Q’s last drive

Msubulldogfan1

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It was a step, to a hop step type deal. I can see why it wasn’t called...although by the book it was def a travel.
 

Shmuley

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A European dude watching the game at BWW said, "Damn, he walked."
 

mstateglfr

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Just rewatched.

It was 1 step along the left side of the lane, bounce to the right with a jumpstop into the paint , and then straight towards the left side of the basket to avoid direct contact with the defender.

Totally legal- 2 steps.

It wasn't called because it wasnt an improper move.
 

Drebin

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They should have body checked him and we would be calling him selfish

Did anyone else see his post game interview? "The play was for me and him (Peters) to pass it back and forth but I decided to keep it." I'm paraphrasing but it was something like that.

Helluva play Howland drew up there.
 

muddawgs

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Well not trying to be a dick but with us having to drive it up the court with 10 seconds, almost every team puts the ball into the hands of their best players and let them drive to the basket. Even with enough time to run a play, this is what most teams do in that same situation.
 

tenureplan

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Come on man. It was basically a fast break and what he said was "Peters backed (pulled) out so I took it myself." 10 seconds left to go the full court vs a press. Do we have to see everything as a negative? I feel like we still haven't gotten over the outback bowl yet and it is bleeding over.
 

Len2003

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Did anyone else just watch the post game press conference where he said he shot a 3 in the Ole Miss game at the end because he thought we were down by 3?
 

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I don’t know if Q walked, but the OM player double dribbled twice and walked in a 5 second span last game.
 

Trojanbulldog19

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Walks are probably one of the most missed calls. Happens all the time. Especially on plays like that. Hell in the nba you don’t have to dribble inside the three line on a break away. Granted a lot of those guys can jump a long way and have long strides
 

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Ill speak for myself in that my issues with this team ultimately boil down to me thinking by sec play wed step our game up, perry would grown into our missing link, and we'd get a 3to5 seed in the dance.....only to now realize what i feared is true; we are soft and have no leadership at all and will squeak in as a 7-10seed. Yes we'll make the dance. But an actual run that we havent seen since i was a kid i was really looking forward to. Im still hopeful. But its highly unlikely with this team. Leadership was our issue...and it still is. I doubt that changes in 2 months.
 

anon1787432961

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Just rewatched.

It was 1 step along the left side of the lane, bounce to the right with a jumpstop into the paint , and then straight towards the left side of the basket to avoid direct contact with the defender.

Totally legal- 2 steps.

It wasn't called because it wasnt an improper move.

His left foot skipped on the jump hop. Most refs wouldn't call it and not in the last minute. It was a mostly smooth typical basketball move. 1st half Q prob gets called on that plus the charge.
 

ezsoil

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Walks are probably one of the most missed calls. Happens all the time. Especially on plays like that. Hell in the nba you don’t have to dribble inside the three line on a break away. Granted a lot of those guys can jump a long way and have long strides

what I don't get is how they call the ball fake all the time yet never call the travel most any other time ...
 

Drebin

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Come on man. It was basically a fast break and what he said was "Peters backed (pulled) out so I took it myself." 10 seconds left to go the full court vs a press. Do we have to see everything as a negative? I feel like we still haven't gotten over the outback bowl yet and it is bleeding over.

There's really nothing to be positive about at this point. I don't know what you want me to say. Should we be euphoric because we sleepwalked and barely avoided throwing away a game on our home court against a ****** Florida team, after starting the SEC schedule 0-2 with two bad losses?

We have a low-IQ, low-effort basketball team and a coach who doesn't seem to want to do anything about it. Maybe we will out-athlete other teams enough to make the dance, but the frustration is warranted with the talent we have.
 

mstateglfr

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Walks are probably one of the most missed calls. Happens all the time. Especially on plays like that. Hell in the nba you don’t have to dribble inside the three line on a break away. Granted a lot of those guys can jump a long way and have long strides

dafuq?
Refs call travel constantly in college. Our players get rung up for taking a step before dribbling a lot.

As for the NBA- when you are giannis antetokounmpo and are made up of 85% legs, you dont need to dribble inside the arc and still not travel. The rule is that a player gets 2 steps after gathering the ball. They gather the ball on a step and then have two steps as part of the rule.
I am 6'5 and can complete a layup doing this correctly. Admittedly I cant always gather it at the correct point which screws everything else up. Point is- someone with a 7'5 wingspan(or whatever) can absolutely pick up the dribble before the arc and not travel.

