I think there were for sure some very big gets but there was also a lot we could’ve been better at
 

Seinfeld

All-American
Nov 30, 2006
11,761
8,192
113
If there’s a #4, it’s that we only used 21 schollies, so it literally is as if we again self-imposed our own penalties

That said, there is plenty to like about this class, and it wasn’t going to have a ton of impact on next season no matter what went down
 

o_dawgnabit

All-American
Oct 13, 2016
5,079
8,222
113
If there’s a #4, it’s that we only used 21 schollies, so it literally is as if we again self-imposed our own penalties

That said, there is plenty to like about this class, and it wasn’t going to have a ton of impact on next season no matter what went down

There's actually a lot more to that. Steve covered that theory in his Boneyard. When you look at it, we really haven't had as much attrition on our roster as most teams. And you'r only allowed 85 total players. So we actually only have a couple spots left to fill and we are trying to do that with grad transfers.
 

Shmuley

Heisman
Mar 6, 2008
24,432
12,662
113
Apparently we have decided to take a 1/2 dozen out of either or both of JUCO or the portal.
 

horshack.sixpack

All-American
Oct 30, 2012
12,432
9,951
113
Please don't insert thought, logic, or reason. Joe didn't win the natty in year one, which Dan most certainly would have done if he had stayed. It's settled; Joe sucks.***
 

gwadSIG

Redshirt
Aug 13, 2015
294
0
0
People are upset for a couple reasons
1. I think people are still disappointed from the season and now believe the world is falling and can’t look at any positives.
2. This is the most talent rich this state has produced ranking wise and we didn’t capitalize on OM being down. We only got 5 of the top 20 in the state.
3. While it is the highest rated class we’ve had according to avereage ratings, it’s 7th in the west in overall rankings.

I see both positives and negatives of this recruiting cycle. I think there were for sure some very big gets but there was also a lot we could’ve been better at

4. We didn't sign a full class
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
61,366
33,127
113
We need to have more attrition. You should always cut some of the unproductive players to make room for a full class every year. And if we have 64 players we absolutely can't afford to cut, there's even less excuse for losing 5 games last fall.
 

gwadSIG

Redshirt
Aug 13, 2015
294
0
0
There's actually a lot more to that. Steve covered that theory in his Boneyard. When you look at it, we really haven't had as much attrition on our roster as most teams. And you'r only allowed 85 total players. So we actually only have a couple spots left to fill and we are trying to do that with grad transfers.

Well when you got the CL waiting to press publish, you can't process guys like everyone else...
 

TheStateUofMS

All-Conference
Dec 26, 2009
10,500
2,503
113
I think Paul said we are at 83 right now with Mixon and Roberson counted as off the team, so that's 2 grad transfers if you had zero attrition, so I'm not sure where you're getting up to 6 guys in the transfer portal from.
 

Trojanbulldog19

All-American
Aug 25, 2014
10,160
5,952
113
2 and 3 are some of my reasons for not being 100% happy. I'm happy with the OL and DL prospects we signed. We have some good signees in this class.

My other concerns are with player development. We knew that Mullen could take a two star guy and get 4 star performance out of them. He was good at taking players and developing them. I know it's only one year, but I didn't see much development from this staff over the course of the first season. That concerns me when we finish last in the west in overall recruiting rankings. If you aren't going to develop, you have to out talent.

the last thing is meeting offensive needs. So many on here have said "moorhead just needs to get his players to make this scheme work" Based on what people have said on here, you need offensive lineman that can pass pro and think quickly. you need a qb that can throw, think quickly, make the correct reads, and you need receivers that can go down the field, get separation, and get the 50/50 ball. We supposedly got that qb. we got a few of the offensive lineman. We are still way behind on receiver though.

Too me, if what everyone that backs Moorhead's system says is true, we have to do better at recruiting receiver and get a lot more bodies in at receiver. The receiver is just as important as the running back to this scheme. You can't afford busts in any position in this scheme. Otherwise, the defenses are just going to shut down whatever you do have that works and make you try to use your busted positions. This year was receivers catching and qb throwing. It's still our weakness. Our last scheme allowed us to shield a lot of those issues, but scheming with formations to allow us to run the ball when we couldn't pass as well.

If getting his players for his offense is so important to his scheme, then has to recruit it well.
 

philduckworth

Redshirt
Feb 20, 2015
2,228
0
0
If there’s a #4, it’s that we only used 21 schollies, so it literally is as if we again self-imposed our own penalties

That said, there is plenty to like about this class, and it wasn’t going to have a ton of impact on next season no matter what went down

Exactly, we signed 20 guys then made a signing day offer to get to 21. We signed 5 of the top 20 in our own state. Our new coaches brought 0 recruits with them. Our ex-coaches cost us possibly 3 top players. We didn't close on any undecided player from December except for Emerson. We didn't really improve a badly needed position-WR. I'm excited about Cross, Pickering and a couple of other guys, but there is cause for concern and some degree of angst.
 

coach66

Junior
Mar 5, 2009
12,720
347
83
Folks, we are four touchdowns better than Ole miss and after today we

Are four touchdowns better than Ole Miss. please stop being dip *****, good lawd.
 
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