Having a Playoff this year is Stupid imo

[wtw2400]

The BCS system would have worked this year sending Alabama and Clemson to the National Championship Game. I do not see any arguments from people that think that any team is better than those 2. It is just turning into a debate between #4 vs #5. Which who cares because we are not debating if #4 or #5 is better than #1 which is what the debate should be about.

For those that say UCF or Notre Dame. UCF isn't going into this system so let's move on. Notre Dame struggled with Vanderbilt(Georgia won 41-13), Pittsburgh(Clemson won 42-10 and bonus UCF won 45-14), Ball State(went 4-8 and lost to Indiana 38-10), and USC(lost 14-37 to Texas who Oklahoma just defeated).

Would anyone complain in the BCS era if the Championship game was Alabama vs Clemson? Yes but at the end of the day these are the 2 teams that went undefeated in P5 conferences. And for that, I say the debate for #4 vs #5 is stupid. Because I would take Mississippi State today over Oklahoma or Notre Dame to tell you how big the gap between #2 and #3 is imo.

 

[kired]

A playoff doesn’t determine the best team - it crowns a champion. I’ve never understood the thinking in college football that we have to find the 2 best teams to play for the championship. No other sport does that. Every other sport with a playoff let’s in a lot of teams that obviously have not had as good of a season as the top ranked teams, and sometimes the lower ranked teams win.

We’ve got to accept the CFP for what it is - a way to crown a champion, not determine the best team. And just in my opinion... 4 teams out of 120 or however many there are now, is not enough. But I like it a lot more than the BCS.

 

[mount lefroy]

A playoff doesn’t determine the best team - it crowns a champion. I’ve never understood the thinking in college football that we have to find the 2 best teams to play for the championship. No other sport does that. Every other sport with a playoff let’s in a lot of teams that obviously have not had as good of a season as the top ranked teams, and sometimes the lower ranked teams win.

We’ve got to accept the CFP for what it is - a way to crown a champion, not determine the best team. And just in my opinion... 4 teams out of 120 or however many there are now, is not enough. But I like it a lot more than the BCS.

I see your point, but certainly it is to crown a champion that is from a process that allowed only the top teams to play for it.

The BCS, and the way it was done before were just trophies given by polls made up of sportswriters and coaching staff assistants.

As long as the top two make the playoff, it shouldn’t matter who the next 2, 6 or 14 would be.

It’s when a non top two doesn’t make it. The bcs arguably could cause that.

Were we to have that, Notre Dame would have their argument. Alabama and Clemson are the best two. But Notre Dame needs eliminating before we proceed.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

For the entire run of the BCS, it's proponents would always say "Despite the complaints, the BCS has matched up the right 2 teams every year. The system works."

Then the 4 seed won the Playoff in 2 of the first 4 years.

 

[mount lefroy]

For the entire run of the BCS, it's proponents would always say "Despite the complaints, the BCS has matched up the right 2 teams every year. The system works."

Then the 4 seed won the Playoff in 2 of the first 4 years.

Great point, but it doesnt prove that's wrong. It just went to show that the teams are closer than people think.

 

[kired]

It just went to show that the teams are closer than people think.

That's why I like an expanded playoff if they could ever figure out how to do it. Everyone says a ~15th ranked team wouldn't beat Clemson or Alabama, but almost every year those teams do lose to teams that end up ranked 10 - 20 (or worse)... I mean - Clemson lost to a terrible Syracuse team last year and was ranked #1 going into the playoff.

I like watching great college football. To me, it wouldn't get any better than taking the top 8 or 16 ranked teams and having a playoff to watch in December rather than a bunch of bowl games.

 

[NWADawg]

We’ve got to accept the CFP for what it is - a way to crown a champion, not determine the best team.

I disagree with this. Most think Alabama and Clemson are the best 2 teams. But, since all teams don't play the same schedule in the same order in the same conditions, it's only "think". I like putting the best in together and let the game determine who is best.

I think the SEC teams have an advantage in this because the competition seems to be better. Being good relative to other SEC teams usually means more than being good relative to other conferences.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Great point, but it doesnt prove that's wrong. It just went to show that the teams are closer than people think.

I mean, it doesn't prove it, but if 2 of the first 4 years of the Playoff were won by a 4 seed that really was the best team in the country but would have gotten absolutely no consideration for a slot in the BCS Title Game, it's reasonable to assume that it would have also happened some in the 16-year history of the BCS.

 

[Seinfeld]

Agree on all points, especially the part about everyone seemingly being satisfied with the all-inclusive playoff system for essentially every other league/sport, yet somehow it's different for college football. Also, the problem I have with the whole "let's just make sure the two best teams play" viewpoint is that I don't understand how anyone can be sure that we ever know who the best 2 teams may be after 12-13 games. There's just too much differentiation is the schedules that teams play, and then you also have to consider teams that get a lot better throughout the year even though they may have dropped an early game or two.

To me, if we truly want to have a system that gives the two best teams in the country a shot to play each other, that is all the more reason to expand the playoffs. I think that there are no less than a dozen teams in the Top 25 that would wipe the floor with UCF if given the chance, but the reality is that they current system will likely never give us a chance to find out.

 

[Go Budaw]

A playoff doesn’t determine the best team - it crowns a champion. I’ve never understood the thinking in college football that we have to find the 2 best teams to play for the championship. No other sport does that. Every other sport with a playoff let’s in a lot of teams that obviously have not had as good of a season as the top ranked teams, and sometimes the lower ranked teams win.

We’ve got to accept the CFP for what it is - a way to crown a champion, not determine the best team. And just in my opinion... 4 teams out of 120 or however many there are now, is not enough. But I like it a lot more than the BCS.

17ing exactly. The whole “pick the 4 best / most talented teams” is nonsense. It HAS to be based on merit. That’s the whole point of sports in general. If you’re just trying to pick the best teams based on the infamous eye test, just give Bama the trophy now and don’t even worry about playing any more games.

 

[GloryDawg]

I don't think there has been a play off that didn't include Bama or Clemson.

 

[Apoplectic_Objurgator]

finding the champ is secondary to the money made with two extra games and for that we say thank you

 

[Go Budaw]

I mean, it doesn't prove it, but if 2 of the first 4 years of the Playoff were won by a 4 seed that really was the best team in the country but would have gotten absolutely no consideration for a slot in the BCS Title Game, it's reasonable to assume that it would have also happened some in the 16-year history of the BCS.

Right. And if it was won by the theoretical 4th best team for 50% of the time for the first 4 years, who’s to say it couldn’t be won by the theoretical 5th-8th best team say, once every 10 years or so?

The simple fact is that the power conferences don’t want expansion because they don’t want to cede any power whatsoever to the G5 schools. They have their collective foot on the G5 throat right now. They don’t want a situation like college basketball where a “have-not” school can easily ascend to being a Top 10 program (like Butler, Gonzaga, etc.). Say it expands to 8 and UCF gets in....suddenly UCF has a recruiting pitch that you can win a natty there. Then Miami / UF / FSU have a whole new competitor for Florida players. The whole “dimimishing the importance of the regular season” argument is horse ****. People will still watch the regular season and watch the playoff just like they do now. It will arguably drum up even more viewers.