Furthermore, the 2 steps dont need to be going towards the basket and dont even both need to be in the same direction. This is why the eurostep is completely legal. Its also why that ******** Harden and others pull where they take 2 steps backwards to shoot behind the arc is legal. I think that should be eliminated by a simple clarification of the rules which would that another step cant be taken once both feet are on the ground at the same time. So if Harden can somehow step backwards twice while not having 2 feet down, then its a legal move since it meets the rules. That would be extremely difficult to do and would throw most shooters off balance and be slow enough to allow the defense to recover more often.
 

mstateglfr

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His left foot skipped on the jump hop. Most refs wouldn't call it and not in the last minute. It was a mostly smooth typical basketball move. 1st half Q prob gets called on that plus the charge.
Impressive you caught the foot skip/slip on the jump stop. Yes that happened and no I wouldnt say thats travel as a jump stop is effectively planting your pivot foot(in this case Q's right) and you can jump off both feet after establishing the pivot foot.
Agreed that it was a smooth typical basketball move.
 

Go Budaw

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You don’t have to be pumping sunshine out your *** to at least be a little bit positive about us getting a win when we had to have it. And Florida is not a ****** team. If they are, then the SEC as a whole is a ****** league because Florida is better than at least half the teams in it (Ark, Bama, USC, UGA, Vandy, Mizzou, A&M).
 
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josebrown

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You don’t have to be pumping sunshine out your *** to at least be a little bit positive about us getting a win when we had to have it. And Florida is not a ****** team. If they are, then the SEC as a whole is a ****** league because Florida is better than at least half the teams in it (Ark, Bama, USC, UGA, Vandy, Mizzou, A&M).

Do you know where the league is currently ranked among the other conferences? I don't, but I can imagine it's pretty "******". Outside of UT, who do we have that's really worth a "****"?
 

Go Budaw

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Outside of UT, who do we have that's really worth a "****"?

Uh, there are 5 SEC teams currently in the AP Top 25, tied with the Big 10 for 2nd most behind the ACC, who has 7 teams. The Big 12 has just three. The Big East has just two. The PAC 12 has zero. SEC is pretty damn solid as a whole. And 4th out of 32 conferences in conference RPI is also very respectable.
 

patdog

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Not that I don't agree the SEC is a good basketball conference, but I'd guess there are very few sports it's as low as the 4th best conference in the country.
 

T-TownDawgg

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I agree with some of this. Out of concern for our poor little fanbase, I've been thinking.

I honestly think the extreme swings of success and failure in recent years has our fanbase torn into 4 primary groups.

1)The Baseless Sunshine Pumpers who focus any positives, because it's "Their Team".
2) The Irrational Chicken Littles. If you've been a State fan for more than 5 minutes, you cant help but have a little of this DNA in your veins.
3) The Analytical Propaganda Ministry. I sometimes envy this small, tight knit group. They have an uncanny ability to build confidence in our clan by spewing flattering data to fool us into disregarding what we see with our actual eyes.
4) The "That's The Way it Was, And We Liked It" Grouchy Bastards. Regretfully, this is me, most of the time. We have a strong, but quiet lobby. We've seen all the **** behind the curtain. It stinks. We've been blessed to have been humbled by the character building perennial beat downs of the past. But those lessons come with a price; scars that will never fully heal without the soothing balm of a NC.

These individual characterizations change after every game. Results may vary. This post does not necessarily represent the feelings of TTowndawgg or his affiliates.
 

stateu1

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Impressive you caught the foot skip/slip on the jump stop. Yes that happened and no I wouldnt say thats travel as a jump stop is effectively planting your pivot foot(in this case Q's right) and you can jump off both feet after establishing the pivot foot.
Agreed that it was a smooth typical basketball move.

The left foot skipped before the jump stop, therefore making the jump off the stop a travel. Agreed, though, hard to call that.
 

Trojanbulldog19

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i'm not saying it's not called. I'm just saying it happens a lot with no call. I would say it would be the most common thing players do that technically is against the rules. it's just not caught all of the time. kind of like holding in football. it happens all the time, it just gets called 5-10 times a game.
 
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I went and looked at previous Conference RPIs.

currently - 4th
17/18 - 4th
16/17 - 5th
15/16 - 6th
14/15 - 6th
13/14 - 7th
12/13 - 8th
 

EurekaDog

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Travelling is rarely called. Carrying the ball is NEVER called.

There are many players that cannot make moves without carrying the ball.
Heck, some players can't walk the ball up the court without carrying the ball.

Did the NCAA remove that violation from the rule book? If so, disregard my post.
 

dawgatUSM

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Thank you. Peters and Howland both said that peters voluntarily peeled off seeing that Q had his man beat
 

archdog

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Just rewatched.

It was 1 step along the left side of the lane, bounce to the right with a jumpstop into the paint , and then straight towards the left side of the basket to avoid direct contact with the defender.

Totally legal- 2 steps.

It wasn't called because it wasnt an improper move.

And yet somehow, Holman gets called for taking a 1/4 step prior to putting the ball on the court. If you watch every single PG as the ball in inbounded take this step on literally every single possession in every league High school through the NBA.

Note the triple dribble in the previous game. I mean when will the SEC just come out and say they blew it.
 
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