Could be a rough morning for Buckley
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It wouldn’t be a Mississippi State signing day without a couple of last minute flips.
Seriously, I don’t mind one or two signing day flips in crooting- it happens to everyone. I just don’t understand how we never seem to be able to do it to other P5 prospects, but it gets done to us fairly regularly. Constantly playing defense is frustrating.
Seriously, I don’t mind one or two signing day flips in crooting- it happens to everyone. I just don’t understand how we never seem to be able to do it to other P5 prospects, but it gets done to us fairly regularly. Constantly playing defense is frustrating.
Looks like one of them would rather play for Ron Cooper at Arkansas than Buckley. I don't know how many on here remember Cooper, the DC under Sherrill.
If you were old enough to be following MSU football at the time then how could you ever forget Ron Cooper?
The Arkansas recruiting success is a bit strange. Morris is a well connected guy but they’ve got at least two more years until they are even back in a bowl game.
Yeah they are cheating their asses off. He’s a goofy dumb 17 high school coach that’s had 1 winning season in his head coaching career. I’ve heard his speeches multiple times and I can’t take him seriously. He’s in over his head.
If we end up getting Plumlee out this I would call it a win. If we also end up getting Raydar because of this call it a win/win
Our corners just finished the season allowing ZERO touchdown passes under Buckley.
A player’s primary recruiter is assigned to him by region not by position. You know this. Obviously, TBuck has a lot of contact with the CBs, but recruiting is a team effort. Stop putting all of this on him.
You are freaking out like a young child who didn’t get what he wanted for Christmas. You are over here crying over maybe losing some 3 Star players. Save your freak out for something big.
Our secondary play got better this season. Is it a coincidence that shoop coaches there?
McGriff has coached at 3 sec teams and the saints as a position coach. He isn't a DC, but he's a dang good position coach. He's a damn good recruiter too. Were you guys against hiring joe lee Dunn bc he was at OM before us?
Please show me my "freaking out"
Yeah, the defense he fielded the past two year years was incredible. Left them stacked with talent.
Wanting to fire a coach based 2 players holding off their signing until February qualifies as freaking out.
Did anyone notice the improved play of our Cornerbacks this year? T-Buck is paying dividends for MSU.
It’s definitely looking like typical bridesmaid MSU recruiting.
Players like DJ James is what gets me, we’ve shown he’s a priority to us this whole time and he’s been committed for a while now. Then. Saban and whomever shows up at the last second and riles him up.
Players like DJ James is what gets me, we’ve shown he’s a priority to us this whole time and he’s been committed for a while now. Then. Saban and whomever shows up at the last second and riles him up.
Dude if you are seriously advocating the firing of Buckley so we can hire McGriff, I don’t know what to tell you. That’s just idiotic. If you are advocating getting rid of another coach in favor of McGriff, you need to spell out who that is instead of just saying we need to give McGriff a call.
The current staff with Buckley, Hughes, Huff, and Johnson is easily the best recruiting staff we’ve ever had. But you have to remember that only 50% of recruiting is done by the actual coaches. The other 50% is done by other interested parties. We’ve lost a guy who received a BBD from said parties, and a guy who got a late offer from an in-state school with a much more prestigious history than MSU. **** happens. You don’t fire a guy because a couple of things outside of our staff’s control don’t go our way.
The current staff with Buckley, Hughes, Huff, and Johnson is easily the best recruiting staff we’ve ever had. But you have to remember that only 50% of recruiting is done by the actual coaches. The other 50% is done by other interested parties. We’ve lost a guy who received a BBD from said parties, and a guy who got a late offer from an in-state school with a much more prestigious history than MSU. **** happens. You don’t fire a guy because a couple of things outside of our staff’s control don’t go our way.
I think mcgriff would be an upgrade. Perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps you are. Who were the teams pursing Buckley when Mullen left? McGriff has worked for 4 sec teams, Miami, and an nfl team.
I think the difference is their coaches show up with a script A on their pullover and 17 national title trophies in their case.
Arkansas doesn’t have 17 national titles, and they might be taking Greg brooks off our hands, and they did that with a couple recruits last year as well.
FIFY.....1941 doesn’t count.
As for Ron Cooper vs Buckley. TBuck will coach circles around Cooper......BACKWARDS!
They are spouting that early PT, just like Ole Miss. It usually doesn't work with high level recruits, but the fringe 3 star guys like to hear about playing early.
A huge NO on McGriff....unless we hire him, get him to admit he coached his defense to tackle with the intent of injuring/taking out opposing playmakers.....and then FIRE him.
We've had our share in recent history. If you only count cases that are real flips (in that at least one involved party was surprised), not those orchestrated for PR, I'd bet we're more or less in line with other schools of similar prestige and recruiting history.
Ok enlighten me to what a BBD is... because the first thing to come to mind is not something most recruits would want to be given
It’s looking like DJ James, Greg brooks, and Martin Emerson. Basically our 3 top committed corners.
Cory Thomas from Tennessee
Willie Gay and Leo Lewis from OM
Charles Cross from FSU im this year’s class
That’s just off the top of my head.
Willie Gay decommitted from OM in October and committed to us in February, that’s not a flip.
I would count the other 2, and that’s a pretty short list, considering how many flip away from state.
And what does the list of guys look like who have flipped away from us?
Tee Shepherd - ****** player
Kailo Moore - ****** player
Armani Linton - ****** player
CJ Johnson - decent but not elite player from 8 years ago; we had to replace him with some scrub named Bernardrick McKinney
Jonathan Mingo - TBD
Dannis Jackson - TBD
I can’t think of one game changing player of all the flippers who we can really say it sucks that we didn’t get. Not to mention, everyone on that list except Johnson and maybe Shepherd were orchestrated flips from the get-go. They were never really committed to us in the first place. Guys that play that game are always prima donna douche bags who never amount to ****.
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